Hunt's WITB, Update 4-9-19 (Custom Welded Neck, TaylorMade, Bag Setup Changes, etc) on page 4!

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  • RichieHuntRichieHunt Members Posts: 3,606 ✭✭
    Driver: Callaway Rogue Sub Zero, 9* loft, 45-1/8" Fujikura Speeder 757 Evolution IV shaft (x-stiff)



    3-wood: Callaway Rogue Sub Zero, 13* loft, 43-1/4" Fujikura Speeder 757 Evolution IV shaft (x-stiff)



    2-Hybrid: Titleist 816 H1, 17* loft, 41-1/4" Fujikura Atmos Blue 8H shaft (x-stiff)



    3-Hybrid: Titleist, 816 H2, 19* loft, 40-3/4" Fujikura Atmos Blue 8H shaft (x-stiff)



    4-iron thru P-Wedge: TaylorMade P790, standard lie and loft with Fujikura Pro 115i Tour Spec shaft (x-stiff)



    S-Wedge: Miura K-Grind, 52* loft, 8* bounce, 36-1/8" Fujikura Pro 115i Tour Spec shaft (x-stiff)



    L-Wedge: Edel Digger Grind, 60* loft, 22* bounce, 35-1/4" Fujikura Black MCI wedge shaft



    Putter: Bettinardi Queen Bee #9, 34" loft, 3* loft, 71* lie angle.



  • tatertottatertot Members Posts: 4,302 ✭✭
    22 degrees of bounce? That's insane ... How did you ever test into something like that?
    Driver: Adams Speedline Fast 11, 9°
    Fairway: Adams Fast 10, 15*
    Irons: Ping i200 3 iron, Ping iE1 4-PW
    Wedges: Titleist SM7, 48º; Titleist SM5, 54º & 58º
    Putter: Cleveland Classics Huntington Beach #1, 35"
  • RichieHuntRichieHunt Members Posts: 3,606 ✭✭
    Current thoughts on my WITB:



    The Bag - I bought my Srixon staff bag off Ebay and a couple of the zippers were broke. Plus, it doesn't fit in my hard case and I plan on doing more golf travel as I'm going to see David Orr in a month and then next year I hope to go to Vegas, Myrtle Beach, NY and LA. I really love the Arnold Palmer Invitational driver headcover. It's a real good quality weather. I went with leather headcovers this time as knit headcovers only last about 3 years and they start falling apart.



    Woods -The Evolution IV is an awesome shaft. I really wish they had an 85 gram version for a 3-wood. But it's very smooth butt section with a tip section that is quite stiff. I hit the Rogue SubZero driver a long ways, but I still question if the M3 may be a better fit for forgiveness purposes.





    Hybrids - These are quality hybrids, but I would like to get fitted thru TrueSpec Golf again to find the best fit as I think they spin a little too much for me. The Atmos Blue Hybrid shaft is perfect for me.



    Irons - The big change is to the Fujikura Pro 115 shafts which are awesome. It's time people start considering graphite shafts in irons as the only real advantage that steel gives a player is that it's cheaper.



    Wedges - I've been thinking of adding a 55 or 56 degree wedge for windy days where I'm going to miss more greens and it can be difficult to change trajectories with just a 52 and 60*. I tried out the TaylorMade High-Toe for a while and please punch me in the face the next time I try to find a substitute for the Edel Digger Grind. I just got the new Edel so I have a fresh head and installed the MCI shaft in it. It's really, really freaking good.



    Grips - I tried out the SuperStroke Soft Wraps and really liked them. One of the things I found is that they weigh 66 grams and the Golf Pride Tour Wraps (midsize) weigh in at 58 grams. Usually that would not make a difference to the MOI of the club, but the SuperStroke grips have more weight toward the mouth of the grip and it adds about 20 MOI units to the club. So I have switched between Golf Pride and Superstroke depending on if I need to the move the MOI up or down.



    Putter - I've actually putted well with this putter, but I still have issues on short putts and slow greens. I'm going to see David Orr for a lesson at the end of September and he will fit me for a putter there. It will be interesting to see what I'm fitted for.













    RH
  • RichieHuntRichieHunt Members Posts: 3,606 ✭✭
    tatertot wrote:


    22 degrees of bounce? That's insane ... How did you ever test into something like that?




