Billy H

[Anchor44]

[quote name='cheetah440' timestamp='1434927743' post='11803058']
Billy who?
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That would be the guy who won a ten million dollar fedex cup last year. If you're going to dis someone, pick on Tiger like everyone else.

[Frankensteins Monster]

[quote name='golfcarte' timestamp='1434924260' post='11802490']
he can say what he wants, but to think he can say it without consequence, is naive. right or wrong, he may be apologizing for those comments later.
[/quote]

Consequence from who? Who's going to do anything about it? Is Greg Norman gonna ban him from buying his wine? Not let him buy his grass for his lawn?

[golfcarte]

[quote name='Frankensteins Monster' timestamp='1434931383' post='11803586']
[quote name='golfcarte' timestamp='1434924260' post='11802490']
he can say what he wants, but to think he can say it without consequence, is naive. right or wrong, he may be apologizing for those comments later.
[/quote]

Consequence from who? Who's going to do anything about it? Is Greg Norman gonna ban him from buying his wine? Not let him buy his grass for his lawn?
[/quote]

the USGA will ban two-tone shoes.

[Czervik n Smails]

[quote name='Anchor44' timestamp='1434931261' post='11803566']
[quote name='cheetah440' timestamp='1434927743' post='11803058']
Billy who?
[/quote]
That would be the guy who won a ten million dollar fedex cup last year. If you're going to dis someone, pick on Tiger like everyone else.
[/quote]

Only majors count in golf. Fedex cup is just money on the side.

[MtlJeff]

[quote name='Frankensteins Monster' timestamp='1434931383' post='11803586']
[quote name='golfcarte' timestamp='1434924260' post='11802490']
he can say what he wants, but to think he can say it without consequence, is naive. right or wrong, he may be apologizing for those comments later.
[/quote]

Consequence from who? Who's going to do anything about it? Is Greg Norman gonna ban him from buying his wine? Not let him buy his grass for his lawn?
[/quote]

Norman's wine is really good too.... the first 3/4 of the bottle is fantastic, but i find it difficult to finish

[nova6868]

Lots of smart people have stated that this is the future of economically sustainable golf on the Pacific Coast. Hybrid greens. The USGA is always trying to showcase designs like this. Just like last year, they wanted lots of the water-sucking rough torn out.

Billy, I understand you don't like it. And you're free to express your opinion. But the way you've expressed yourself makes you seem a bit emotional and short-sighted.

Not to mention the argument rings hollow when the leaderboard is full of top-10 players.

[mac94]

[quote name='lawsonman' timestamp='1434923987' post='11802446']
I don't think he made himself look stupid at all. Billy is always going to say what's on his mind and if somebody doesn't like it, tough sh!t. I wish everybody would do it. Makes me want to puke with all the politically correct crap that comes out of most interviews.
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Always saying what is on one's mind is the definition of classless.

[golfcarte]

[quote name='MtlJeff' timestamp='1434931616' post='11803626']
[quote name='Frankensteins Monster' timestamp='1434931383' post='11803586']
[quote name='golfcarte' timestamp='1434924260' post='11802490']
he can say what he wants, but to think he can say it without consequence, is naive. right or wrong, he may be apologizing for those comments later.
[/quote]

Consequence from who? Who's going to do anything about it? Is Greg Norman gonna ban him from buying his wine? Not let him buy his grass for his lawn?
[/quote]

Norman's wine is really good too.... the first 3/4 of the bottle is fantastic, but i find it difficult to finish
[/quote]

well if you 'open' the bottle properly...

[golfcarte]

[quote name='mac94' timestamp='1434931661' post='11803636']
[quote name='lawsonman' timestamp='1434923987' post='11802446']
I don't think he made himself look stupid at all. Billy is always going to say what's on his mind and if somebody doesn't like it, tough sh!t. I wish everybody would do it. Makes me want to puke with all the politically correct crap that comes out of most interviews.
[/quote]

Always saying what is on one's mind is the definition of classless.
[/quote]

or the definition of a talk-show host.

[Frankensteins Monster]

[quote name='MtlJeff' timestamp='1434931616' post='11803626']
[quote name='Frankensteins Monster' timestamp='1434931383' post='11803586']
[quote name='golfcarte' timestamp='1434924260' post='11802490']
he can say what he wants, but to think he can say it without consequence, is naive. right or wrong, he may be apologizing for those comments later.
[/quote]

Consequence from who? Who's going to do anything about it? Is Greg Norman gonna ban him from buying his wine? Not let him buy his grass for his lawn?
[/quote]

Norman's wine is really good too.... the first 3/4 of the bottle is fantastic, but i find it difficult to finish
[/quote]

And leaves a bitter aftertaste.

