Pure745's 2014 Shootout - Update 6/15/14

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UPDATE 6/15/14 - Shootout Winner vs. Actual Fitting



Long story short, I was so impressed for many reasons with Cool Clubs (the final location of the Shootout, mine was done at the Irvine, CA location) that I got my irons fit. The results were so good that I knew I had to get the top of my bag fit. That day finally came, and I am going to talk about the process and the results and post the numbers.



• For those that don't like reading, I'll highlight this for you since it is important to realize the difference between the Shootout and the actual fitting. The Shootout was simply me testing clubs/setups that I put together on my own on a Trackman with ZERO input from the fitter. The fitting was going through Cool Clubs full process as if I had just set an appointment and was looking to buy a driver/3wd. image/cool.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='(cool)' />



Now, the fitter who fit me has seen me hit the ball and at this point had fit me for my irons, so I'm sure he had a good idea what some good options were going to be. Now to the fitting, the part that I was blown away with is gets pretty technical, so bear with me as I try to best explain it.



First was the driver:



Current: SLDR 460 Tour 10.5 set to LOWER @ D1.5 SW - Aldila Rogue (8.1 freq) Slide set to 2 clicks towards DRAW

Fit for: SLDR 460 9.5 set 1 click towards LOWER @ D4.5 SW - Aldila Rogue (8.1 freq) Slide set to NEU



So, I won't bore with all of the drivers and shafts that I hit, but I hit 8 different combos. My SLDR/Rogue as I have said before, has been one of the best drivers I have owned, mainly because it has had the best dispersion. When I was hitting, he noticed a few things, one of them was that this was going to be tough to beat. The main thing he noticed, which I was really impressed with, was that I have a slight miss to the right and my bigger miss is a push-cut, sometimes it gets me in trouble, but usually not too bad. He immediately went to get the 9.5 head and dialed in the setting to what he said would make my miss more neutral and my "block" as I like to call it will not move so much right and if anything I will have a very tight draw. I am happy with anything in the fairway, so at this point I'm all ears. He also said that at my speed, the D1.5 is too light and wouldn't recommend anything under D4. Once he haded me this setup with the Rogue, I hit 4 lasers in a row, after that it seemed as if the rest of the fitting would be a formality. It pretty much was, but he didn't stop trying to dial in a better setup, this is the part I appreciated. He wouldn't stop until we legitimately ruled out all potential options, and after that we rehit both setups to make sure this new setup was verified.



Here are the results:



* Note, the wind during this fitting was swirling and just a little into us hence the variance in carry from the other fitting which was done in less windy conditions.



SLDR 460 Tour 10.5 set to LOWER @ D1.5 SW - Aldila Rogue (8.1 freq) Slide set to 2 clicks towards DRAW



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Fit for: SLDR 460 9.5 set 1 click towards LOWER @ D4.5 SW - Aldila Rogue (8.1 freq) Slide set to NEU

* the spin doubled on this one, so divide the spin in half the average is 2589



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Now for the 3 wood...



The 3 wood is typically a club I hit about 80% of the time off the tee.. but when I do pull it out, it has to go straight. Naturally, I was excited to hear about the SLDR Mini to come out, but I found it to be very draw biased and it spun like crazy. The good thing was that it went straight and was decent off the ground. I love the way it looks at address, especially from the tee.. but distance control was really bad. The SLDR TS was really good and really long, but I wanted something more forgiving.. so, I really went into this not knowing what I would get fit to. I was right. Again, I won't bore you with the setups, but I got fit go the Callaway X2HOT Pro with DI-8X. I was hitting it with the DJ-8X, but was recommended to get the DI-8X to bring the ball down a bit. He was really focusing in on my spin and launch, and most importantly dispersion. Once we had those narrowed down, he really keyed in again on the bias of the clubs and really wanted me in something more fade biased. So, that is what we went with, I couldn't believe how good I was hitting the X2HP, I was hitting everything off the tee since I would be using it more off the tee, but I also stayed in this head for it's versatility from the fairway. Really excited to get this one in the bag, my 3 wood is a very important club.



Current: SLDR Mini 14 - BB-7X (7.5 freq)

Fit to: Callaway X2HOT Pro - DI-8X (7.1 freq)



Here are the numbers.. dropped almost 1k in spin, and picked up 15 yards carry. Most noticeable was the ball flight was much more penetrating and did not balloon. Very excited to get this one out on the course to see if the results carry over.



Current: SLDR Mini 14 - BB-7X (7.5 freq)

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Fit to: Callaway X2HOT Pro - DI-8X (7.1 freq)

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Overview



This picture pretty much sums up what I had hoped to gain from this experience. I really learned a lot about how simple tweaks and extensive knowledge in fitting with a thorough process can yield major results and increased dispersion.



