Counterfeit Graphite Design Tour AD DI Series

[Tzoid]

I recently purchased a used Graphite Design Tour AD DI 6S shaft and it played ridiculously weak so I had it checked out and it was measured at 248 CPM. I contacted

Pro's Choice Golf Shafts and Bill McPherson provided me the attached photos to identify the fake shafts. Be sure to verify you are buying the genuine article. The DI6-S is 265 cpm at 46” with a 201g head weight.

and they are all serialized. The counterfeit shaft I bought had no serial number.

 

[goondawg]

The older DI shafts do not have the etched serial or AD logo like you have pictured in the first photo. The overlap and holograms in the white heat label are the best indicators of being genuine in the older DI shafts.

[artica]

Was just talking to joey2aces about my ad di.. The only difference is mine plays very stiff. Here are some photos of it, if anyone can tell if legit or not please let me know.

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[artica]

Here is a different shaft bought from same place though, where grip is on the other this one has a serial #.

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[horty1388]

[quote name='artica' timestamp='1418525279' post='10590191']
Here is a different shaft bought from same place though, where grip is on the other this one has a serial #.

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You're good

[goondawg]

Both look good. Do you see the line running down the middle of the white section through where it says "Tour AD DI-6"? It looks like it is there in your second pic. That is where the label overlaps. The fakes don't have that. The white part is not painted. Its just a heat label

[artica]

Phew... Thanks guys.

[Tzoid]

The price that these shafts demand it pays to check before you buy. I lucked out and the seller refunded my money so I'm good.

[golfer75]

op, the comparison pic that you posted with "real shaft" looks fake to me. the ACCURACY & DISTANCE look way too big. if you look at the pics posted by artica, which looks exactly like mine and i know are legit, the ACCURACY & DISTANCE is a little smaller with more orange space above and below.

[Golfrnut]

[quote name='golfer75' timestamp='1418528318' post='10590363']
op, the comparison pic that you posted with "real shaft" looks fake to me. the ACCURACY & DISTANCE look way too big. if you look at the pics posted by artica, which looks exactly like mine and i know are legit, the ACCURACY & DISTANCE is a little smaller with more orange space above and below.
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I actually agree with this.

Unless there is possibly different versions out there, it looks like the "real" and "fake" labels are backwards.

[Tzoid]

The photos I posted came from Bill McPherson at Pro's Choice Golf Shafts the North American distributor for Graphite Design. He sent the photos to me to
help me identify if my shaft was a counterfeit. I'm just passing along the information so others don't get dupped.

I see what you're saying but I posted the photo he sent me. I think the key is the serial #

http://www.proschoicegolfshafts.com/

[goondawg]

[quote name='Tzoid' timestamp='1418529282' post='10590421']
I think the key is the serial #

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If they all had serial numbers you would be right but they don't

[golfer75]

[quote name='Tzoid' timestamp='1418529282' post='10590421']
The photos I posted came from Bill McPherson at Pro's Choice Golf Shafts the North American distributor for Graphite Design. He sent the photos to me to
help me identify if my shaft was a counterfeit. I'm just passing along the information so others don't get dupped.

I see what you're saying but I posted the photo he sent me. I think the key is the serial #

[url="http://www.proschoicegolfshafts.com/"]http://www.proschoicegolfshafts.com/[/url]
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yeah, i think he probably just mixed them up...because if you look at the tour ad di pic on the site it is exactly like i stated. anyways it good news that you were able to get a refund.

[prorobo]

[quote name='artica' timestamp='1418525279' post='10590191']
Here is a different shaft bought from same place though, where grip is on the other this one has a serial #.

[attachment=2534103:ImageUploadedByGolfWRX Mobile1418525263.754474.jpg]
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I'd be upset with whomever is responsible for those razor blade gouges from grip changing!

[artica]

[quote name='prorobo' timestamp='1418531438' post='10590525'][quote name='artica' timestamp='1418525279' post='10590191']
Here is a different shaft bought from same place though, where grip is on the other this one has a serial #.

[attachment=2534103:ImageUploadedByGolfWRX Mobile1418525263.754474.jpg]
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I'd be upset with whomever is responsible for those razor blade gouges from grip changing![/quote]

I was. I am. Unfortunately that's the business of buying used.