[lil_jinx13]

Jack Nicklaus always said he loved to listen to fellow players complain about a golf course because he figured for every one who did, it was one less person he would have to beat that week.
Courtesy New York Post

[topr]

[quote name='MtlJeff' timestamp='1434931616' post='11803626']
[quote name='Frankensteins Monster' timestamp='1434931383' post='11803586']
[quote name='golfcarte' timestamp='1434924260' post='11802490']
he can say what he wants, but to think he can say it without consequence, is naive. right or wrong, he may be apologizing for those comments later.
[/quote]

Consequence from who? Who's going to do anything about it? Is Greg Norman gonna ban him from buying his wine? Not let him buy his grass for his lawn?
[/quote]

Norman's wine is really good too.... the first 3/4 of the bottle is fantastic, but i find it difficult to finish
[/quote]

Do you throw the cork in the trash can straight away?

#fullycommitted

[golfcarte]

[quote name='lil_jinx13' timestamp='1434931943' post='11803670']
Jack Nicklaus always said he loved to listen to fellow players complain about a golf course because he figured for every one who did, it was one less person he would have to beat that week.
Courtesy New York Post
[/quote]

i imagine he wishes he were about 40 years younger and playing against gary player this week.

[Russ757]

[quote name='buckeyefl' timestamp='1434927721' post='11803052']
[quote name='prorobo' timestamp='1434922746' post='11802264']
Situation 1: Player gives cordial and vanilla corporate responses in interview ("Would've been nice to make a few more putts, just happy to be here").
Wrx response: These guys are robots and have no personality.

Situation 2: Player speaks their mind in the heat of the moment and essentially summarizes the vast majority of their peers' opinions.
Wrx response: He's a tool/fool/whiny b***h/etc.

Can't win here.
[/quote]

It's even funnier coming from a group who would make a 20 page thread about arriving at a course and finding out the greens were punched but they weren't told and their $20 prepaid greens fees weren't refundable.
[/quote]

This for the win

[DTXgolfer12]

He was basically saying the same thing dozens of other players have said. Obviously there's a reason so many players are complaining. I honestly like the up front blunt approach. I'd rather have that than the emotionless/PC/ rehearsed interviews some of these guys give.

[golfcarte]

[quote name='texchad12' timestamp='1434932715' post='11803790']
I honestly like the up front blunt approach.
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so do probably 2/3rds of the gallery at chambers bay.

[bscinstnct]

[quote name='lil_jinx13' timestamp='1434931943' post='11803670']
Jack Nicklaus always said he loved to listen to fellow players complain about a golf course because he figured for every one who did, it was one less person he would have to beat that week.
Courtesy New York Post
[/quote]

Ha! Was just gonna say,

Anybody remember Jack complaining?

Different time. But there was a time athletes realized,

We watch to see them play, not talk and definitely not whine.

And Billy said the course punishes good putters and rewards average putters? Is that right?

Way to denigrate the winner.

[crazy8golfer]

I would tend to agree with Billy H after seeing what just happened to Snedeker's putt. What a load of crap !!

[G N R]

Everyone can blame the greens, but there was still a 64 out there today.

[cheetah440]

[quote name='texchad12' timestamp='1434932715' post='11803790']
He was basically saying the same thing dozens of other players have said. Obviously there's a reason so many players are complaining. I honestly like the up front blunt approach. I'd rather have that than the emotionless/PC/ rehearsed interviews some of these guys give.
[/quote]

The reason is they ALWAYS complain about the greens at the US Open when it's played on the West Coast.

Why does anyone act like this is new or unique?

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After missing the cut, Justin Rose complained: “I have to say these are the worst greens I have ever played on at a US Open.”

The Aussie went further, saying: “The old holes that have been cut over time all showed up. These are probably the worst greens I’ve ever putted on.”
Rose was joined in the Whingers’ Circle by Ernie Els and Robert Allenby.

The South African said: "You really can’t have a go at anything. If you are 25 to 35 feet away, you almost have to three-putt and not do anything stupid.”


These guys are spoiled f****** prima donnas used to putting on pool table greens that are prefection. You have to try to miss a 5 footer on some of the tour greens.

[golfcarte]

[quote name='G N R' timestamp='1434934173' post='11803966']
Everyone can blame the greens, but there was still a 64 out there today.
[/quote]

yes, some guy named scott, but they won't say his last name.

