Trackman radiation?

RanchobobRanchobob Seventeen plane swingMembers Posts: 623
Am I the only one who wonders about the long term effects of folks spending hours and hours standing in front of a radar hitting balls?



I realize this may be a staggeringly ignorant concern, but I'm happy to be educated.



I found this link that basically says, "we don't see any risk, but more studies would be desirable." http://www.who.int/peh-emf/publications/facts/fs226/en/



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  • Jc0Jc0 ChicagoMembers Posts: 1,870 ✭✭
    The radiation from a trackman is nothing compared to what you experience everyday. You walk through wifi networks, wireless phones networks, radio wave, stuff coming down from the sun and outer space, and you carry a cell phone in your pocket. Here is a good little info graphic to show how little something like that would actually put off compared to serious sources, http://xkcd.com/radiation/.
  • Krt22Krt22 Members Posts: 6,457 ✭✭
    Not to mention Fukashima radiation on the west coast
  • ovibovib Unregistered Posts: 153
    Yes you are.

    I work for a nuclear reactor designand maintenance company and we have our doses measured every day and we are still far away from any dangerous levels. Same applies to people that actually work on site. Track man will never get close to that so I think you are fine image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />
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  • rbhan12rbhan12 Be the person your dog thinks you are. Members Posts: 4,332
    An old lady tried to tell me her life changed when she removed all wireless related object out of her home. She felt better, health improved, etc. By the way she said she was an artist.



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  • RanchobobRanchobob Seventeen plane swing Members Posts: 623
    Krt22 wrote:


    Not to mention Fukashima radiation on the west coast




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  • TheSphynxTheSphynx “When is the next sloth eyed shootout?” Las VegasMembers Posts: 1,424 ✭✭
    Trackman radiation isn't ionizing. It doesn't have the ability to disrupt electron bonds within a molecule like an xray photon does.



    People should worry about covering their neck (thyroid) when they get a dental xray instead of worrying if a cell phone in your pocket will fry your nut sack.
  • rbhan12rbhan12 Be the person your dog thinks you are. Members Posts: 4,332
    AGBear wrote:


    Trackman radiation isn't ionizing. It doesn't have the ability to disrupt electron bonds within a molecule like an xray photon does.



    People should worry about covering their neck (thyroid) when they get a dental xray instead of worrying if a cell phone in your pocket will fry your nut sack.




    Ah the wonders people learn from science courses
  • TheSphynxTheSphynx “When is the next sloth eyed shootout?” Las VegasMembers Posts: 1,424 ✭✭
    rbhan12 wrote:

    AGBear wrote:


    Trackman radiation isn't ionizing. It doesn't have the ability to disrupt electron bonds within a molecule like an xray photon does.



    People should worry about covering their neck (thyroid) when they get a dental xray instead of worrying if a cell phone in your pocket will fry your nut sack.




    Ah the wonders people learn from science courses




    Yes. Science courses. All that went towards a degree and a career dealing with ionizing radiation.



    Don't make stupid assumptions.
  • MadGolfer76MadGolfer76 Admiration is the state furthest from understanding. Members Posts: 19,891 ✭✭
    I think most folks find themselves much shorter after their first few Trackman sessions, but then the effect seems to normalize.



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    I think most folks find themselves much shorter after their first few Trackman sessions, but then the effect seems to normalize.



    lol




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  • TheSphynxTheSphynx “When is the next sloth eyed shootout?” Las VegasMembers Posts: 1,424 ✭✭
    I've heard rumors that the radiation from golf galaxy simulators causes genetic mutations that turns the average golfer into a 215 yard 7 iron hitting megabeast
  • RanchobobRanchobob Seventeen plane swing Members Posts: 623
    AGBear wrote:


    Trackman radiation isn't ionizing. It doesn't have the ability to disrupt electron bonds within a molecule like an xray photon does.



    People should worry about covering their neck (thyroid) when they get a dental xray instead of worrying if a cell phone in your pocket will fry your nut sack.




    Fortunately I'm snipped, so I set that cell phone on vibrate and stick it as deep into my front pocket as it'll go. image/laugh.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' />



    Thanks, all. Not something I gave any real worry to, but was curious.



    Can you explain ionizing vs non-ionizing radiation? What's different between my dentist zapping me and Trackman zapping me?
  • rbhan12rbhan12 Be the person your dog thinks you are. Members Posts: 4,332
  • rbhan12rbhan12 Be the person your dog thinks you are. Members Posts: 4,332
    Ranchobob wrote:

    AGBear wrote:


    Trackman radiation isn't ionizing. It doesn't have the ability to disrupt electron bonds within a molecule like an xray photon does.



    People should worry about covering their neck (thyroid) when they get a dental xray instead of worrying if a cell phone in your pocket will fry your nut sack.




    Fortunately I'm snipped, so I set that cell phone on vibrate and stick it as deep into my front pocket as it'll go. image/laugh.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' />



    Thanks, all. Not something I gave any real worry to, but was curious.



    Can you explain ionizing vs non-ionizing radiation? What's different between my dentist zapping me and Trackman zapping me?