    Lots of pros have far more bounce on their wedges than what is stamped. Many frequently go to the Tour Vans and either ask for the head to be grinded a certain way or they just get on the grinder and do it themselves.



    When I first moved to Florida, everybody was saying you needed a low bounce wedge, but I found the exact opposite. Too easy to get stuck in the wiry/glue-like bermuda. Either way, I've tried a lot of wedges and nothing compares to the Edel digger grind LW. I can hit virtually any shot I need from it and from the most difficult of lies.











    RH
  • Santiago GolfSantiago Golf I Strive to make you Better Members Posts: 4,974 ✭✭
    did you go to costal?
    Driver: Taylormade M2 '17 10.5*; Accura Tour Z Pink, 85 M5 (285, can get one or two to carry 300+ if needed)
    Fairway: Taylormade Aeroburner TP 15*; Diamana Blueboard 72x (255)

    LOOKING FOR A 7 Wood (probably gunna be 230-235 club)
    Irons: Nike Vapor Pro Combo 4-AW; Aldila VS Proto "By You" 100x
    4-5; 38", 61* lie, 5 iron weight (220, 210) 6-8; 37", 62* lie, 8 iron weight (195, 180, 165) 9-AW; 36", 63* lie (150, 130, 110)

    S Wedge: Scratch 1018 DS 57*; Dynamic Gold S400 Onyx; 35.5", 63.5* lie (85): I HARDLY USE IT IN THE BUNKER
    L Wedge: Maltby Third Wedge (Custom Grind) 62*; Dynamic Gold S400 Onyx; 35", 64* lie: THIS IS MY BUNKER CLUB, HARDLY USE FROM OUTSIDE 40 YARDS!!
    Putter: Scotty Cameron Studio Design #5 MB, YES! Tour Tracey (for practice only)

    Ball: Vice Pro
    Grip: Super Stroke S-Tech Cord (Woods +6 wraps, Irons and wedges +8 wraps)
  • tatertottatertot Members Posts: 4,302 ✭✭
    RichieHunt wrote:

    tatertot wrote:


    22 degrees of bounce? That's insane ... How did you ever test into something like that?




    Lots of pros have far more bounce on their wedges than what is stamped. Many frequently go to the Tour Vans and either ask for the head to be grinded a certain way or they just get on the grinder and do it themselves.



    When I first moved to Florida, everybody was saying you needed a low bounce wedge, but I found the exact opposite. Too easy to get stuck in the wiry/glue-like bermuda. Either way, I've tried a lot of wedges and nothing compares to the Edel digger grind LW. I can hit virtually any shot I need from it and from the most difficult of lies.











    RH




    Knew they did their own grinds, never knew they went that high with their bounces. Interesting.
    Driver: Adams Speedline Fast 11, 9°
    Fairway: Adams Fast 10, 15*
    Irons: Ping i200 3 iron, Ping iE1 4-PW
    Wedges: Titleist SM7, 48º; Titleist SM5, 54º & 58º
    Putter: Cleveland Classics Huntington Beach #1, 35"
  • RichieHuntRichieHunt Members Posts: 3,606 ✭✭
    tatertot wrote:




    Knew they did their own grinds, never knew they went that high with their bounces. Interesting.




    Edel wedges fit golfers by bounce angle. At the time I had a pretty steep attack angle, so they fit me for the Digger Grind. Now my attack angle is not steep at all, but the Digger grind still works well for me.



    Mike Adams was mostly the brain behind the wedge. He had found in his time teaching golfers that they didn't have enough bounce in their wedges. He did a study and found that low handicaps and pros had about 16 degrees of forward shaft lean at impact (I can't remember the length of the shot, I think it was 50 yards). 16* of foward shaft lean and say 8* of bounce doesn't add up and players were compensating so they didn't dig the leading edge into the turf. Thus Edel designed wedges with a lot more bounce. David Edel talks about a 'true bounce equation' in a GolfWRX podcast



    http://www.golfwrx.com/524906/the-gear-dive-david-edel-explains-the-true-bounce-equation-that-no-one-talks-about/



    Mike Adams explained to me in detail what went into the design. Mike used to grind wedges himself for students who he felt didn't have enough bounce. He then wanted to create a fitting system based on bounce with wedges with more bounce. He kinda had the Ping Eye 2 wedge design in mind, but David Edel configured something different to look more like the wedge they have now. Then they brought in James Patrick Harrington (JP Wedges...now with Titleist) and that didn't work out.