White = Driver (Before)

Pink = Driver (After)

Blue = 3WD (Before)

Green = 3WD (After)



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UPDATE 4/27/14 - Trackman Results and Final Rankings



I'm very excited to wrap up this year's Shootout. Thank you to those who have been following this thread and keeping this thread interesting file://localhost/Users/taihornbeck/Library/Caches/TemporaryItems/msoclip/0/clip_image002.gif For those just seeing this post for the first time, the top of this post is the final wrap up, the original content that got this all started is located at the bottom of this post, you may want to read that first to see how we got to this point. This year has had a lot of exciting new clubs to test, as you might remember the 913 D3 won my Shootout last year for the best overall combination of length and accuracy. This was the driver I took the WRX Oven trip, and it definitely held it's own against the Covert Tour 1.0 which didn't last long in my bag after a little over a month and about 12 rounds in with it. So basically the 913 D3/Tour Spec 7.2x setup was very solid, and then I started tinkering once I wanted to see if I could find a driver with more distance that I could keep just as straight.. and then the part at the bottom of this post happened file://localhost/Users/taihornbeck/Library/Caches/TemporaryItems/msoclip/0/clip_image004.png Right now, my index is floating between just over a 0 and +1, I have been playing a decent amount of competitive matches and tournaments so I feel my index right now is pretty accurate. My home course has a lot of OB and is fairly long, so being accurate off the tee is very important to me, but when I hit one good, I definitely want to be rewarded with the distance.



The process . . .



I have always been a huge advocate of taking setups outdoors and on the golf course and have always put huge value into seeing the actual ball flight over hitting balls into a net and getting numbers. This year's Shootout has definitely shown me the importance of this methodology, if you have the resources available to you. I have been able to hit all setups extensively on the golf course except for the i25 and BBA, but through this years process of going to THREE different locations and taking 80+ swings at each within 4 days, I have a great idea of how these clubs perform outdoors and indoors.



The locations and notes about each experience . . .



Finding a location to provide reliable and accurate data for this was one of the hardest and most time consuming parts of this Shootout. I will list different methods tried just so that you can use this info as a "what to do" or "what not to do" when comparing your own setups.



1st Location: TM Performance Lab - I picked this one because it is a nice facility, uses a Flight Scope and is close to my house. Apparently right before I went in for my scheduled 2.5 hours there, there was a malfunction with the ball washer that literally gashed every ball. Aside from the gashed balls, the location is in the midst of switching from the TM practice balls to Tour Preferred X practice balls to do their fittings. So needless to say, the balls were a huge issue, and hitting gashed balls dead into a steady 15mph wind was less than ideal.



2nd Location: Indoors, new "Super Store" - Since it was so windy the day before and the balls were an issue I thought I would make an exception and go indoors and use a TM Lethal for all clubs so that wind and balls were not an issue. The problem was that the LM used cameras and was not catching accurate spin numbers. The other numbers seem pretty close, but spin was WAY off, every setup was averaging over 3K rpms. Also, I had swing speeds up in the 130+ range.. the problem with indoor ranges is I was in gym clothes swinging as hard as I can because I'm just hitting into a net. This felt more like a cardio workout than a Shootout, needless to say the swings did not feel like my normal on-course swing. Looked at the numbers, saw they were bad.. and at this point was very frustrated and not wanting to continue this file://localhost/Users/taihornbeck/Library/Caches/TemporaryItems/msoclip/0/clip_image006.png



3rd and FINAL LOCATION: Cool Clubs - Irvine - Outdoor Trackman, adequate range balls (brand new), specifically setup for this type of reporting. The final location came highly recommended to me by a few people, and a few that knew of what I was trying to do and saw my frustration and exhaustion in this process. I finally ended up working with Josiah at Cool Clubs in Irvine, CA. This location is further from my house, but my sources were right. This place was beyond top notch, understood what I was doing and provided very professional help during the process. All balls were hit outdoors, off grass, wearing actual golf clothes and shoes I would normally wear file://localhost/Users/taihornbeck/Library/Caches/TemporaryItems/msoclip/0/clip_image008.png This third session was also my best grouping of swings, my SS range was in the 115-119 range the entire time. This is my "on-course" swing, I was not trying to kill the ball or overswing to get really high "long drive" numbers, these were smooth swings trying to hit the ball straight and solid.



The setups . . .



• SLDR 460 Tour (195g head) 10.5˚ set to LOWER - Aldila Rogue, Speeder 661, BB6

• SLDR 430 Tour (191g head) 10.5˚ set to LOWER - Aldila Rogue, Speeder 661, BB6

• Callaway Big Bertha Alpha 9˚ - BB6

• Ping i25 8.5˚ - BB6

• Nike Covert Tour 2.0 8.5˚ - Speeder 661

• Fourteen GelongD CT214 8˚ - Tour Spec 7.2




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SLDR 460 and 430 toe screws:



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The Trackman setup at Cool Clubs . . .