    So to make it as simple as possible, x-rays are a much higher energy form of light than radar waves. All molecules have something called ionization potential: the energy needed to cause the bonds of a molecule to break. X-rays have the capability to do such a thing, whereas the trackman radar waves are VERY VERY VERY far from doing so. Make sense? If not shoot either myself or AGBear a PM, I'm sure he'd be just as happy as I am to elaborate further.
  • RanchobobRanchobob Seventeen plane swing Members Posts: 623
    Nope, that makes sense. I've got a passing familiarity with the electromagnetic spectrum, just didn't think it through.



    Thanks!
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  • cdndudecdndude Unregistered Posts: 76
    Wear lead lined clothes like they do in the hospital!
  • Ri_RedneckRi_Redneck Leather for Life!! Members Posts: 5,448 ✭✭
    Don't believe these guys, sell your TrackMan to me NOW!!!!!!!!!!



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  • bruinsPATSirishbruinsPATSirish Golf is hard. Members Posts: 6,429
    AGBear wrote:


    Trackman radiation isn't ionizing. It doesn't have the ability to disrupt electron bonds within a molecule like an xray photon does.



    People should worry about covering their neck (thyroid) when they get a dental xray instead of worrying if a cell phone in your pocket will fry your nut sack.




    Congrats I just sucked water up my nose on that one. Thanks for the good laugh!
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  • robertwrobertw Members Posts: 16 ✭✭
    We measured more EMF radiating from our monitors and other every day devices than we did from our Trackman. We were surprised at how low the Trackman reading was.
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  • From_Parts_UnknownFrom_Parts_Unknown Members Posts: 1,801 ✭✭
    So that's why the pros have lead tape on their clubs...
  • grochol17grochol17 Members Posts: 1,284 ✭✭
    rbhan12 wrote:


    Basically you have to get past the visibile light spectrum (into UV and higher frequency) to start worrying about health effects.




    The only exception to this is if the trackman were using microwaves. Even though they are very low energy they cause water molecules to vibrate; if you were standing in front of one for long enough, the vibration of the water molecules in your body would cause you to heat up. In grad school, I had a professor that said he and his friends used to play chicken with the microwave wave guide… they'd each take turns standing in front of it and see who could stay there the longest while they heated up from the inside. Of course, microwaves only hurt you if you stand in front of them long enough to cook yourself. The professor lived until he was about 89, playing tennis twice a week until he died of old age.
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  • rbhan12rbhan12 Be the person your dog thinks you are. Members Posts: 4,332
    grochol17 wrote:

    rbhan12 wrote:


    Basically you have to get past the visibile light spectrum (into UV and higher frequency) to start worrying about health effects.




    The only exception to this is if the trackman were using microwaves. Even though they are very low energy they cause water molecules to vibrate; if you were standing in front of one for long enough, the vibration of the water molecules in your body would cause you to heat up. In grad school, I had a professor that said he and his friends used to play chicken with the microwave wave guide… they'd each take turns standing in front of it and see who could stay there the longest while they heated up from the inside. Of course, microwaves only hurt you if you stand in front of them long enough to cook yourself. The professor lived until he was about 89, playing tennis twice a week until he died of old age.




    Trackman uses radar, so it's radio waves.
  • larrybudlarrybud Members Posts: 11,230 ✭✭
    rbhan12 wrote:


    An old lady tried to tell me her life changed when she removed all wireless related object out of her home. She felt better, health improved, etc. By the way she said she was an artist.




    Of course she did!. No more text messages or e-mails or phone calls!
  • grochol17grochol17 Members Posts: 1,284 ✭✭
    rbhan12 wrote:

    grochol17 wrote:

    rbhan12 wrote:


    Basically you have to get past the visibile light spectrum (into UV and higher frequency) to start worrying about health effects.




    The only exception to this is if the trackman were using microwaves. Even though they are very low energy they cause water molecules to vibrate; if you were standing in front of one for long enough, the vibration of the water molecules in your body would cause you to heat up. In grad school, I had a professor that said he and his friends used to play chicken with the microwave wave guide… they'd each take turns standing in front of it and see who could stay there the longest while they heated up from the inside. Of course, microwaves only hurt you if you stand in front of them long enough to cook yourself. The professor lived until he was about 89, playing tennis twice a week until he died of old age.




    Trackman uses radar, so it's radio waves.




    Microwaves are on the high energy end of the radio wave regime and considered by some people to be the same part of the spectrum. From a NASA website on microwaves:



    "Radar is an acronym for "radio detection and ranging". Radar was developed to detect objects and determine their range (or position) by transmitting short bursts of microwaves."



    But, your point is taken that the trackman people would be smart enough to not use the wavelengths of light that are going to cook their customers. image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />
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  • QEightQEight FinlandMembers Posts: 3,422 ✭✭
    rbhan12 wrote:

    grochol17 wrote:

    rbhan12 wrote:


    Basically you have to get past the visibile light spectrum (into UV and higher frequency) to start worrying about health effects.




    The only exception to this is if the trackman were using microwaves.




    Trackman uses radar, so it's radio waves.




    Trackman uses microwave area of the radio spectrum (10GHz). But the power is very low.
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