    I've tried the 52, 56 and 60 degree wedges. The original heads...I felt the 52 and 56 degree heads were way too heavy. They had the 52 degree (IIRC) at 304 grams, the 56 degree at 306 grams and the 60 degree at 308 grams. Normally 52 degree heads are around 295 -300 grams and the 56* are usually around 300-302 grams. 4 grams of extra head weight can make a lot of difference.



    I think the latest designs have the 52 and 56 degree heads a little lighter. I also heard on the podcast that Edel is probably going to come out with a new line of wedges.



    But as far as the 60* digger grind (it has a channel on the sole), it's easily the best LW I've ever hit. It's not even remotely close. I tried the TaylorMade Hi-Toe which obviously took a lot of ideas from Edel with the scorelines all the way out on the toe and the mini-channel on the sole and I was noticeably worse with the Hi-Toe. And I think the Hi-Toe spins more. The Edel gets a ton of spin, but the High-Toe is probably the highest spinning wedge out on the market. Either way, I am substantially better with the Edel.















    RH
  • RichieHuntRichieHunt Members Posts: 3,606 ✭✭
    A new putter added to the bag after my fitting (and lesson) from David Orr.



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    The practice area for putting is pretty awesome. David had them build a real grass green outside his studio that is about as flat as one can make a real grass green.



    Inside his studio, he has 3D motion capture, SAM Puttlab, PuttView and the TrueSpec fitting studio.



    Flatstick-Academy-1.jpg





    Going into the fitting, I was using a Bettinardi Queen B #9. I would have thought for sure that David would have fit me for a mallet style putter since every other fitter I've ever been to has fitted me for a mallet. This despite my best putting ever came when I was a teenager and it was with a Wilson 8802.



    David gave me the lesson, first. Then he did the fitting while keeping the instruction in mind. The big thing we worked on with my putting stroke?



    Smash Factor.



    Yes, smash factor.



    When we got on the SAM Puttlab, we saw that I was hitting the sweetspot with my Bettinardi. But, my Smash Factor was low and thus I was either leaving putts short and/or making a large backstroke just to get the ball to the hole because the energy transfer was poor.



    Seriously...who has ever heard of a putting instructor talk about energy transfer?



    And what was crazy was that David spotted the Smash Factor issue before going on the SAM Puttlab. He just watched me putt a few times and saw that I was making, what he calls, an 'under-twist' move. I could start to see that move on camera, but only because it was pointed out to me. You really have to have good eyes to see it. And really, you can't catch that move on the SAM Puttlab either.



    The good news is that my aim at address was really good (0.3° or less) on straight putts and left-to-right putts. But on right-to-left putts I aimed DEAD right. Part of the under-twist move is to prevent pulls and it was obvious that I was deathly afraid of hitting pulls on right-to-left breaking putts.



    We used the SAM Puttlab on PuttView...which is AWESOME. Pretty much worth the price of the lesson, alone.







    David has the platform for PuttView which allows him to create a right-to-left putt (up to 4%) or left-to-right putt (up to 4%) in just a matter of seconds. So we could measure on the SAM Puttlab on straight putts or breaking putts. Since I struggled with right-to-left putts, we did a lot of measurement on those.



    We changed quite a few things, but they were fairly easy tweeks. Changed the grip, a very slight and almost unnoticeable change in posture, change in ball position, elevated the wrists at address a little and worked a lot on how my left arm and hand path moves throughout the stroke as well as a change in grip pressure.



    And voila!



    My smash factor completely changed.



    Furthermore, my SAM numbers were getting really good with the putters he tried fitting me for.



    We tried the Toulon Austin which was producing pretty solid numbers. Then we went with the SeeMore which produced some excellent numbers. Then we tried the TaylorMade Soto which produced excellent numbers as well.



    It was a coin flip between the SeeMore and the TaylorMade Soto. David's intuition was that the idea putter for me would probably be something in-between the two...maybe a Bombora type head, flow neck with either 1/2 or no offset and the neck bored into the head somewhere between where the Soto and Seemore necks enter the head.



    We decided that the SeeMore was slightly better than the Soto, although I was aiming the Soto at 0.0 degrees at address. The putter face rotation was better and more in sync with the arc of the stroke. The other thing is that I had issues with too much forward shaft lean at address given my stroke and the SeeMore's RST helps fix that issue.



