RECAP: LIVE Q&A with COBRA GOLF

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  • COBRA PUMA GOLFCOBRA PUMA GOLF Sponsors  234WRX Points: 89Posts: 234 Fairways
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    As a major company in the golf industry, do you think all of the emphasis on hitting it long has cause some of the slow play in today's game?
    We believe that golf is a challenging sport for all levels of players and are consistently striving to make better performing equipment to make the game for fun for all players, whether you are Rickie Fowler or Joe Smith.

    The technical and marketing focus on Loooooooooong is there for 2 reasons: firstly, if you hit it the same direction but longer, it is a benefit to scoring lower = more fun! Secondly, it's what people want and buy. The trade off comes when the golfer has to evaluate straight vs longer in some form. Straight and long is the best, that's why we provide low CG (long) with high inertia (straight), because if you are not Rickie Fowler, you have to deal with and play those miss-hits of yours!

    We believe the pace of play issue is primarily an ego problem, where golfers pick the wrong tees. We suggest you move up a tee until you start having fun and play from there. We agree with the PGA of America and the Play it Forward initiative. - Tom Olsavsky
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  • COBRA PUMA GOLFCOBRA PUMA GOLF Sponsors  234WRX Points: 89Posts: 234 Fairways
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    What were the reasons for choosing tungsten as the material for the weights in the Bio Cell Irons?
    Tungsten, which is a very high density material, gives us the ability to improve the properties of the iron both in CG location and MOI. We use the weights spread far apart for maximum MOI in the longer irons, and centered for the short irons. When you save weight from other locations of the head (like the face and undercut frame, its best to strategically locate the removed weight for better performance. - Tom Olsavsky
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  • tocinotocino Members  2388WRX Points: 150Posts: 2,388 Platinum Tees
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    I love the concept of your amp driver for kids allow a parent a better way to upgrade when their child gets older. Any chance you would do the same for irons and wedges?
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  • dsoto5dsoto5 Dan_D_Shots Members  2WRX Points: 0Posts: 2
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    I currently use some Cleveland wedges with the rotex faces which allow me to put a lot of spin on the ball. Are you guys going to be bringing out a wedge which allows you to really spin the ball?
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  • 3 piece3 piece Members  248WRX Points: 57Posts: 248 Fairways
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    3 piece wrote:


    As a major company in the golf industry, do you think all of the emphasis on hitting it long has cause some of the slow play in today's game?
    We believe that golf is a challenging sport for all levels of players and are consistently striving to make better performing equipment to make the game for fun for all players, whether you are Rickie Fowler or Joe Smith.

    The technical and marketing focus on Loooooooooong is there for 2 reasons: firstly, if you hit it the same direction but longer, it is a benefit to scoring lower = more fun! Secondly, it's what people want and buy. The trade off comes when the golfer has to evaluate straight vs longer in some form. Straight and long is the best, that's why we provide low CG (long) with high inertia (straight), because if you are not Rickie Fowler, you have to deal with and play those miss-hits of yours!

    We believe the pace of play issue is primarily an ego problem, where golfers pick the wrong tees. We suggest you move up a tee until you start having fun and play from there. We agree with the PGA of America and the Play it Forward initiative. - Tom Olsavsky




    Agree totally. Ego's need to be checked in the parking lot.
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  • ThatBigBenThatBigBen Members  30WRX Points: 37Posts: 30 Bunkers
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    If there is going to be a Cobra driving iron made please make a left handed version available. It will go in my bag on release day.
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  • Cal71Cal71 Members  2WRX Points: 0Posts: 2
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    Wanted to give a shout out to Puma Golf for signing Graham DeLaet. Exciting to see this smooth swinging, long hitting Canadian wearing these duds.
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  • gophers79gophers79 Members  141WRX Points: 30Posts: 141 Fairways
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    Thank you guys so much for taking the time to answer questions! Cobra is my preferred driver brand by far!