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Brand new range balls



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The data . . . image/partytime2.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':partytime2:' />



This is about as transparent and detailed of any Shootout I have done. Conditions were nice, it just rained out here the previous night so there was a swirling wind. I would say it only affected 2 clubs which were the BBA and Covert tour, which got the benefit of a little downwinde breeze that the other drivers did not have. I won't adjust the numbers based on this, but just thought it needed to be mentioned. Also, for SLDR 430/661 setup, the Trackman doubled the spin number due to a shadow, so the spin average was off and I have recalculated it to be 2576 rpm. As I mentioned before, all of these swings were smooth swings, similar to what I would use on the course with an emphasis on hitting the ball solid and straight vs. swinging 100% to get max long drive #'s image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> With each setup I hit about 5-6 balls to get a good solid sampling of 3 shots to get a realistic average, sometimes it only took 3 swings to get this average and sometimes 5-6. The data reflects the averages of 3 "good" shots with each setup.



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* SLDR 430/661 setup, the Trackman doubled the spin number due to a shadow, so the spin average was off and I have recalculated it to be 2576 rpm

** BBA and Covert Tour were hit with a slight down wind breeze that other drivers did not have

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The results . . .



Trackman Carry



1. SLDR Tour 460 - Aldila Rogue (314.5)

2. Callaway BBA - BB6-X (314)

3. SLDR Tour 460 - Speeder 661 (308.5)

4. SLDR Tour 460 - BB6-X (304.9)

5. Covert Tour 2.0 - Speeder 661 (304.4)

6. SLDR Tour 430 - Aldila Rogue (301.1)

7. SLDR Tour 430 - Speeder 661 (299.5)

8. Ping i25 - BB6-X (297.5)

9. Fourteen GelongD - Tour Spec 7.2 (297)

10. SLDR Tour 430 - BB6-X (288.9)



Trackman Ball Speed



1. SLDR 460 Tour – Rogue (175.6)

2. Big Bertha Alpha – BB6-X (175.1)

3. SLDR 430 Tour - Rogue (174.9)

4. SLDR 460 Tour – Speeder 661 (174.7)

5. SLDR 430 Tour – Speeder 661 (174.5)

6. Ping i25 – BB6-X (174.2)

7. Fourteen GelongD – Tour Spec 7.2 (173.9)

8. SLDR 430 – BB6-X (173)

9. Covert 2.0 Tour – Speeder 661(172.1)

10. SLDR 460 Tour – BB6-X (170.6)



And the WINNER is . . .




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Some final thoughts and comments . . .



SLDR 460/430 -
For me, the 460 head is hands down better than the 430. Smash factor plays a huge part in these comparisons, and some heads you can just hit better more consistently. The 460 is definitely the head for me, not even close. I do LOVE the way the 430 looks, but looks only go so far. The 460 Rogue and 460 661 were just really really good and VERY straight.



Callaway BBA - This club is legit, I can tell by the way the balls come off this club that it was no joke with the BB6 shaft. The club look good at address and sounds nice. This review is more about performance, but the fit and finish of the Callaway leaves something to be desired in my opinion. This club was also very accurate, and long, I would say it was the 3rd most accurate behind the 460 Rogue and the 460 661 setup.



Ping i25 - this was a very nice club, very loud at impact, and looks pretty good. The racing stripes are kind of silly, but can easily be adjusted to (unlike the red of the Covert). Very solid performer overall. Ping fans definitely can dial this thing in to be very long.



Nike Covert Tour 2.0 - The numbers and the slight tail wind definitely made this club look a lot better than it was. The Covert Tour 2.0 was one of the worst performing clubs in this Shootout. It had one of the lowest ball speed outputs and highest spin rates, I saw this across all 3 sessions. The 3rd and final session on Trackman was the BEST I hit it and it still wasn't that great. I'm thinking the Performance model will be better for me than the Tour model, but at this point I'm not sure I want to throw another $500 at an experiment. The red still looks terrible to me and the head being so heavy, I think has a huge effect on the shafts causing the toe to droop at impact and make it very fade biased. I did hit a few that were absolutely killed.. but overall this driver was not as consistent as the SLDR, i25, or BBA.



Fourteen GelongD - not many people will ever see this one in person, but it is one of the best looking heads I tried. Simple, all black, pear shaped with some tech in the face. I think this driver was one that actually did better than the #'s reflected (opposite of the Nike). Very low launch and low spin, and fairly consistent. It wasn't as accurate as the BBA and SLDR, but it maybe one notch below that. If you are looking for a fade biased and really low/low setup (and like JDM stuff) this one is worth a shot.