    The Bettinardi was way too short for me as well. David had me use his Napa putter and he told me that I'll probably hit pulls with it because it was too short for me and sure enough...I hit pulls with it. The same with putters that had too small of a grip.



    After making a few strokes, David told me that I didn't have nearly enough finger pressure in my right middle and index finger and I was not keeping that pressure constant. He could simply see my stroke and tell that was an issue after years of studying 3D motion capture on the putting stroke.



    Flatstick-Academy-2.jpg



    I just don't see any other putting instructor that is nearly as well rounded about putting as David. From stroke mechanics to green reading to fitting to understanding green grass to motor skill acquisition, etc. And I don't know of any other instructor that is in the same galaxy when it comes to understanding the wrists and hands in putting.



    And the big thing is that it's not a 1 size fits all type of deal. David instructed me based off what he felt I do best and naturally. My stroke is naturally more powered by using both arms and hands and I was trying to use my left arm/side and then I tried to use just my right arm/side. Other golfers may be better suited for a different way of putting. But, David has expertise in all of them.



    Now, I may get a custom built putter next year because the curiousity will likely get the best of me as I will wonder if there is something in-between the SeeMore and the Soto that will fit me. But, for now my putting is better and it's nice to see me not miss the same putts and hit the same bad putts, over and over, again.













    RH
  • RichieHuntRichieHunt Members Posts: 3,606 ✭✭
    ***WITB STATE OF THE UNION***




    My fellow golf clubs. It has been a topsy turvy year of golf. With swing changes and putting stroke changes the golfing has been uncertain, but the future remains very bright.



    One of the big changes is the move to private golf with the membership at Orange Tree. The move addresses two major issues with my golf game. The need for serious, competitive golf involved with the Saturday Scratch Game and the club tournaments as well as the course design that does not allow for one of the main weaknesses in my game; you cannot miss left at Orange Tree.



    In that time, we have seen a major turnover in the bag. New woods and irons fitted from True Spec Golf and at the Fujikura headquarters on their ENSO machine. A new Sand Wedge from Miura Golf and a new putter from SeeMore. And the new bag from Sun Mountain with new headcovers. It's certainly been a year of transition.



    I'm very pleased with the shafts.



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  • ebrasmus21ebrasmus21 Serial Shanker Members Posts: 5,175 ✭✭
    That is one **** of a post, lol.



    What shafts are you using now in the irons? Still the Fij 115s?
    G400 LST - TPT proto
    TM M3 - Rogue Silver 110MSI 70S
    21* Fourteen Type 7 Driving Iron - HZRDUS Black 6.5 105g
    4 - PW Mizuno MP 18 MMC - SteelFiber FC115
    50, 54, 60 RC Dual Bite - SteelFiber i125
    Evnroll ER5
    Snell MTB Black
  • RichieHuntRichieHunt Members Posts: 3,606 ✭✭
    ebrasmus21 wrote:


    That is one **** of a post, lol.



    What shafts are you using now in the irons? Still the Fij 115s?




    Yes. They are awesome. Really helped out my shoulder and elbow, too.













    RH
  • BIG STUBIG STU Members Posts: 11,164 ✭✭
    edited Oct 25, 2018 #107
    One of the continuing rotating bags on WRX that I check in to from time to time to see "What the heck has he gotten now?" Seriously very interesting