    I'm really intrigued by the Bio Cell lineup. Once the face on my ZL caves in, I might have to look into it image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />



    Keep up the good work! LOVE that black Bio Cell head.
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  • JEFFERYLEEJEFFERYLEE Members  295WRX Points: 60Posts: 295 Greens
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    i appologize if this has been asked prior but I haven't read through the thread yet-



    Any thoughts of releasing a utility iron like the 712U? Not sure the interest level but i would love to have a utility iron that I could play a graphite hybrid shaft in. From what i've seen the choices are super limited and I don't want to have a shaft shaved down either.





    thanks guys!
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  • GolfingfanaticGolfingfanatic Members  3773WRX Points: 695Handicap: 3.0Posts: 3,773 Titanium Tees
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    We have seen limited releases for the US Masters & US Open. Any chance the other two majors get something similiar?




    Thanks for your interest in the LE's. We think they are a nice way to bring some of the exitement around the Majors to the Cobra brand! While we would like to create additional releases, we still want to ensure that they are in demand by golfers. What do you think golfers would be more excited about? An Open Championship or PGA Championship release? BTW- What country to you live in? -Jose Miraflor


    Thank you for your response.

    I personally think lots of golfers would enjoy an open championship release, due to the heritage of the tournament.I could imagine the history of the open combined with some cobra-freshness could produce a cool club. As it is the only major overseas it would probably be very popular in europe. I'd love to see a dark blue head with red and gold accents. I live in Switzerland
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    Thanks for taking the time to answer our questions Mr. Miraflor.
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  • HipCheckHipCheck Twitter @robmillertime The Right CoastMembers  6306WRX Points: 160Posts: 6,306 Titanium Tees
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    WINNERS



    The winners of the Cobra BiO Cell Drivers are...



    jcorna01

    WVP

    milt



    PMs sent out. Congrats guys and thanks to everyone who submitted a question!
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    Congrats guys!
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  • hhems10hhems10 Members  165WRX Points: 47Posts: 165 Bunkers
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    Congrats on the drivers guys.



    It was a very informative live chat with the Cobra guys. Lots of great questions posted
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  • robengelrobengel golf genius Members  618WRX Points: 40Posts: 618 Golden Tee
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    congrats, and thanks to the Cobra guys for their time on an informative session!
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    Any chance on Puma waterproof jackets with removeable sleeves?
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  • WVPWVP Members  2907WRX Points: 58Posts: 2,907 Titanium Tees
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    Wow. I was pumped about the Bio Cell drivers before and even more so after the Cobra responses in here. Thanks so much Cobra and WRX. Review to come!
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  • miltmilt Members  7WRX Points: 0Posts: 7
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    I'll be excited to test it out when it gets here, thanks guys!
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  • AdamB.AdamB. PUMA/Cobra Fanatic Members  203WRX Points: 30Handicap: 11.0Posts: 203 Fairways
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    Thanks Cobra Puma Golf for taking the time to answer our questions and congrats to the winners, you will not be disappointed in the BIO Cell Driver!!
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  • robengelrobengel golf genius Members  618WRX Points: 40Posts: 618 Golden Tee
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    4 posts and win a driver, lucky
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  • BewareTheGlowballBewareTheGlowball Members  597WRX Points: 75Posts: 597 Golden Tee
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    I have loved the look of all the custom offerings you have been offering. The problem is I could never justify buying one because I would hope the shaft that came with it would be at least possibly useful for me. Any chance we might see an x-flex in the major themed, or player themed editions sometime in the near future? I mean I know that I might end up tinkering with the shaft anyway, but the color schemes on the themed club shafts is for the most part gorgeous.
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  • jcorna01jcorna01 Members  693WRX Points: 103Posts: 693 Golden Tee
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    Thanks a ton to WRX for hosting the Q&A and Cobra for taking the time to answer our questions. I really appreciate it and I am really looking forward to playing the driver.
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  • coregolfer0622coregolfer0622 Members  2WRX Points: 0Handicap: +2Posts: 2
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    NTKT10 wrote:


    Cobra is advertising Bio-Cell design and the Venollum crown as weight saving technologies designed to allow more weight to be located low and back for increased MOI. Why did Cobra opt for a low and back CG and not low and forward like some competitors?