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Original Post - 2/8/14




I thought I would post another one of these threads to give fellow WRX'ers some insight into some of the club testing experiments I have been doing. I have been posting pictures, information, and feedback across a few different threads and thought it would be easier to have a centralized place to put some of the information. I have done similar threads over the years, last years can be found here: http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/804831-pure745s-2013-shootout-the-oven-setup-added-613/



In previous threads, I did these threads to provided unbiased feedback since all of the testing is done on my own dime to give some opinions that were not influenced by trips of giveaways. 2013 was a big golf year for me for a few reasons.. one reason was that I was lucky enough to be chosen for the Nike Oven WRX trip, the other would be that I joined a Country Club and have played the most golf I have played since I played competitively as a junior. That said, my experience at The Oven and playing as much competitive/tournament golf this year as I have in many years, my game has improved and my tastes in equipment has change (slightly) image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> My index has gotten to a low of +2 this year, and my two low tournament scores are 67 and 69, that said, I still have a full time job, golf is still 1000% a hobby and for pure enjoyment and I can still put up a round in the 80's. I do enjoy playing tournaments and inter-club matches at the club, but I have also been working on my game and my swing more than usual and time where switching equipment too often can hurt you, and times where the only solution is to switch equipment. Anyways, here is some of the tinkering I have been doing - clubs, shafts, etc.. and I'm sure I will update this post a few times throughout 2014. image/drinks.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':drinks:' />



The overall winner of my shootout last year was the 913 D3/FD combo with the Tour Spec 7.2/8.2x. I personally think they just do so many things well and the setup is a great overall performer, not the longest, definitely one of the straightest, and definitely dependable under pressure. This is pretty much what has been going on, and I will put in reviews of the clubs after range sessions and multiple rounds on the course.



Fourteen GelongD 8˚ - this driver is definitely one of the longest and lowest launching/spinning driver I have hit recently. It's a glued hosel and sits very nicely at address, probably just slightly open. This driver was hotmelted so it sounds almost like a Callaway Composite driver, but without hotmelt it has a loud tink sound to it. This driver is a monster, I highly recommend it to anyone looking to add some distance and needs a head that will kill spin and lower launch. This driver good for good was easily 10+ yards longer than my D3, the only downside was it was a little more demanding than I would like and not quite as forgiving and I need it to be on my bad swings.



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SYB 714 15˚ - I have never heard of SYB ever, but SYB is Fourteen's Japanese component brand. I originally hit this at a Fourteen demo day and had one built. I jokingly referred to this for a while as the "mystery 3 wood".. mainly because I was so shocked with how good it was, I didn't want to post it on WRX and then have it be a complete dud for another WRX'er who tried it. After 10+ rounds with it and after letting others hit it, I figured this club was WRX worthy. The 714 is a classic pear shaped, all black head that flat out performs. What initially got my attention was the fact this thing was 10+ yards further than my 913FD from everywhere on the course.. and longer from some spots. The sound is pretty loud and kind of a piercing sound, which is just quiet enough to keep it from being annoying, but loud enough to send a message on good shots image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> If you're not OCD about brands like I tend to be, I highly recommend this club.. if you can get over playing a club you've never heard of and 99.8% of your friends have never heard of, this club will definitely hold it's own against some of the best 3 woods out right now. Thanks for the reminder to post this nochrome image/drinks.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':drinks:' />



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I loved the distance gained with the GelongD, but started wanting something a little more forgiving on my misses but still had the distance the GelongD had. This is where I started messing around with the SLDR 460. I hit a few different shafts in it, but ended up with the AD-BB6x in the driver and AD-BB8x in the 3wd.



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The GD shafts performed exceptionally well for me in the SLDR head. I found the SLDR head to be very sensitive to the right shaft and settings, but once you dialed it in, the performance was exceptional. I like the feel and performance of the GD shafts over the Fuji TS in the SLDR heads, not sure why, just didn't like the TS in the SLDR. In the 913, it was the opposite, I didn't like the GD shafts, and loved the TS line.



• AD-DI: This shaft just keeps showing up.. it's been solid and used by a lot of people, it's a great shaft in the SLDR head, has a mid launch mid/low spin characteristic with the SLDR head.

•AD-MT: This is GD's new offering, for me it was right in between the DI and BB shaft. The coloring is very bright, but it's a solid shaft.

•AD-BB: This was my favorite, I would say it play more of a low/mid launch with low spin. The feeling is also very smooth, a great shaft in this head.



SLDR 460 + 3WD



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After I had the 460 in play and was really comfortable with it, TM announced the SLDR 430. The 430 is one of the drivers I was hoping would be released, here are some pictures:



SLDR 430



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430 on left, 460 on right



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Face depths are very similar, the 430 looks deeper, but I measured the two and they are very close to the same.



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Group shot, including the 3wd and hybrid - very solid setup throughout the SLDR line.



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SLDR Review:



460 - The 460 is really solid club. It is low spin and low launching. I played this head in the 9˚ head set to one click higher. It is a more forgiving than the 430 and puts a really nice flight on the ball when you hit it good. I would say it's a touch higher in launch and spin than the 430. This club is really solid under pressure, it very dependable and a club I would highly recommend. Just make sure to get properly fit for a shaft and make sure to get it outdoors if possible.