    BTW Like the CCU bag you posted a few posts ago
    Driver: Homna G1-X Homna stock Regular shaft
    FW Adams Tight Lies 16* Diamana Reg
    Irons 3 thru 9 KZG Kyoei Forged CB 1st generation Swing Science 400 Graphite Senior flex
    PW Cleveland Special 588 45* bent to 47* Stock Cleveland Steel Shaft
    SW Cleveland 588 56* DG Sensicore S-300 ( old dependable)
    Putter- 1997 Scotty Cameron Santa Fe Bulls Eye fluted shaft rusty and lead taped as heck named "Rusty"
    Bag-- Jones Classic non stand
    Founding Father of Outlaw Golf Association member #1---- Play what you want **** the USGA & R&A
    Redneck Hippie Golf When the Tailgate drops the BS Stops
    Vintage
    Toney Penna Model 1 Aldila HM-40
    3&4 woods Macgregor DX Keyhole steel TT R
    Irons 2 thru 9 1954 Hogan Precision TT green or 1980 Macgregor VIP 3 thru PW Hogan Apex #2 shafts " The famous Bastardized Macs"
    PW Hogan White Cameo 50* Hogan Apex Wedge
    SW Macgregor LRA 56* S-400 DJ Special-- Will rotate out when old dependable does not behave
    Putter ( subject to change) Lil David 8802
    Bag Old School Power Bilt orange mini staff
  • BIG STUBIG STU Members Posts: 11,164 ✭✭
    As usual I tuned in to see what you have gotten now--- Never disappointing
    Driver: Homna G1-X Homna stock Regular shaft
    FW Adams Tight Lies 16* Diamana Reg
    Irons 3 thru 9 KZG Kyoei Forged CB 1st generation Swing Science 400 Graphite Senior flex
    PW Cleveland Special 588 45* bent to 47* Stock Cleveland Steel Shaft
    SW Cleveland 588 56* DG Sensicore S-300 ( old dependable)
    Putter- 1997 Scotty Cameron Santa Fe Bulls Eye fluted shaft rusty and lead taped as heck named "Rusty"
    Bag-- Jones Classic non stand
    Founding Father of Outlaw Golf Association member #1---- Play what you want **** the USGA & R&A
    Redneck Hippie Golf When the Tailgate drops the BS Stops
    Vintage
    Toney Penna Model 1 Aldila HM-40
    3&4 woods Macgregor DX Keyhole steel TT R
    Irons 2 thru 9 1954 Hogan Precision TT green or 1980 Macgregor VIP 3 thru PW Hogan Apex #2 shafts " The famous Bastardized Macs"
    PW Hogan White Cameo 50* Hogan Apex Wedge
    SW Macgregor LRA 56* S-400 DJ Special-- Will rotate out when old dependable does not behave
    Putter ( subject to change) Lil David 8802
    Bag Old School Power Bilt orange mini staff
  • RichieHuntRichieHunt Members Posts: 3,606 ✭✭
    Removed the shaft from my Toulon Long Island.



    I've added a stepped shaft. Some posters here have said that stepped putter shaft feels better since the butt diameter is smaller.



    Waiting on a Pure Putter grip to come in the mail.



  • andfriandfri Posts: 198 ✭✭
    edited Feb 22, 2019 8:09am #111
    RichieHunt wrote:




    RH




    Hello Rich,

    I‘m playing since 4 weeks now Evo II 661S in my Driver (SS 104 w/ smooth transition) and Evo I 661 TS in my 3 Wood (SS 98).



    How does the Evo IV compare to II in terms of feel, stability, launch and dispersion for you?



    I‘m looking for a similar Hybrid shaft. Has the ATMOS Blue a similar characteristic and feel then Evo II or Evo IV?



    Thanks, Andreas
  • 24Linc24Linc Members Posts: 23 ✭✭
    Richie



    Wondering if you still have the Wishon 919 driver. If you do, how does it compare to the more recent drivers that you have had?



    Thanks
  • RichieHuntRichieHunt Members Posts: 3,606 ✭✭

    Made a few changes...but, I will start off with the big one....a new putter. And yes, I give my putters a nickname. This one is 'Brother Mouzone.'

    EVNROLL ER1.2, custom welded flowneck, 35-1/2" long stepped shaft, 3* loft, 70* lie angle.




    I had been putting with the Toulon Long Island. It says that it's 2/3 offset, but it looks full shaft offset to me. I was considering a TP Mills as a member at my club is also a Tour rep for Mills. But, I was intrigued by the EVNROLL groove technology. Particularly as I bought my dad the ER1 for his birthday last year. I got to putt with it once and putted very well with it.

    At the PGA Merchandise show, I was happy to see that the ER1.2 looks more like a Dalehead design. The only issue was the plumber's neck. So, I went to Bastain Milled and had them lop off the plumber's neck, weld a 1/2 shaft offset flow neck and then murder out the head with a black cerakote finish. Came in beautifully.

    I then got a stepped shaft (I prefer them for whatever reason) and made it to 35-1/2" long. Put an EVNROLL pistol grip in there.

    The replacement neck dropped the head weight by 10 grams. This made the head feel a little light. So, I put 2 strips of HD lead tape on the sole. That ended up being too heavy. So, I took one strip off and it's rolling like a B-O-S-S.

    Very happy with how this turned out.

    More tomorrow.

    RH

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