Pin....where you go sir?
How far are you from christchurch?
How far are you from christchurch?
600 miles and in the other island. Its a 15 hour drive (including the ferry over Cook Strait)
I'm seriously lost.
Well I could be posting a lot of nonsense over the next few days, stuck inside with too much time to think. It was 43C (109.4F) yesterday, 41 today until Friday evening.
I can't do anything like Snead's backswing, been trying but I can't stop my ingrained habits.
I got closer I think by changing the way I think about the first move, usually I turn my shoulders and try different ways of getting the hands going "inside", so a new thought was to "kink the straw", you know if you push a drinking straw in the middle it just suddenly gives way and kinks, so was "kinking" my right side, the right elbow and right hip just give way and go behind, no pulling, no dragging, no pushing, no attempt to turn the shoulders.
A very simple move, and similar to what I think some guys do.
And a bit like a young mate of mine i see often on the practice fairway, hits the ball miles and very well (but can go crooked without warning), I've never been able to understand how he does what he does, but I think this way of doing a "back set" is part of it, its not a "back swing".
That's Part 1.
Part 2 is something I was practicing a while ago and when i look at my mate this is what he does and explains why he has no downswing thoughts (he's only ever had 1 lesson), all he does he says is "hit the ball", which logically means he feels he is on a position where he can just directly hit the ball.
The key to being able to get this position/feel is now to me today this morning and for the next 2 minutes until my butterfly brain descends onto another attractive flower, is....... the position/orientation of the right forearm at the top of the "swing".
If the inside of the right forearm is "facing the ball" the direction back to the ball is very simple and direct, to me this feels like my right elbow is much higher than usual and is quite the opposite to turning the left arm over the right arm (even though that kinda works, it feels awkward and requires downswing manipulations of the body to hit the ball with control).
Maybe this forearm set is just a compensation for my imperfect back swing, i don't really care.
I think the general important thing is that at the top of your swing you have to feel ready and able to directly hit the ball, without having to bump, turn,twiddle and fiddle things first.
Throwing a ball one-handed you instinctively set your right forearm to deliver the ball in the direction you want it to go.
Guys like Rickie Fowler have to sling release because the right forearm is in the wrong place, Tiger and his silly over the top turn is simply trying to get the right forearm facing down at the ball, Nicklaus found the position that suited his back swing (the flying right elbow).
Snead's final up move sets his inside right forearm really on top of the ball so he can come down and the club just naturally goes out left afterwards.
Ray Floyd, A. Quiros, lots of golfers when you look around.
Tired now... methinks methinks too mutt.
Seems to me if you keep the right arm connected (Ed Sullivan show drill) thats where the hands want to go. Am I right? Seems like Ben, Sam, Dufner all have the upper right arm against the side of the body.
I'm seriously lost.
No need to be. Ej is wrong, he can't see past the illusion and Pin doesn't get it either. Some people get confused because they think Jim is saying you should move your arms away in line with mid-line of body. That is not what he is saying at all.
Jim Waldron would most likely ask two questions:
1. Where is Dufner's sternum?
Try and imagine him without a shirt on.
His sternum is facing the camera. There is a 90 degree chest rotation away from his starting position.
2. Where are his right arm and both hands? Are they behind or in front of his chest?
When you can "see" in the depth dimension, it becomes obvious Dufner's hands and right and left arm are all in front of his chest. They aren't behind, not a bit and they are not even at the side of his torso. Just like a waiter holding a tray of food in front of the right side of his chest as he walks through the restaurant.
Wow... Ben got fat and ugly in that picture or did I wander into the Jason Dufner forum?
And I am not wrong. Hogan didn't swing that TSP unathletic nonsense.
No inside takeaway huh? Which was Pin's original point.
But seriously Kiwi, why can't you explain it?
Telling people they can't see past the "illusion" is so cheap and the recourse of those who believe in something without any proof.
Gurus and evangelicals etc. have used this method for thousands of years on vulnerable insecure people looking for something to cure their problems.
God exists! No he doesn't! Yes he does, you just can't see him!
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