430 - The 430 is one of my favorite driver in a long time. It has the "techy" look of the SLDR line, but has a beautiful round/pear shape to it. A shape that I have missed from TM for a few years and it's great to see them come back from all the marketing inspired clubs. This club is defintiely low launching in spinning, I went up to the 10.5˚ head and have it set 2 clicks LOWER to get a more open look. Misses with this club are not as good as the 460 but they are not as terrible as I thought they would be. The upside is the ball flight is better than the 460 and it is noticeable. Distance is better and the club just looks great.. those reasons were enough for it to edge out the 460 for me in the SLDR line.



SLDR 15˚ - The SLDR 3WD was a big surprise. I called in an instant classic on another thread and I think the shape and feel reminds me of an R7TP/R9. The head is very compact, so if you're coming from an RBZ, this head is much smaller and the feel is different. Sound and feel also remind me of the R7TP/R9, muted with a soft tink. This head is also really long and low spinning, when you hit it pure, this thing goes! It's also really good off the turf. The only downside I would say, is that it's probably not going to be as forgiving as some of the other 3 woods TM has been pushing, but the upsides are definitely there.



SLDR Hybrid 21˚ - Long story short, I have been using my 3 iron less and less and have needed a high soft 230-235 yard shot. I kept the 2 iron for off the tee, and dropped the 3iron and put this club in. The SLDR hybrid is super solid, a very high ball flight and visually looks really nice. I am not a big hybrid guy, I usually hook the sh*t out of them, but this one is much more nuetrally biased and I can hit nice high fades with it without too much concern. A great club and a huge surprise for me in how well it fits what I need it to do.



As I mentioned earlier in this post, I went to The Oven. Needless to say, I met some great people behind the brand and have been wanting to put together an all Nike bag. The setup I got from The Oven had some good pieces to it, but overall, a bag I put together was better. One of the key lacking parts were the woods, they were good, just not better than other setups I put together. Needless to say, I was excited for the Covert 2.0's to come out. One of my friends is a Nike Athlete and had them early, I got to hit his side by side with my Oven CT 1.0's and I knew these were going to be better.



Nike Covert Tour 2.0



Covert Tour 2.0 (tour issue, no Covert on the crown):



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Covert 2.0 Performance 3WD (tour issue, no Covert on the crown)



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Face depth, CT2.0 on top, CT1.0 bottom



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I like the all Nike setup, overall it's very solid. The 2.0's are also really good, maiden voyage was okay, the driver needs a new shaft. The Tour Spec is too stout for my driver so I might change up a few things. Possibly Speeder 661/757 combo, but who knows.. I want something lighter and smoother so I don't have to work so hard like I do the TS 7.2/8.2's.



Took a few pictures..



3 woods - SLDR, CT 2.0, VR LTD, CT 1.0



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Drivers - SLDR 430, CT 2.0, VR LTD, CT 1.0



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2/4 UPDATE: After all of the research and reviews I have read on here in addition to my club builder's recommendation, I am pretty excited to try the 661/757 setup out. Hoping for a lighter, smoother, more forgiving setup than the 7.2/8.2x setup. This is my current setup and bag:



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I rotate between this bag and another bag, pictures can be found in my WITB thread here:



http://www.golfwrx.c...-pure745s-witb/



Thanks for reading, hope some of this helps and I will be adding to this as the season progresses! image/butcher.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':butcher:' />



• A few things to tinker with:



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Aldila Rogue! Really excited to try this one out, just not sure which head to put it in.



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  • tommy89tommy89 Members Posts: 2,554 ✭✭
    edited Feb 8, 2014 #2
    Livin' the dream dude. Good info there! You still need to hit an Amp cell pro image/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />
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    Can't wait to hear about the 757. Great review so far. Thanks....
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    Your a monster Pure! Great thread!
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    Wow your life seems like every WRXers dream. Amazing thread thanks for sharing