[Sean2]

[quote name='bscinstnct' timestamp='1434932923' post='11803818']
[quote name='lil_jinx13' timestamp='1434931943' post='11803670']
Jack Nicklaus always said he loved to listen to fellow players complain about a golf course because he figured for every one who did, it was one less person he would have to beat that week.
Courtesy New York Post
[/quote]

Ha! Was just gonna say,

Anybody remember Jack complaining?

Different time. But there was a time athletes realized,

We watch to see them play, not talk and definitely not whine.

And Billy said the course punishes good putters and rewards average putters? Is that right?

Way to denigrate the winner.
[/quote]

Jack spent too much time winning, not whining.

[golfcarte]

[quote name='cheetah440' timestamp='1434934235' post='11803978']
[quote name='texchad12' timestamp='1434932715' post='11803790']
He was basically saying the same thing dozens of other players have said. Obviously there's a reason so many players are complaining. I honestly like the up front blunt approach. I'd rather have that than the emotionless/PC/ rehearsed interviews some of these guys give.
[/quote]

The reason is they ALWAYS complain about the greens at the US Open when it's played on the West Coast.

Why does anyone act like this is new or unique?

[url="http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/golf/pga/2010-06-19-us-open-woods-criticized_N.htm"]http://usatoday30.us... ... ized_N.htm[/url]

[url="http://www.golfmagic.com/news/golf-news/the-whingers-are-at-it-again/5682.html"]http://www.golfmagic... ... /5682.html[/url]

After missing the cut, Justin Rose complained: “I have to say these are the worst greens I have ever played on at a US Open.”

The Aussie went further, saying: “The old holes that have been cut over time all showed up. These are probably the worst greens I’ve ever putted on.”
Rose was joined in the Whingers’ Circle by Ernie Els and Robert Allenby.

The South African said: "You really can’t have a go at anything. If you are 25 to 35 feet away, you almost have to three-putt and not do anything stupid.”


These guys are spoiled f****** prima donnas used to putting on pool table greens that are prefection. You have to try to miss a 5 footer on some of the tour greens.
[/quote]

justin rose should complain you are referring to him as an aussie.

[Sean2]

[quote name='G N R' timestamp='1434934173' post='11803966']
Everyone can blame the greens, but there was still a 64 out there today.
[/quote]

And a 66. Rory and Adam didn't get the memo how "unfair" and "difficult" Chambers Bay is. Or they did and just tossed it.

[cheetah440]

[quote name='golfcarte' timestamp='1434934400' post='11804000']
[quote name='cheetah440' timestamp='1434934235' post='11803978']
[quote name='texchad12' timestamp='1434932715' post='11803790']
He was basically saying the same thing dozens of other players have said. Obviously there's a reason so many players are complaining. I honestly like the up front blunt approach. I'd rather have that than the emotionless/PC/ rehearsed interviews some of these guys give.
[/quote]

The reason is they ALWAYS complain about the greens at the US Open when it's played on the West Coast.

Why does anyone act like this is new or unique?

[url="http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/golf/pga/2010-06-19-us-open-woods-criticized_N.htm"]http://usatoday30.us... ... ized_N.htm[/url]

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After missing the cut, Justin Rose complained: “I have to say these are the worst greens I have ever played on at a US Open.”

The Aussie went further, saying: “The old holes that have been cut over time all showed up. These are probably the worst greens I’ve ever putted on.”
Rose was joined in the Whingers’ Circle by Ernie Els and Robert Allenby.

The South African said: "You really can’t have a go at anything. If you are 25 to 35 feet away, you almost have to three-putt and not do anything stupid.”


These guys are spoiled f****** prima donnas used to putting on pool table greens that are prefection. You have to try to miss a 5 footer on some of the tour greens.
[/quote]

justin rose should complain you are referring to him as an aussie.
[/quote]

bad cut a paste job, that was Allenby they were referencing.........point is, these guys always complain. they complained about the course in Boston and had it changed, they complained about Cog Hill, on and on and on. Whine and complain instead of looking in the mirror. Both Day and DJ missed putts on 12 and they were BOTH terrible putts.

[golfcarte]

[quote name='cheetah440' timestamp='1434934593' post='11804038']
[quote name='golfcarte' timestamp='1434934400' post='11804000']
[quote name='cheetah440' timestamp='1434934235' post='11803978']
[quote name='texchad12' timestamp='1434932715' post='11803790']
He was basically saying the same thing dozens of other players have said. Obviously there's a reason so many players are complaining. I honestly like the up front blunt approach. I'd rather have that than the emotionless/PC/ rehearsed interviews some of these guys give.
[/quote]

The reason is they ALWAYS complain about the greens at the US Open when it's played on the West Coast.

