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I hope he comes back soon. I can't wait to see how the rivalry between him and Jordan Speith plays out.
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there is no rivalry...it's golfwrx contrived

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I hope he comes back soon. I can't wait to see how the golfwrx contrived rivalry between him and Jordan Speith plays out.

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[quote name='monkeynaut' timestamp='1392758294' post='8696321']
I hope he comes back soon. I can't wait to see how the rivalry between him and Jordan Speith plays out.
[/quote]

there is no rivalry...it's golfwrx contrived
[/quote]

What Kemau said... Cantlay has a lot of catching up to do before the term "rivalry" starts getting thrown around.

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[quote name='kemau' timestamp='1392760465' post='8696579']
[quote name='monkeynaut' timestamp='1392758294' post='8696321']
I hope he comes back soon. I can't wait to see how the rivalry between him and Jordan Speith plays out.
[/quote]

there is no rivalry...it's golfwrx contrived
[/quote]

What Kemau said... Cantlay has a lot of catching up to do before the term "rivalry" starts getting thrown around.
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and so does spieth....my comment wasn't to take sides and this thread doesn't need to turn into the other one. these 2 haven't done enough to be the standard for young guns

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[quote name='playa' timestamp='1392762911' post='8696877']
[quote name='monkeynaut' timestamp='1392758294' post='8696321']
I hope he comes back soon. I can't wait to see how the rivalry between him and Jordan Speith plays out.
[/quote]
Yeah, watching them duke it out for biggest sunday fade out should be cool.
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Yeah, wtf kinda 20 yr old can't close more than he has? This being in contention every God blessed week yet not winning is so weak!

Where's a playa when you need one??

Oh, right. Couch bound...

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[quote name='kemau' timestamp='1392770189' post='8697709']
[quote name='llamont' timestamp='1392768320' post='8697461']
[quote name='kemau' timestamp='1392760465' post='8696579']
[quote name='monkeynaut' timestamp='1392758294' post='8696321']
I hope he comes back soon. I can't wait to see how the rivalry between him and Jordan Speith plays out.
[/quote]

there is no rivalry...it's golfwrx contrived
[/quote]

What Kemau said... Cantlay has a lot of catching up to do before the term "rivalry" starts getting thrown around.
[/quote]

and so does spieth....my comment wasn't to take sides and this thread doesn't need to turn into the other one. these 2 haven't done enough to be the standard for young guns
[/quote]

I'm not taking sides either but exactly who does JS have to catch up to?

Serious question. Just wondering what your thoughts are...

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[quote name='kemau' timestamp='1392770189' post='8697709']
[quote name='llamont' timestamp='1392768320' post='8697461']
[quote name='kemau' timestamp='1392760465' post='8696579']
[quote name='monkeynaut' timestamp='1392758294' post='8696321']
I hope he comes back soon. I can't wait to see how the rivalry between him and Jordan Speith plays out.
[/quote]

there is no rivalry...it's golfwrx contrived
[/quote]

What Kemau said... Cantlay has a lot of catching up to do before the term "rivalry" starts getting thrown around.
[/quote]

and so does spieth....my comment wasn't to take sides and this thread doesn't need to turn into the other one. these 2 haven't done enough to be the standard for young guns
[/quote]

I'm not taking sides either but exactly who does JS have to catch up to?

Serious question. Just wondering what your thoughts are...
[/quote]

as far as american young guns, my thoughts went to 24 year old harris english with 2 wins....he closes. yes JS puts himself there, and respect due 100 percent, but that's only the first step. no doubt he'll figure it out though

as far as international young guns, it gets ugly imo.....rory, matteo, lowry, ryo, bae, matsuyama just off the top of my head

my opinion aside, golf is in great hands for the next 20-30 years....my popcorn is ready!

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[quote name='kemau' timestamp='1392779433' post='8699019']
[quote name='hogans71' timestamp='1392771555' post='8697889']
[quote name='kemau' timestamp='1392770189' post='8697709']
[quote name='llamont' timestamp='1392768320' post='8697461']
[quote name='kemau' timestamp='1392760465' post='8696579']
[quote name='monkeynaut' timestamp='1392758294' post='8696321']
I hope he comes back soon. I can't wait to see how the rivalry between him and Jordan Speith plays out.
[/quote]

there is no rivalry...it's golfwrx contrived
[/quote]

What Kemau said... Cantlay has a lot of catching up to do before the term "rivalry" starts getting thrown around.
[/quote]

and so does spieth....my comment wasn't to take sides and this thread doesn't need to turn into the other one. these 2 haven't done enough to be the standard for young guns
[/quote]

I'm not taking sides either but exactly who does JS have to catch up to?