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    https://forums.golfwrx.com/discussion/530023/ladahls-witb-pxg-callaway-titleist-taylormade-trying-graphite-in-irons-updates-on-last-pag
  • pearls24pearls24 Members Posts: 1,063 ✭✭
    Pure I met your buddy from Fourteen at the PGA Show Demo Day- really nice dude. I hit the FH1000 really well. I think I hit about 20 balls with the 6 iron within 10 ft of each other. Great feeling blades and very easy to hit. I need to hit the 2.0 Tour driver with the right shaft/length cuz the one I hit at the Demo Day was too long and not stiff enough. Really liked the look of it more then I thought I would. But I was very impressed with the Alpha with Kuro Proto shaft. Was hitting bombs with it and thought the head setup really nice. Also hit the 430 SLDR with the AD DI and that felt pretty sweet too.
    Taylormade 2018 M4 with Project X T1100 (65g)
    Taylormade 2016 M2 (Tour Issue) fairway wood with Project X T1100 (75g)
    Callaway Apex Utility- 20* with Aerotech Steelfiber 125X
    Miura 501 Satin (4-PW) with Steelfiber 115x
    Vokey SM7 Black Wedges- 50F, 54S, & 58D with TT DG Black Onyx S400
    Odyssey O Works Black #2M CS
  • swanry30swanry30 Lights Out ClubWRX Posts: 4,532 ✭✭
    The new SPEEDERS are a special shaft and as you pointed out to me they come 47" which screams tip me. If someone just plugs it in and goes without properly being fit (CPM to correct frequency/flex) it's not the same animal. FUJIKURA has done an exceptional job providing a shaft with unsurpassed feel/materials/room (long parallel tip section) for us to dial in!
    TaylorMade | M5 Tour 9*  | Mitsubishi Chemical Tensei CK Pro Orange 70TX
    TaylorMade | M5 14* | Mitsubishi Chemical Tensei CK Pro Orange 90TX
    TaylorMade | P790 UDI 17* | Mitsubishi Chemical Tensei CK Pro White 100TX
    Miura | MC 501 Raw 3-PW | PX 6.5
    Callaway | "Customs" Mack Daddy Forged Slate 54 R grind - 58 R grind | PX 6.5
    Scotty Cameron - MOTO "Encinitas Gallery" Newport 34" 350g
    Bridgestone | Tour B XS

    WITB Link

    instagram | https://www.instagram.com/ryan.swanberg/
  • JaxBeachNoleJaxBeachNole Juicy Members Posts: 4,031
    Nice stuff brah
    M1 HZRDUS Black<br />SLDR 15 TS 8.3<br />X2 Hot 18 Kuro Kage 80<br />i200 3 Modus 130<br />S55 4-PW Modus 130<br />Engage 52 56 S S400<br />Newport 1.5<br />WITB Link
  • proroboprorobo Members Posts: 3,208 ✭✭
    You might be a bigger club ho than KJ Choi! Actually I think you have him beat when taking the fact that he needs his clubs to make a living into consideration. And I'm not sure whether that's a compliment or a sign that you need an intervention!
  • chriswrightstuffchriswrightstuff UKMembers Posts: 386 ✭✭
    Comprehensive and articulate write up, very nice to read image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />
    Taylormade M5 - Tour AD GP 7X black edition
    Taylormade M3 15* - Kai'li 80X
    Titleist 718 AP3 3 - 4, 718 AP2 5-pw, - Project X 6.5
    Vokey SM7 50F, 55M, 60D - Project X 6.0
    Scotty Cameron Studio Stainless Newport

    WITB Link[/font]
  • Nikepro1Nikepro1 Members Posts: 51
    You should add the i25 line to the shoot out tai!!!!
  • MtlJeffMtlJeff MontrealMembers Posts: 28,577 ✭✭
    If you were a lefty i would've robbed you like 5 times by now.



    A lot of useful info in there. Great that you take the time to do it. For me though i need to read like your 2011 shootout LOL, because that's where i'm at with drivers now. Behind the curve baby!
    Cobra F8+ 8.5 w/Matrix Black Tie 80
    Callaway Epic Subzero 14* w/Matrix Black Tie 80
    Callaway Apex 20H w/Diamana D+ 90
    Callaway 2016 Apex Pro 4-PW w/S300
    Callaway MD Forged 52,56 w/S300
    Callaway MD 2.0 60 PM grind w/s300
    Odyssey O-works Red Tank #7
  • AUDufferAUDuffer ClubWRX Posts: 2,929 ClubWRX
    Great writeup as usual, my man! How long before you go back to the Fourteen irons though?!
    10.5° PXG 0811LX Project X HC Evenflow 75X<br />15° PXG 0341 Fujikura 2.0 7X<br />19° PXG 0317 Fujikura Pro 2.0 HB 85S<br />4-6 Mizuno MP-18 MMC Fli-Hi Oban CT-115 S-<br />7-9 Mizuno MP-18 MMC Oban CT-115 S-<br />Artisan Golf 46/50/54/58 Oban CT-115 S-<br />Artisan Golf 0117 x 2 (Night and Day)
  • KPH808KPH808 Participation Trophy ClubWRX Posts: 2,637 ClubWRX
    Great writeup. I had the SLDR 460 with a Fuji VC 7.2x and hated the feel and it did not out perform my 913. Also tried out the Covert 2.0 and it feels 1000x better than the original Covert.
    [font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][font=times new roman,times,serif]Ping G400 LST 8.5* w/ Tensei Pro White 70 TX
    TM '17 M2 15* w/ Kurokage Dual Core 80 TX
    TM P790 UDI 2 w/ KBS Tour 130x
    Titleist 718 CB w/ KBS $ Taper 130x
    Fourteen Raw RM 22 50, 54, 58 w/ KBS 610 Tour Black Nickel
    Scotty Cameron Circle T Futura 6M
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  • rymail00rymail00 Members Posts: 6,705 ✭✭
    Really good write up. I enjoyed reading it.
    rymail00 2018 WITB http://www.golfwrx.c...witb-pic-heavy/

