Tour Balls..... Dramatic distance loss?

Has anyone else experienced a dramatic distance loss, 2 to 3 clubs, when using a tour level ball ? (ie. Pro V1/V1x, B330s) It got so bad that I actually switched to the Precept Lady IQ+ after reading Monte Scheinblum's article. 90% of the time I'm very happy with this ball, there are just a few courses I play that I can't hold the greens to save my life. The last tour level ball that I was able to hit the distances I knew I was capable of was the TP red.

Can anyone recommend a tour level ball that may be a little longer yet still soft? Wilson FG Tour?

You might lose a hint of distance (if any), but not 2-3 clubs. Something else going on here. To the question - yes, Fg Tour.

There is not that much difference among any current golf balls. Not even close.

You shouldn't lose 2-3 clubs of distance. Maybe a half club or so with the wedges because of the spin but nothing huge. Very little off the driver.

I hit a Chrome vs NXT Tour S, one club more and higher, which I like, flight with the Titleist.

It may not be 100% the ball but I don't doubt the OP's claim. I lose a full club when playing a ProV1 or other 4 piece tour ball as compared to using a 2-piece distance ball. I'm not a hack. My ball striking is consistent. I have played tournament golf. These are my personal results and others may have different experiences.

I doubt it. A low swing speed and something like a B330/Hex Black/older model V1x maybe a club short but no more. The only time you would lose a lot of distance is in really cold weather when the good ammo should be rested in favour of bricks.

I get good distance with the Taylormade tour balls. Like you mentioned though, I did get distance loss with the B330S However it did spin like an emmer effer off the wedge.

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Has anyone else experienced a dramatic distance loss, 2 to 3 clubs, when using a tour level ball ? (ie. Pro V1/V1x, B330s) It got so bad that I actually switched to the Precept Lady IQ+ after reading Monte Scheinblum's article. 90% of the time I'm very happy with this ball, there are just a few courses I play that I can't hold the greens to save my life. The last tour level ball that I was able to hit the distances I knew I was capable of was the TP red.

Can anyone recommend a tour level ball that may be a little longer yet still soft? Wilson FG Tour?
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Haha don't know how you managed to believe this but in pretty sure I saw a chart on here where they took about 20 different ball from urethane to the hardest of hard and there wasn't but like a 4-5 yard difference between the longest and shortest with a driver. Pretty sure it was done on an iron byron

There probably is an optimal compression, construction/dimension, dimple design, etc for a given swing, but there are far too many variables (not to mention the fact that 99% of swings are not consistent enough to be considered a constant) to make that determination.

The Bridgestone B330RX / RXS and Srixon ZStar SL are the lowest overall compression urethane balls on the market so I recommend trying those if you've had better luck with lower compression balls in the past.

No. I find I hit them about the same distance as any other ball, with the exception of the Pro V1x, which I hit a bit farther.

I lost a ton of distance (approx 35yds w/Driver) with a proV1 once and immediately thought of monte's lady precept post. Then I took a closer look at the ball , it was a refurb. Lesson learned : I don't play with found balls anymore .

I hit the Lady IQ+, the ProV1x, the Chrome+, and the Lethal the same distance within the normal margin of swing error.

Get the Wilson Duo

Happens to me. I'm going to play rocks for a while and see how my scores turn out.

The Bridgestone B330-RX is the lowest compression tour ball on the market today. Give it a try.

The new Callaway SR line is supposed to be optimized based on swing speed ranges. You could give the SR2 or SR1 a try, depending upon what you're looking for in a ball.

Never had quite that much distance loss. Is your ball ballooning and just falling out of the sky? I picked up some TP Black LDP and they are a pretty good ball in my opinion for a good price through lost golf balls. You can look at the Q Star from srixon too. They are really soft feel, but less spin than a tour ball. I haven't played the new ones with spin skin, but the old ones are pretty good for bump and run chips and one to two hops and stop on full wedge shots.

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The Bridgestone B330-RX is the lowest compression tour ball on the market today. Give it a try.
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Just picked up a box of these hopefully they work out. I always seem to do better with a lower compression ball.

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Has anyone else experienced a dramatic distance loss, 2 to 3 clubs, when using a tour level ball ? (ie. Pro V1/V1x, B330s) It got so bad that I actually switched to the Precept Lady IQ+ after reading Monte Scheinblum's article. 90% of the time I'm very happy with this ball, there are just a few courses I play that I can't hold the greens to save my life. The last tour level ball that I was able to hit the distances I knew I was capable of was the TP red.