Serious question. Just wondering what your thoughts are...
[/quote]

as far as american young guns, my thoughts went to 24 year old harris english with 2 wins....he closes. yes JS puts himself there, and respect due 100 percent, but that's only the first step. no doubt he'll figure it out though

as far as international young guns, it gets ugly imo.....rory, matteo, lowry, ryo, bae, matsuyama just off the top of my head

my opinion aside, golf is in great hands for the next 20-30 years....my popcorn is ready!
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You think Speith won't have another win in four years?
Most of the American "young guns" are half a decade older than him and less consistent.
I can think of one young gun in orange that he's more than equalled.

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[quote name='kemau' timestamp='1392779433' post='8699019']
[quote name='hogans71' timestamp='1392771555' post='8697889']
[quote name='kemau' timestamp='1392770189' post='8697709']
[quote name='llamont' timestamp='1392768320' post='8697461']
[quote name='kemau' timestamp='1392760465' post='8696579']
[quote name='monkeynaut' timestamp='1392758294' post='8696321']
I hope he comes back soon. I can't wait to see how the rivalry between him and Jordan Speith plays out.
[/quote]

there is no rivalry...it's golfwrx contrived
[/quote]

What Kemau said... Cantlay has a lot of catching up to do before the term "rivalry" starts getting thrown around.
[/quote]

and so does spieth....my comment wasn't to take sides and this thread doesn't need to turn into the other one. these 2 haven't done enough to be the standard for young guns
[/quote]

I'm not taking sides either but exactly who does JS have to catch up to?

Serious question. Just wondering what your thoughts are...
[/quote]

as far as american young guns, my thoughts went to 24 year old harris english with 2 wins....he closes. yes JS puts himself there, and respect due 100 percent, but that's only the first step. no doubt he'll figure it out though

as far as international young guns, it gets ugly imo.....rory, matteo, lowry, ryo, bae, matsuyama just off the top of my head

my opinion aside, golf is in great hands for the next 20-30 years....my popcorn is ready!
[/quote]

Hediki Matsuyama 0 2nd place finishes, 4 top 10's, 11 top 25's,14 cuts made, 3 missed cuts, and $1,412,262 in career earnings

Ryo Ishikawa 2 second place finishes, 7 top 10's, 12 top 25's, 40 made cuts, 34 missed cuts and $ 2,325,297 career earnings

Sang Moon Bae 1 win, 1 second place, 4 top 10's, 8 top 25's, 40 made cuts, 20 missed cuts and $3,220,863 in career earnings

Jordan Spieth 1 win, 4 second place finishes, 11 top 10's, 20 top 25's, 28 made cuts, 9 missed cuts, $5,129,075 in career earnings

I can see your argument for Rory and Matteo but nowhere close on Matsuyama, Ishikawa, and Bae. Ishikawa has largely been a "bust", with all his talent he hasn't really proved anything on the PGA Tour. Winning in Japan is one thing, winning on the PGA is very different.

Matsuyama is the closest to him and he has no wins and no runner ups. For Spieth to be at the beginning of his second full year and to accomplish all that outs him well ahead of most. I'd put him above Harris English as well. I'd venture to say Spieth is on of the top 6-7 American golfers. Behind Tiger, Phil, Dustin, Bubba, Zach Johnson, maybe a Dufner and Bradley.

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[quote name='CCUgolfer23' timestamp='1392784961' post='8699691']
Hediki Matsuyama 0 2nd place finishes, 4 top 10's, 11 top 25's,14 cuts made, 3 missed cuts, and $1,412,262 in career earnings

Ryo Ishikawa 2 second place finishes, 7 top 10's, 12 top 25's, 40 made cuts, 34 missed cuts and $ 2,325,297 career earnings

Sang Moon Bae 1 win, 1 second place, 4 top 10's, 8 top 25's, 40 made cuts, 20 missed cuts and $3,220,863 in career earnings

Jordan Spieth 1 win, 4 second place finishes, 11 top 10's, 20 top 25's, 28 made cuts, 9 missed cuts, $5,129,075 in career earnings

I can see your argument for Rory and Matteo but nowhere close on Matsuyama, Ishikawa, and Bae. Ishikawa has largely been a "bust", with all his talent he hasn't really proved anything on the PGA Tour. Winning in Japan is one thing, winning on the PGA is very different.

Matsuyama is the closest to him and he has no wins and no runner ups. For Spieth to be at the beginning of his second full year and to accomplish all that outs him well ahead of most. I'd put him above Harris English as well. I'd venture to say Spieth is on of the top 6-7 American golfers. Behind Tiger, Phil, Dustin, Bubba, Zach Johnson, maybe a Dufner and Bradley.
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great stats however, the PGA Tour isn't the only ballgame in town that counts....spieth has yet to travel globally either. top 6-7 american golfer in a year and a half? not there with you on that but has plenty of time to show

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[quote name='monkeynaut' timestamp='1392784341' post='8699617']
You think Speith won't have another win in four years?
Most of the American "young guns" are half a decade older than him and less consistent.
I can think of one young gun in orange that he's more than equalled.
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once you actually read what i said the comment made was "no doubt he'll figure it out though"....yes he'll win in four years. and so will the others

ryder cup > president's cup

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back on topic.....the only thing i found recent of patrick cantlay is apparently from january although it could've been completed well before that

