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wetdogsmellwetdogsmell Members Posts: 319 ✭✭✭✭
When a course says "No outside food or beverages permitted" does that include bringing your own water?



I'm assuming YES... I certainly don't want to drink out of those stanky coolers on the course and the cart service can be spotty some days. I'm just not sure if other folks have brought their own nalgene bottle of water or something similar.



I realize that a simple solution would be just to ASK at the course.... But i'm sitting here at work waiting for the latest snow storm to blow through image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />
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  • LockedLocked Members Posts: 514
    If you bring your own Nalgene or somethign like that and anybody ever questioned you just say you filled it up from the sink in the bathroom... no rule against bringing a container.... I'd be very surprised if anybody ever questioned you for drinking out of a nalgene but I could be wrong.
  • CosmosMpowerCosmosMpower Unregistered Posts: 4,332 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    I think water is OK usually, never been hassled about it. I think they are mostly referring to gatorades, beer, cokes etc.
  • SocratesSocrates How can it be so *&#% hard to make a shoulder turn? WinnipegClubWRX Posts: 9,537 ClubWRX
    They most likely are looking at everthing but water. I would be shocked if they wanted to take a personal bottle of water. Pop or alcohol is more what they are after. As far as food goes, it's not uncommon for people to try and bring food (from burgers to pizza). I've seen many have pizza delivered to specific holes at a certain time.
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  • nfinch10nfinch10 Members Posts: 565 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The guy who ran the resturaunt at the course I worked at told me the main reason for this is liability. If somone gets hammered on the course, then drives home and gets in a wreck, the course could be held liable for overserving the patron. Buy not allowing outside coolers, the course can regulate how much they are serving each patron. The sign is largely related to alcohol, with some thought given to food sales. Any course that wouldn't allow you to bring your own water bottle/fill up your own water bottle is not worth playing imo.
  • wetdogsmellwetdogsmell Members Posts: 319 ✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for the info. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't breaking any HUGE rule where everyone would say "DUDE! It's common sense!" image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> My snowbound brain is still thawing out.
  • Par ForePar Fore Members Posts: 1,294 ✭✭
    edited Apr 17, 2013 #7
    I think the main reason is that the courses mark-up for, especially, alcohol is significantly more than your local corner gas station. If you bring in your own, they miss out on the profit. It's the same reason that movie theaters won't let you bring in outside food or beverage then you have to mortgage your house for a popcorn and drink.
  • RJRJRJRJRJRJ Members Posts: 5,935 ✭✭
    If a course confiscated somebody's water and that person ended up overheating and dying, that course wouldnt be in business too much longer. Thats the reason that just about ANYWHERE will allow you to bring your own water.
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  • Hawkeye77Hawkeye77 Countdown to The Open Championship! IowaClubWRX Posts: 18,393 ClubWRX
    edited Apr 17, 2013 #9
    Some states dramshop laws don't allow liquor license holders to allow folks to bring their own alcohol on the premises.



    Good sense economically not to allow outside beverages of any kind, some very nice courses that have no problem with demand include water in that. The course has water available, it's your issue if you choose not to drink it and keel over.



    I think it's silly, but I don't own a course.



    The course I play at will give you free ice water if you want it, and they don't care if people bring their own water.
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  • SawgrassSawgrass Members Posts: 15,260 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    edited Apr 17, 2013 #10
    I would not play, and would deeply resent, a course that prevented me from bringing water with me. I like to walk, and it's my habit to carry a heavily insulated container filled with ice. I replenish the water in it at water stations on the course, and enjoy the continued ability to use my remaining ice all day. (It's a great container, a big traveling coffee cup I bought at Starbucks -- and ice lasts forever in it.)



    I don't have your aversion to the water suppled on the course, but I've read that you have every reason to be cautious. I respect a businesses right to make money on soda and beer and whatever, but IMO they should stay the heck away from people wanting their own, safe, water.
  • Joey76Joey76 Members Posts: 718
    I wouldnt be playing a course that doesnt let you bring soemthing the body needs during exercise...





    If that rule does cover water I would be gently alerting them that they are opening themselves up for some rather hefty legal bills on a hot day...
  • RJRJRJRJRJRJ Members Posts: 5,935 ✭✭
    Hawkeye77 wrote:


    Some states dramshop laws don't allow liquor license holders to allow folks to bring their own alcohol on the premises.



    Good sense economically not to allow outside beverages of any kind, some very nice courses that have no problem with demand include water in that. The course has water available, it's your issue if you choose not to drink it and keel over.



    I think it's silly, but I don't own a course.