Why does anyone act like this is new or unique?

[url="http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/golf/pga/2010-06-19-us-open-woods-criticized_N.htm"]http://usatoday30.us... ... ized_N.htm[/url]

[url="http://www.golfmagic.com/news/golf-news/the-whingers-are-at-it-again/5682.html"]http://www.golfmagic... ... /5682.html[/url]

After missing the cut, Justin Rose complained: “I have to say these are the worst greens I have ever played on at a US Open.”

The Aussie went further, saying: “The old holes that have been cut over time all showed up. These are probably the worst greens I’ve ever putted on.”
Rose was joined in the Whingers’ Circle by Ernie Els and Robert Allenby.

The South African said: "You really can’t have a go at anything. If you are 25 to 35 feet away, you almost have to three-putt and not do anything stupid.”


These guys are spoiled f****** prima donnas used to putting on pool table greens that are prefection. You have to try to miss a 5 footer on some of the tour greens.
[/quote]

justin rose should complain you are referring to him as an aussie.
[/quote]

bad cut a paste job, that was Allenby they were referencing.........point is, these guys always complain. they complained about the course in Boston and had it changed, they complained about Cog Hill, on and on and on. Whine and complain instead of looking in the mirror. Both Day and DJ missed putts on 12 and they were BOTH terrible putts.
[/quote]

they also complained about oakland hills during the '08 PGA. it must have worked, because they haven't been back there since, and won't be back for the foreseeable future.

http://www.golf.com/tour-and-news/players-piling-course-setup-pga-championship

[cheetah440]

[quote name='golfcarte' timestamp='1434934863' post='11804090']
[quote name='cheetah440' timestamp='1434934593' post='11804038']
[quote name='golfcarte' timestamp='1434934400' post='11804000']
[quote name='cheetah440' timestamp='1434934235' post='11803978']
[quote name='texchad12' timestamp='1434932715' post='11803790']
He was basically saying the same thing dozens of other players have said. Obviously there's a reason so many players are complaining. I honestly like the up front blunt approach. I'd rather have that than the emotionless/PC/ rehearsed interviews some of these guys give.
[/quote]

The reason is they ALWAYS complain about the greens at the US Open when it's played on the West Coast.

Why does anyone act like this is new or unique?

[url="http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/golf/pga/2010-06-19-us-open-woods-criticized_N.htm"]http://usatoday30.us... ... ized_N.htm[/url]

[url="http://www.golfmagic.com/news/golf-news/the-whingers-are-at-it-again/5682.html"]http://www.golfmagic... ... /5682.html[/url]

After missing the cut, Justin Rose complained: “I have to say these are the worst greens I have ever played on at a US Open.”

The Aussie went further, saying: “The old holes that have been cut over time all showed up. These are probably the worst greens I’ve ever putted on.”
Rose was joined in the Whingers’ Circle by Ernie Els and Robert Allenby.

The South African said: "You really can’t have a go at anything. If you are 25 to 35 feet away, you almost have to three-putt and not do anything stupid.”


These guys are spoiled f****** prima donnas used to putting on pool table greens that are prefection. You have to try to miss a 5 footer on some of the tour greens.
[/quote]

justin rose should complain you are referring to him as an aussie.
[/quote]

bad cut a paste job, that was Allenby they were referencing.........point is, these guys always complain. they complained about the course in Boston and had it changed, they complained about Cog Hill, on and on and on. Whine and complain instead of looking in the mirror. Both Day and DJ missed putts on 12 and they were BOTH terrible putts.
[/quote]

they also complained about oakland hills during the '08 PGA. it must have worked, because they haven't been back there since, and won't be back for the foreseeable future.

[url="http://www.golf.com/tour-and-news/players-piling-course-setup-pga-championship"]http://www.golf.com/...ga-championship[/url]
[/quote]

And yet Harrington shot 66-66 on the weekend........

[IM_ALL_IN]

His behavior on the course, especially #6, wasn't great, but how can you blame the guy for these thoughts?

[media]http://youtu.be/bHhgADf4AEk[/media]

[dabrian]

He looked like an idiot with the foolishness he was pulling on the greens.

[THenman]

How often is it necessary to define a green with white dots?! How often do you see putts bounce in the air and lose a lot of distance? How often can you not tell the green while watching on TV?

The greens were/are BAD.

Billy got a little over the top on the course with the putter slam. (Esp. since he was not in last group!) Still he had a point in the greens being bad. I'm not sure that they will affect who comes out on top over 72 holes however since everyone is having the same problems. Plus the rest of the course seems very demanding.