[goondawg]

[quote name='artica' timestamp='1418531681' post='10590537']
[quote name='prorobo' timestamp='1418531438' post='10590525'][quote name='artica' timestamp='1418525279' post='10590191']
Here is a different shaft bought from same place though, where grip is on the other this one has a serial #.

[attachment=2534103:ImageUploadedByGolfWRX Mobile1418525263.754474.jpg]
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I'd be upset with whomever is responsible for those razor blade gouges from grip changing![/quote]

I was. I am. Unfortunately that's the business of buying used.
[/quote]

It looks like it will be easily covered by the grip and not into the orange base coat. You won't be able to see it and won't harm the shaft. Don't really see an issue

[Tzoid]

If you suspect that your shaft is counterfeit use the visual indicators and have the shaft frequency checked. My shaft was 248cpm and GD claims the AD DI 6S should be 265cpm. Huge difference.
The risk we take buying used this day and age opens us up to counterfeits. Golf Pride grips are all over ebay as well so BEWARE.
I have friends that bought Mizuno & Titleist Irons that look damn good but turned out to be fakes.

[browne11]

I just won a used ad - mt with a sldr tip installed on eBay today. I put a max bid of $120 on it and never thought I would get it. Turns out I did. Do they have the same tell tale signs of being fake as the addi and adbbs? Haven't heard much of this one having fakes b

[goondawg]

Yes, the MT will have the etched serial And the overlap label line in the white section. There are fake MT shafts out there but the graphics are horrible. You will know immediately. In the ringed section the real MT has a greyish color that fades to the shaft color. The fakes have a much darker grey that doesn't fade. It is very obvious. The fake MTs also do not have the hologram Tour AD in the white section nor a line running down it where the label overlaps.

Link to a fake MT
http://m.aliexpress.com/item-desc/2046876628.html

[swgolf12]

There are fake MT's out there. Mine looked good, even had an etched serial. I could tell mine was fake due to the weight, weighed 76 grams uncut, which was about 12 grams too heavy for a new MT. Weigh your shaft without a grip, weigh a tip, figure out total weight, see if yours makes sense.

[Exist]

The fake DI's I've seen also do not have the 'made in japan - S for shaft' under the grip and all Tour AD shafts I've seen have a printed designation on the butt end after where the paint stops.

[smart.nx]

Just bought this shaft on ebay. Do you think it is real?

[goondawg]

Need a closer pic of the white section. If you can see the line running down the white section and the holograms in it you're good. The white section is not paint but a heat wrap label and the line is where it overlaps. The chinese fakes don't have this.

[smart.nx]

[quote name='goondawg ' timestamp='1423401925' post='10910507']
Need a closer pic of the white section. If you can see the line running down the white section and the holograms in it you're good. The white section is not paint but a heat wrap label and the line is where it overlaps. The chinese fakes don't have this.
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Only have this picture from the auction right now. Will have to wait until it arrives and post pictures then.

[cehb]

[quote name='smart.nx' timestamp='1423399345' post='10910395']
Just bought this shaft on ebay. Do you think it is real?
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Unfortunately no, not the best picture but you can clearly see that the DI-6s is too low in relation to the AD and there is no ghosting. Here's a real DI for reference

[smart.nx]

I contacted the seller and asked for better pictures and a serial number. But i'm also afraid now that it's a fake. Ebay will handle it then. Luckily I paid with PayPal so my money is safe.

[smart.nx]

It getting stranger. Got a new photo from the seller. The serialnumber makes no sense and it says regular?!

[BuckyBadger]

[quote name='smart.nx' timestamp='1423415325' post='10911377']
It getting stranger. Got a new photo from the seller. The serialnumber makes no sense and it says regular?!
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As they say in Germany: You're Lederhosed!

[xerpro]

[quote name='smart.nx' timestamp='1423399345' post='10910395']
Just bought this shaft on ebay. Do you think it is real?
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Looks fake to me...I have 8 of these shafts, and the dead giveaway of that one is the lines on the font, and no holograms. Good luck

[Tzoid]

[quote name='smart.nx' timestamp='1423415325' post='10911377']
It getting stranger. Got a new photo from the seller. The serialnumber makes no sense and it says regular?!
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That is definitely not a GD AD- DI Shaft.... the serial # is laser etched in the shaft and the Holographic circle should be on the shaft.