    While that might make sense to you, I would seriously doubt that any half-witted course would want to open themselves up to that type of litigation. So they restrict your supply of water, and then force you to pay $5 a bottle to survive? Free water stations? There wasnt enough of them/they were empty/too far away/unsanitary etc.



    Trust me, there is a reason just about everywhere allows you to bring water with you wherever you go. Even more so for somewhere that regularly has you standing in the hot sun for 4-5 hours at a time.
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  • Hawkeye77Hawkeye77 Countdown to The Open Championship! IowaClubWRX Posts: 18,393 ClubWRX
    Lighten up, I said it's silly.
  • SawgrassSawgrass Members Posts: 15,260 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    The truly ironic thing about this thread is that it was started by "Wet Dog Smell." I demand to know how he got wet, whether he was on the course or not when he got wet, and with whose water.
  • apprenti23apprenti23 ClubWRX Posts: 3,885 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    Par Fore wrote:


    I think the main reason is that the courses mark-up for, especially, alcohol is significantly more than your local corner gas station. If you bring in your own, they miss out on the profit. It's the same reason that movie theaters won't let you bring in outside food or beverage then you have to mortgage your house for a popcorn and drink.




    Main reason is dram shop laws and local liquor licensing. It mostly has to do with liability.



    As for profits- Can't just go to the local liquor store and buy a case of Miller Lite and a bottle o jack and sell em for $4 a can and $7 a drink! Also can't just load up a pop machine every once in awhile and reap the profits! Pay a premium for product due to resale and only from local distributor, pay someone to stock it, pay to keep it cold, pay someone to serve it, and pay someone to throw it out when its empty.



    My guess is if most public golf courses could they would have a vending machine for snacks and a vending machine for pop and that's it!
  • mizunogolf74mizunogolf74 Members Posts: 116
    nfinch10 has it correct. It is a liability issue for the course to have "unregulated" drinking or dining. If the situation came about as nfinch said where someone got in an accident they could say the course overserved and sue. Same thing goes for food sales, someone hands out some sandwiches to the group, Joe gets sick and says he ate a bad burger from the course. May sound stupid but people sue for anything they can. Courses also have the potential to loose their liquor license should something happen due to someone getting hammered off their own alcohol. Lots of golf carts get wrecked every year and more often than not you find a bottle or they admit to having one. Only takes one idiot to ruin a course.

    Water is of no concern to anyone I am aware of.
  • saltcitysaltcity Members Posts: 488 ✭✭✭✭
    edited Apr 17, 2013 #17
    Nicer courses/clubs tend to frown on bringing your own food & drink on the course for all the reasons mentioned above.

    I've also played on muni's where just about anything goes.



    Growing up, learning the game, it's rules and etiquette, I was told that it's poor form to bring your own food & drinks to the course.

    Support your local club or your guests club and buy your drinks and snacks at the course.



    Anyone else taught that?
  • KaysquareKaysquare Puppyluv Members Posts: 2,180 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
    When I play golf on ANY course, I bring my own food for a lunch snack. It consists of a banana, an apple & sometimes a protein bar or almonds....if I could get that at any course I would, but healthy food is usually not readily available. My club provides plenty of ice, water, tea, coffee free so I don't have to worry about bringing water. If I play at another course I'll buy their over-priced bottles of water.
  • BNich0622BNich0622 Members Posts: 4,245 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭


    I think water is OK usually, never been hassled about it. I think they are mostly referring to gatorades, beer, cokes etc.




    I agree here. Bringing your own water bottle you filled up at home is not the intent here I think. Like Cosmo said, its the beer, sodas, gatorades etc. Similar to why you are not allowed to bring your own snacks into a movie theater.
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  • SawgrassSawgrass Members Posts: 15,260 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    Kaysquare wrote:


    When I play golf on ANY course, I bring my own food for a lunch snack. It consists of a banana, an apple & sometimes a protein bar or almonds....if I could get that at any course I would, but healthy food is usually not readily available. My club provides plenty of ice, water, tea, coffee free so I don't have to worry about bringing water. If I play at another course I'll buy their over-priced bottles of water.




    Reading your post reminds me that pro golfers, who we often see on TV eating at the tee while waiting or whatnot, seem to be eating specialized things which I doubt they pick up with a beer at the snack bar. No one is going to take Tiger's sandwich away now, are they?
  • ThrillhouseThrillhouse EVERYTHING'S COMING UP THRILLHOUSE! Members Posts: 11,165 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    saltcity wrote:




    Growing up, learning the game, it's rules and etiquette, I was told that it's poor form to bring your own food & drinks to the course.

    Support your local club or your guests club and buy your drinks and snacks at the course.