    Also is there any chance of a limited release of solid color heads? I like the colors, but I'm just not a fan of the two tone look.


    We are trying to appeal to the widest range of golfers by providing maximum distance with forgiveness. Players who have miss hits (pretty much every golfer who isn't on tour) need forgiveness to go along with the best trajectory for maximum distance.



    Low CG is very good for maximizing distance by reducing spin. We spend a lot of engineering energy lowering the CG of the entire structure, above and beyond what our competitors do. (E9, redesigned MyFly hosel, BiO cell weighting)



    Forward CG positions, however, are hard to hit and not forgiving on miss hits. This is because the act of moving the CG forward greatly reduces club MOI. This fact, in addition to the request for more forgiveness from our tour players Ricky Fowler, Jonas Blixt, Lexi Thompson, Ian Poulter, and Greg Norman lead us to engineer clubs with low and BACK CG positions. We achieve the same low spin trajectories as competitors, but retain much more speed and direction due to the higher club MOI....the best of both worlds!



    Here is a chart showing this with vs some of our older drivers and most of the competitive drivers. There is a good representation of:

    1) all Titanium, no-adjustability

    2) early generation adjustable weights

    3) new low & forward CG designs

    4) higher MOI yet low adjustability heads

    5) BiO Cell and BiO Cell+ with the best combination of low CG and higher MOI for distance and forgiveness



    Bottom line.... We are amongst the lowest and in the mid to high range on MOI which is where most of the market needs are.




    This makes complete sense. I was wondering why at the last demo day, as I was hitting some of the competitor drivers I did not hit as straight when I would have a toe hit. (my nemesis) When I came to the Bio cell it was a world of difference. The club head just felt so stable through impact. It looks like Cobra is not forgetting who their market is and offering a great feeling, very forgiving,and maximum distance premium driver. Thank you for the walk through on the technology of why Low and Forward CG might not be the best option for most golfers.
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  • coregolfer0622coregolfer0622 Members  2WRX Points: 0Handicap: +2Posts: 2
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    We are trying to appeal to the widest range of golfers by providing maximum distance with forgiveness. Players who have miss hits (pretty much every golfer who isn't on tour) need forgiveness to go along with the best trajectory for maximum distance.



    Low CG is very good for maximizing distance by reducing spin. We spend a lot of engineering energy lowering the CG of the entire structure, above and beyond what our competitors do. (E9, redesigned MyFly hosel, BiO cell weighting)



    Forward CG positions, however, are hard to hit and not forgiving on miss hits. This is because the act of moving the CG forward greatly reduces club MOI. This fact, in addition to the request for more forgiveness from our tour players Ricky Fowler, Jonas Blixt, Lexi Thompson, Ian Poulter, and Greg Norman lead us to engineer clubs with low and BACK CG positions. We achieve the same low spin trajectories as competitors, but retain much more speed and direction due to the higher club MOI....the best of both worlds!



    Here is a chart showing this with vs some of our older drivers and most of the competitive drivers. There is a good representation of:

    1) all Titanium, no-adjustability

    2) early generation adjustable weights

    3) new low & forward CG designs

    4) higher MOI yet low adjustability heads

    5) BiO Cell and BiO Cell+ with the best combination of low CG and higher MOI for distance and forgiveness



    Bottom line.... We are amongst the lowest and in the mid to high range on MOI which is where most of the market needs are.

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    This makes complete sense. I was wondering why, when hitting competitors drivers I was struggling on the miss hits. My nemesis is the toe shot and some of the other drivers I hit, the club face did not feel stable at all through impact. When I came to the bio cell I was pleasantly surprised at how stable the head felt through impact. Im glad cobra is designing on the masses, with the bio cell you get a very forgiving driver, maximum distance, and great performance. You can't go wrong. Thank you for the walk through on the technology behind your center of gravity position and why low and forward might not be the best option for everyone.
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