 

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[quote name='kemau' timestamp='1392808454' post='8700377']
[quote name='CCUgolfer23' timestamp='1392784961' post='8699691']
Hediki Matsuyama 0 2nd place finishes, 4 top 10's, 11 top 25's,14 cuts made, 3 missed cuts, and $1,412,262 in career earnings

Ryo Ishikawa 2 second place finishes, 7 top 10's, 12 top 25's, 40 made cuts, 34 missed cuts and $ 2,325,297 career earnings

Sang Moon Bae 1 win, 1 second place, 4 top 10's, 8 top 25's, 40 made cuts, 20 missed cuts and $3,220,863 in career earnings

Jordan Spieth 1 win, 4 second place finishes, 11 top 10's, 20 top 25's, 28 made cuts, 9 missed cuts, $5,129,075 in career earnings

I can see your argument for Rory and Matteo but nowhere close on Matsuyama, Ishikawa, and Bae. Ishikawa has largely been a "bust", with all his talent he hasn't really proved anything on the PGA Tour. Winning in Japan is one thing, winning on the PGA is very different.

Matsuyama is the closest to him and he has no wins and no runner ups. For Spieth to be at the beginning of his second full year and to accomplish all that outs him well ahead of most. I'd put him above Harris English as well. I'd venture to say Spieth is on of the top 6-7 American golfers. Behind Tiger, Phil, Dustin, Bubba, Zach Johnson, maybe a Dufner and Bradley.
[/quote]

great stats however, the PGA Tour isn't the only ballgame in town that counts....spieth has yet to travel globally either. top 6-7 american golfer in a year and a half? not there with you on that but has plenty of time to show
[/quote]

I'll agree with you that the PGA isn't the only tour that counts. It certainly is the hardest to be consistent in, that was what I was trying to get at. Don't get me wrong Ryo Ishikawa is insanely talented and I do believe he will win on tour but I just don't know when. And as I stated in my first post I thing Matsuyama and Tinglang Guan are going to be the face of Asian golf for the foreseeable future.

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back on topic.....the only thing i found recent of patrick cantlay is apparently from january although it could've been completed well before that

 

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How fitting.. everyone else looks ready to play and he's in his lounging gear.

 

i'm sorry refresh my memory.....why is this kid being dumped on again? he has a back injury. if you haven't had the "pleasure" of such then best to hit pause. he has credentials that are 100% legit, won on the web.com tour, earned his PGA Tour card and awaits the green light. you take a so called golfwrx rivaly to choose sides then proceed to bash. what has he done other than swing a club on the golf course?

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I didn't know about Cantlay's back injury. Thanks for the info, Kemau. I hope he gets better soon. I really enjoyed watching him in the US Am. Cool course didn't hurt.

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I didn't know about Cantlay's back injury. Thanks for the info, Kemau. I hope he gets better soon. I really enjoyed watching him in the US Am. Cool course didn't hurt.
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crazy a guy so young is already dealing with that....his grit and toughness is untouchable as far as i'm concerned

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Mere days after a runner-up finish at the first event of the Web.com Tour Finals, Patrick Cantlay has withdrawn from this week's Chiquita Classic, citing an ailing back.

'I haven’t felt good for a long time,' Cantlay said in a release. 'Ever since I hurt my back at the Colonial. My back never healed and I came back knowing I had to play to try and salvage my season and stay in the top-25.'

Cantlay, a former All-American at UCLA, withdrew from Colonial in May with a back injury and [b]took nearly three months off recovering from a hairline fracture in his L5 vertebrae.[/b]

“I never felt healthy the past couple of weeks,' he said. 'My back was hurting last week, especially coming out of the rough on Sunday. Like I said, I don’t want to blame anything on my back. I just didn’t play well at times and I missed a lot of chances.'

'I’m just going to take it day-to-day right now,' he said. 'I won’t play until I feel confident that I know I won’t hurt it again.”

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I followed Cantlay during his amateur Bruin days and I was really looking forward to his potential shining through on the big stage (the PGA Tour). However, his development is taking extra time. Not that he won't eventually break through but to compare JS and PC right now is almost a joke. JS has risen to the occasion with the best players on the globe several times. PC has yet to be in that position. I'd like to see them both play well. The other guy is Peter Uihlein (Oklahoma State). He went over seas to earn his status and it's been working out for him. Give it a couple of years and the USA will have some raw and ready to perform talent.

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is he dunzo for 2014?
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He's training in Philly under his new physio trainer PLHR. Skips rope for hours on end and runs with a tire tied to his waist.

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Good to know he is on his way to recovery. Hope the back issue is not recurrent.

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Yeah, watching them duke it out for biggest sunday fade out should be cool.
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Spieth's final round numbers are actually pretty good. It's his 3rd round meltdowns that are making Sun more difficult for him.
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Not good enough to get i done on Sunday in a major though.

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