    Anyone else taught that?




    If you play a lot of golf and don't want to drink things that are full of sugar or you want to eat healthy snacks it gets a little complicated though. Yes, they have water, but if you want to snack on fresh fruit and vegetables and unsalted nuts you're SOL at most places if you buy food. The best I've seen is a bowl of apples that look like they've been there for a while.



    I get your point, but if they don't provide the quality of food you want to eat what are you supposed to do? Just gorge on soda and hot dogs and candy bars so the course gets supported? I don't think that's a fair demand.



    I figure you're entitled to my green fees, and entitled to demand that no outside alcohol is brought on the course, and you can even make the case that someone shouldn't be allowed to bring chips or candy because you sell those things. But if you don't provide what I want then why can't I bring it with me?
  • wetdogsmellwetdogsmell Members Posts: 319 ✭✭✭✭
    Sawgrass wrote:


    The truly ironic thing about this thread is that it was started by "Wet Dog Smell." I demand to know how he got wet, whether he was on the course or not when he got wet, and with whose water.




    Nice! I have a bad habit of picking up domain names that I think are funny. Been using that one for many years image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />
  • profsmittyprofsmitty Marshals Posts: 2,627 mod
    I am amazed at some of the things I see consumed on the golf course, both in real life and on television. How anyone can eat a hot dog at the turn is absolutely beyond my powers of imagination.



    But to the OPs question, I suspect that unless you haul a 10 gallon barrel of water onto the course, you're probably safe. JMHO
  • WalleyeDaveWalleyeDave Members Posts: 1,414
    My home course has the same policy. I think they just want to stop the goofs that want to bring a cooler of beer on the course. They would rather sell you a $ 6 beer. I don't think they worry about a water bottle or a couple of soda's. Home course doesn't carry Mt. Dew. Told them I would be glad to buy it if they carried it, so they don't mind when I bring 1 or 2 with me.
  • Desert GolfDesert Golf Members Posts: 1,573 ✭✭
    edited Apr 17, 2013 #25
    The Coachella Valley summers (May through September) are extremely hot and I always bring at least 2 bottles of water. I've never been hassled and would never play a course again if they didn't let me pack in water when it is over 110F. Some courses have water stations, but some don't. I can understand courses not wanting people to bring in a 6 pack of Coors Light but only a fool would tell someone in the desert that they can't have their water.
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  • ShiramShiram Members Posts: 861 ✭✭
    I've never been hassled for bringing my own bottle of water. I usually use a squeeze bottle and prefer courses that let me refill it regularly... walking I drink 3-4 bottles a round.



    At my club, they are happy to fill your water bottle at the bar/half-way house and there are coolers every third hole.
  • ThrillhouseThrillhouse EVERYTHING'S COMING UP THRILLHOUSE! Members Posts: 11,165 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭


    My home course has the same policy. I think they just want to stop the goofs that want to bring a cooler of beer on the course. They would rather sell you a $ 6 beer. I don't think they worry about a water bottle or a couple of soda's. Home course doesn't carry Mt. Dew. Told them I would be glad to buy it if they carried it, so they don't mind when I bring 1 or 2 with me.




    The $6 beer isn't only designed to be a money maker, it's also set at that price to try and ensure that people don't over consume.



    It doesn't always work but it's an attempt.
  • GreenieGreenie Members Posts: 3,520 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    I'll bring my own water and snacks for my round. I've found you can't count on a course to have water fill coolers on the course or healthy snacks for sale. I've even ran into situations where the course ran out of bottled water . Most courses I play don't have a beverage cart going around. What I think is funny is the ones that do I never see where you might want something. They come around on hole one or two. When you might want something later, on the front nine or late in your round on the back there are never to be found. So I rely on myself. I use my hydroflask bottles and put Nuun tabs in my water.
  • Ben TangBen Tang Birdie-Bogey Members Posts: 197 ✭✭✭
    Many courses I play at have this "no beverage" policy, but I've never seen it being enforced. I've brought Gatorade, beer, and other drinks right past the starter and they never say anything.
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  • Joey76Joey76 Members Posts: 718
    HAve never understood the beer during a round.... after is great but never enjoyed it throughout hte round
  • Pweb44Pweb44 Members Posts: 1,151
    I think pretty much every course is going to say a flat out No to outside alcohol being allowed for multiple reasons but most will turn a blind eye to things like sports drinks and soda pop while having no real issue with someone bringing a bottle of water. Same goes for food, a simple snack bar or fresh fruit they will not raise a fuss but if you are loading up a cart with bags of snacks or a full course meal then they may have something to say at that point.

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