Mike Davis from USGA just said average 18-hole round cost $26

[duffer987]

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I wish courses would just drop the idea of cart fees. Have one price, regardless of whether you are walking or riding.
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Ya no thanks. As a walker, I don't want my greenfee subsidizing cart users.

If you are disabled, wave the cart fee. If you are able bodied stump up and pay the fee, otherwise use your legs.
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I agree with you for my personal situation, since I rarely use a cart, but in order to grow the game, let's just make it as simple as possible to understand the costs.
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Maybe semantics is the answer? (Not kidding either)
Green fee = $50
Green fee w/ "walkers discount" = $35

Maybe it would encourage more folks to walk as a positive side benefit. Oh hey look! A discount! Who doesn't love a discount?!

[jli2636]

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[quote name='ecrugger' timestamp='1431446184' post='11545318']
[quote name='duffer987' timestamp='1431445736' post='11545262']
[quote name='ecrugger' timestamp='1431445245' post='11545216']
I wish courses would just drop the idea of cart fees. Have one price, regardless of whether you are walking or riding.
[/quote]

Ya no thanks. As a walker, I don't want my greenfee subsidizing cart users.

If you are disabled, wave the cart fee. If you are able bodied stump up and pay the fee, otherwise use your legs.
[/quote]

I agree with you for my personal situation, since I rarely use a cart, but in order to grow the game, let's just make it as simple as possible to understand the costs.
[/quote]

Maybe semantics is the answer? (Not kidding either)
Green fee = $50
Green fee w/ "walkers discount" = $35

Maybe it would encourage more folks to walk as a positive side benefit. Oh hey look! A discount! Who doesn't love a discount?!
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I think this is the best way to tackle the cart cost issue. In our society people are always looking for a deal "what's in it for me" so to speak. Hell, if you have a range include range balls in the price of the green fee, but if you don't want range balls it knocks off $5.

[ecrugger]

[quote name='duffer987' timestamp='1431458145' post='11546656']
[quote name='ecrugger' timestamp='1431446184' post='11545318']
[quote name='duffer987' timestamp='1431445736' post='11545262']
[quote name='ecrugger' timestamp='1431445245' post='11545216']
I wish courses would just drop the idea of cart fees. Have one price, regardless of whether you are walking or riding.
[/quote]

Ya no thanks. As a walker, I don't want my greenfee subsidizing cart users.

If you are disabled, wave the cart fee. If you are able bodied stump up and pay the fee, otherwise use your legs.
[/quote]

I agree with you for my personal situation, since I rarely use a cart, but in order to grow the game, let's just make it as simple as possible to understand the costs.
[/quote]

Maybe semantics is the answer? (Not kidding either)
Green fee = $50
Green fee w/ "walkers discount" = $35

Maybe it would encourage more folks to walk as a positive side benefit. Oh hey look! A discount! Who doesn't love a discount?!
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I think you could be on to something.

[kgk]

Brown and fast is beautiful. Love it! I've always hated overwatered courses, and it appears that Climate Change is going to help me out here.

[Tex1986]

I live in Houston. I can walk a weekend afternoon at a municipal course for $15-17. If I feel like playing a nicer course I can usually hit up the Golf Now for $25-30 including cart in the afternoon.

During football season, the rates get even cheaper and start earlier.

[SurfDuffer]

I'd like an explanation of cart fees. I pay $26 just for a cart. 2 people in the cart is $52. When I'm in Florida I play a course with similar layout and conditions with the same freaking carts in the same condition and the round including the cart is $25.

[Argonne69]

[quote name='SurfDuffer' timestamp='1431602720' post='11557150']
I'd like an explanation of cart fees. I pay $26 just for a cart. 2 people in the cart is $52. When I'm in Florida I play a course with similar layout and conditions with the same freaking carts in the same condition and the round including the cart is $25.
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I think it's quite simple. The cart fee is not tied directly to any cost associated with supplying the cart. Basically, they'll charge whatever they think they can get away with. The fact that 2 courses can offer radically different fees on their carts supports this hypothesis.

[J-Rod11]

The average tee time could very well be $26, when you consider the cost of every tee time, regardless of day or time. However, I'd wager that most golf is played on the weekend, in the morning. Assuming all 7 days of the week offer the same number of tee times every day of the week, more of those tee times are probably used on Sat/Sun alone, than on all 5 other days combined. So that $26 is quite jaded.

I'd love to know what the average tee time costs Sat/Sun. morning between 7-11am. I'll bet it's not $26.

[SadTrombone]

What did Renee Russo say about delusion and denial?

[RVAUSMC]

On average in the Metro Richmond, VA price with cart is $40-50 range on weekends/ holidays. I work M-F and I am sure you can get deals during the week, but most of us are playing on weekends
and holidays.

[MadGolfer76]

There are different ways to calculate "average."

[JWells]

He must be averaging golf now hot deals

[billh17]

[quote name='SurfDuffer' timestamp='1431602720' post='11557150']
I'd like an explanation of cart fees. I pay $26 just for a cart. 2 people in the cart is $52. When I'm in Florida I play a course with similar layout and conditions with the same freaking carts in the same condition and the round including the cart is $25.
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the answer is simple...the courses will continue charging high prices for the carts,because people will

continue to pay it.As the baby boomers age,the owners of the courses see a never ending..always increasing number of older

folks who wil have to pay it ..or quit playing golf. Greedy and taking advantage of the retireing population? yep...good

ole supply and demand at its finest.... if people stop paying the fee...the prices will come down...

[Shipwreck]

[quote name='SurfDuffer' timestamp='1431602720' post='11557150']
I'd like an explanation of cart fees. I pay $26 just for a cart. 2 people in the cart is $52. When I'm in Florida I play a course with similar layout and conditions with the same freaking carts in the same condition and the round including the cart is $25.
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A buddy and I (a few years back) went and played Torrey Pines South. $60 green fees (okay) but it was something like $35 each for a cart....huh? What???? I guess it's a different company that runs the cart business at this course. Needless to say we walked....and were fricking exhausted at the end.

[driverwedge]

Hmm. I just paid $26..... for 9 holes..... to walk...... on an "average" course.

[BlackDiamondPar5]

I'll pay 22 to walk 18 on a nice course today.

[Stevie]

[quote name='golfcarte' timestamp='1430926977' post='11509975']
Mike Davis from the USGA was just talking in a presser for the Players, and said, that greens fees aren't the biggest threat to golf, its water. He went on to say the average 18-hole round cost $26.

Thoughts?
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Maybe he meant the cart fee for 18 holes is $26

[jli2636]

Maybe he IS factoring in golfnow, golf18network, Groupon, etc deals out there.

[llamont]

I played 18 holes with a cart at Brookside #1 (Pasadena, CA) on Sunday and I paid $25. We followed the last group playing in the final round of the Pasadena City Championship so the course/greens were in fantastic shape.