    TM M1 430 8.5* Tour Issue w/ Tensei CK Pro White 70s (with high gloss SLDR finish from Continental Golf)
    Titleist 917 F3 15* D+ 80s
    Titleist 915H 21* D+ 90s
    Titleist 915H 24* D+ 90s
    Titleist AP2 718, 5-50* Steelfiber i95s
    Scratch TD DW 54* 58* KBS HiRev
    Odyssey Metal X Milled 330M (current gamer)

    Ping Scottsdale TR B60
    TP Mills Heritage 349g
    Byron Morgan 006 355g
    Byron Morgan Makers Proof #4/5 solid copper
    C&L CL1 368g
    Scotty Cameron Newport Studio Style
  • Beastmode BrokerBeastmode Broker Canadian AF Members Posts: 6,321 ✭✭
    as always SOLID reviews Pure, thanks for taking the time
    Taylormade M1 440 9.5 | Kuro Kage DC 60 X
    Taylormade M2 15 | RIP Alpha B 70 X
    Callaway XHP 20 | RIP Alpha 85 X
    Mizuno JPX 900T 4-PW | TI DGX100 ssx1
    Callaway MD3 RAW 52S / 56W | DGS300
    Titleist Vokey SM6 RAW 58K | DGS400
    Taylormade Milled Collection Mullen 35"
  • nphamnpham Members Posts: 614 ✭✭
    Great pictures as well. Tons of great content, but the high end photos really sets it apart.



    As everyone else has said, you sir are living the dream!
    Taylormade M1 460 Tour Issue 11.2°(7g hot melt) Kuro Kage TS Proto
    Taylormade M4 Tour Tensei Pro White TX
    Titleist 913 HD D+ X Flex
    Mizuno 900 Tours w/ Nippon 125X's
    Fourteen RM-22 Tour Raw 50.07/54.08/58.12 w/ Masters Edition Nippon 125S
    Scotty Cameron Tour Squareback+
  • bruinmwbruinmw Members Posts: 292 ✭✭
    Appreciate the thread, Tai! Great write up and I look forward to reading your results with the new sticks. Would be cool to meet up one day to check out your sweet bag... One of these days. image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> I picked up a fuji fuel 60s to test out in the CT 2.0. I'm looking forward to getting in a round with it. Also checked out the CT 2.0 3 wood, and it's solid, just as you said. Great sound and feel. Wasn't hitting the stock kk all that well in the store, so it may just need a different shaft if I pick up the 3wd.



    Thanks for always sharing your club testing results...
    Callaway Epic Fuji Atmos Blue Tour Spec 6s
    TM M1 15* Rogue silver 70s
    Callaway Epic 18* Fuji Motore Speeder 8.8s
    TM P770 4-9 Project X LZ 6.0
    Vokey 46f, 50f, 54s, 58
    009 Brushed Black, Studio Select Newport, Betti Studio B Proto
  • apprenti23apprenti23 ClubWRX Posts: 3,885
    Tai-



    Send me that Fourteen in the spring- **** it's snowing again, send it to me in May!
  • NDGolfer13NDGolfer13 Members Posts: 1,283 ✭✭
    Great reviews. But don't you think you should test some quality equipment image/swoon.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':swoon:' />



    Seriously.....very nice.
    Callaway Epic Flash SZ Tensei Pro Orange
    Cobra LTD 4/5 Lowest Setting Tour AD BB 70X
    Srixon F65 5 Wood
    Rogue 2H Proforce V2 (new one)
    Miura MC501/CB2008
    Miura 1957 Y 49
    James Patrick 54/58
    Cameron Newport Flowneck Rebar

    FOR NOW...........
    All Clubs subject to change relative to my last bad round of golf......
  • ghabanosghabanos Members Posts: 357
    Baba Booey!!!
    913 D2 10.5, 913 Fd 15, 913 H 19
    2-4 712U, 5-6 714 CB, 7-PW 714 MB
    Vokey 52 bent to 53 M, 60 M Black Ox
    Putter: SC select newport
    +30 Handicap
    WITB Link
  • ghabanosghabanos Members Posts: 357
    Jealous!!! V nice...
    913 D2 10.5, 913 Fd 15, 913 H 19
    2-4 712U, 5-6 714 CB, 7-PW 714 MB
    Vokey 52 bent to 53 M, 60 M Black Ox
    Putter: SC select newport
    +30 Handicap
    WITB Link
  • bcflyguy1bcflyguy1 Enjoying my coffee... Members Posts: 3,022 ✭✭
    Tai is the one who knocks...