Can anyone recommend a tour level ball that may be a little longer yet still soft? Wilson FG Tour?
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Haha don't know how you managed to believe this but in pretty sure I saw a chart on here where they took about 20 different ball from urethane to the hardest of hard and there wasn't but like a 4-5 yard difference between the longest and shortest with a driver. Pretty sure it was done on an iron byron
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I managed to not believe but find actual proof using a laser range finder and accurately measuring how short they come up. I've been as low as one handicap... Have gone up to a six and as much as I like to think of myself having an iron byron swing I don't, nobody does. Golf isn't a game of charts and machines and that's why almost anything is possible in golf.

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Has anyone else experienced a dramatic distance loss, 2 to 3 clubs, when using a tour level ball ? (ie. Pro V1/V1x, B330s) It got so bad that I actually switched to the Precept Lady IQ+ after reading Monte Scheinblum's article. 90% of the time I'm very happy with this ball, there are just a few courses I play that I can't hold the greens to save my life. The last tour level ball that I was able to hit the distances I knew I was capable of was the TP red.

Can anyone recommend a tour level ball that may be a little longer yet still soft? Wilson FG Tour?
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In the last two weeks I have found just the opposite. For the last two months I have used both the Lady IQ+ and the Supersoft. Love the soft feel. Two weeks ago I went back to the ProV1X. Off the driver I hit the V1x longer and a few times a lot longer. Now with the irons the V1x might be a tad shorter on flush strikes and 1/2 club on mis hits. With the increase in distance and superior short game performance for me, I'm back to the Titleist.

Years ago, when the Pro V's first came out, I tried them-had trouble getting them airborne (90mph sp) - and lost a lot of distance (don't know exactly how much). So quit using "tour balls" - until last fall...Won a 12 pack of '13 Pro V1. Put them into play and, I was surprised, really didn't see any distance loss with irons or driver. Balls I'd used prior to the V1's were lower priced... a Calloway 3 piece, TM 2 piece, etc. I'll play the cheaper balls at the start of this year (if it ever comes) then pull the Pro V's out and give 'em a go. The only thing I don't like about the cheaper balls is their lack of spin around the green so am looking forward to seeing how the V1 performs (just played a couple rounds with them last year and they did stop a little quicker on that 50 yard shot.
How many rounds did you play with the tour balls? Maybe it was an anomaly and your swing was off a bit when u were trying them. Also, if it was cold, as another poster mentioned, you lose distance...more with a tour ball than a good 2 piece.

It's in your mind but thst doesn't mean you shouldn't just change to some other ball. Probably easier and cheaper than changing your mind.

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It's in your mind but thst doesn't mean you shouldn't just change to some other ball. Probably easier and cheaper than changing your mind.
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Quit playing all your current balls right now. Go buy a sleeve of 4 or 5 different balls you've never played before and pick a winner from that and move on.

I'm not joking either, as it has to be in your head, or it's a bad lot of balls. Apologies, I am in the 'no way 2/3 clubs difference' camp and off the top of my head that must be the only way to move forward and get it out of your head.

Ok, so I've rounded up a sleeve of almost every tour ball on the market and found a local shop that rents time on a Trackman by the hour. So, what results are going to be important to consider? (ie. ball speed, launch spin etc.) Is five or six solid strikes enough with each ball? Finally what clubs should I test? I was thinking driver, 4 iron, 8 iron and maybe 58 degree wedge.

Ball speed.

The kind of distance differentials you're reporting don't come from slightly different spin rates or even more slightly different launch angles between ball models. Any ball that travels 30 yards shorter than another ball hit with the same club has a much lower ball speed. No way around it.

I have a relatively low swing speed (90ish) but have not noticed any significant loss in distance with the Prov1X or Lethal when I played them, which I do not normally. I hit the Gamer Tour and RBZ U a good distance, maybe 5 yards longer with the Driver than the pro tour balls. The biggest difference is that I am more likely to be in the rough with the pro balls off the tee thanks to my swing.

No dramatic loss at all. 2-3 clubs? Now that's being dramatic.

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Ok, so I've rounded up a sleeve of almost every tour ball on the market and found a local shop that rents time on a Trackman by the hour. So, what results are going to be important to consider? (ie. ball speed, launch spin etc.) Is five or six solid strikes enough with each ball? Finally what clubs should I test? I was thinking driver, 4 iron, 8 iron and maybe 58 degree wedge.
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For the money you spent on balls, you could have seen a pro to find out what the real problem is. Just saying...

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The Bridgestone B330-RX is the lowest compression tour ball on the market today. Give it a try.
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I think calling it a tour ball is a bit of a stretch. Most Bridgestone staff play the B330/S. I've tried the RX and they were crap, not remotely like a tour ball imo.