    Great stuff as ever, thanks for sharing!
    Never forget that the luxury of being
    wrong is not enough to make you right.
    WITB Link
  • Pure745Pure745 CPC #15 Members Posts: 11,487 ✭✭
    Thanks for all the comments guys. This is from the other day.. I hit my CT2.0 w/ 661x side by side outdoors with a BBA with ZT. I hit a few good shots with the BBA, but overall I wasn't blown away by it. There has been some discussion back and forth in my WITB thread, figured I would post it here as well. There has been a lot of discussion about this driver and the Gravity Core etc. on here, so I had some pretty high expectations of the BBA before hitting it. I will say it's a nice driver, but I didn't think it was a huge improvement over the RFE. A Callaway savvy member said the Gravity Core can adjust spin between 200-400 RPM, IMHO I don't think that the average golfer would be able to tell a significant difference on the golf course. Again, these were my initial impressions.. I plan to hit it more on the course before I rule this one out.. but initially, not overly impressed.



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    [font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Titleist TS3 8.5 - Fujikura TR7
    Titleist 917F2 15 - Fujikura Speeder 857 Evo2 Proto
    Mizuno 919T - KBS CTL
    Mizuno S18 46/50
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    [font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Vokey 54V/60V
    Scotty Cameron 009 Tool Box


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  • kwooten31kwooten31 Members Posts: 2,093 ✭✭
    Love it! Great write up, everything looks great..
    TM SLDR 11° Fujikura Fuel 60
    TM SLDR 15° MRC Blueboard 73x5ct
    9031DF 20°~23° Altus Black Tie, ADDI 105
    Cally RAZR X Forged 5-AW, PX flighted
    Dynacraft CNC Forged 56°&60°
    Scotty Cameron Cali Monterey
  • Pure745Pure745 CPC #15 Members Posts: 11,487 ✭✭
    AUDuffer wrote:


    Great writeup as usual, my man! How long before you go back to the Fourteen irons though?!




    Thanks man! Not sure, the Fourteens are tough to beat, it's been my main bag for the past few month. I just have been really wanting to put together a legit all Nike bag that I can swap in and out since my trip to the Oven, and have just recently put the all Nike bag in play.. including the Rory putter image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />
    [font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Titleist TS3 8.5 - Fujikura TR7
    Titleist 917F2 15 - Fujikura Speeder 857 Evo2 Proto
    Mizuno 919T - KBS CTL
    Mizuno S18 46/50
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    [font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Vokey 54V/60V
    Scotty Cameron 009 Tool Box


    Instagram: @pure745 https://www.instagram.com/pure745/[/font]
  • SatelliteGuySatelliteGuy Just hit the flippin' ball Members Posts: 4,487
    Tai...



    When you decide to test out equipment do you hit everybody's gear... Or just a select few?



    Will you hit Cobra... Ping.... Titleist...



    Or just your favorites?
    9.5 Opti440 - Fujikura Rombax 5Wo6 X

    Taylormade 17.9 4 wood - NVX (X)
    Adams DHY Hybrid X
    Cobra ACP's 4-PW
    MD2's 52/58
    LowTide FIN #5 Custom
  • TownesTownes Members Posts: 243 ✭✭
    Love it, thanks for keeping us informed. I'd also love to read the 2013 shootout, where can I find it?
    915 D3 8.5
    915F 15
    915HD 17.5
    J15CB 4-PW
    X forged 49, 54, 59
    California Del Mar
  • Pure745Pure745 CPC #15 Members Posts: 11,487 ✭✭
    edited Feb 8, 2014 #30


    Tai...



    When you decide to test out equipment do you hit everybody's gear... Or just a select few?



    Will you hit Cobra... Ping.... Titleist...



    Or just your favorites?




    Typically I only hit clubs I'm genuinely interested in using. I posted my original shootout threads because I was actually buying everything so I can use it on the course to see if I liked it, then I would sell the stuff that didn't make it (including shafts). Mainly started these threads to give my reviews and get input from fellow WRX'ers that didn't read like paid infomercials (look at the 2012 Shootout thread for context) image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />


    Townes wrote:


    Love it, thanks for keeping us informed. I'd also love to read the 2013 shootout, where can I find it?




    http://www.golfwrx.c...etup-added-613/
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    Titleist 917F2 15 - Fujikura Speeder 857 Evo2 Proto
    Mizuno 919T - KBS CTL
    Mizuno S18 46/50
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    [font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Vokey 54V/60V
    Scotty Cameron 009 Tool Box


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  • gongshow!gongshow! Wheelin' & Dealin' Members Posts: 1,017 ✭✭
    Your pictures are awesome, as always! And your review aswell image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />



    Thanks Tai for these sharing.
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    Cobra Bio Cell 14.5° - Diamana 'ahina 70
    Ping G400 19° - Tour 85
    Ping G25 4 - PW
    Ping Glide 50SS - 54SS - 58ES
    Ping Anser Milled[/font]
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