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S59 vs. I5
bo2484 ·
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I currently play x-tour callies, and have been pondering on buying pings I was wondering if the s59 is as forgiving as the X-tour, and has which feels better out of the 2 ping models the reason for the switch is that i bought the ping tour wedges and they are awesome so i thought i would give the ping a shot
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1.) S59 Tour is the Polished and Brushed finish with the ferrule. This polished finish will wear over time, scuff and has had rust problems in the past.
2.) S59 is the Blasted finish. Similar appearance to the i3 and i3+ that is indestructible. There is no rust concerns with these. These will not only wear very closely to the i5, but it is my opinion the S59 will wear better than the i5 due to the fact the i5 has a different coating prior to heat treatment that will scratch and wear over time as compared to previous Pings. This can be witnessed by the light color finish as compared to Pings in the past that are grayish in color.
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Anyway, I just got a set of i3+ Blade's. I'm gonna go and try them out. But the S59's are gonna be tough to beat as I hit 14 greens on my last round with them.
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I finally gave up and went to i5s figuring that these had the tumbled finish and guyson coating all over them with no polish job. Sad to report you can get some rust on the i5s in the deepest part of the cavity that is recessed. Not an issue with the wedges as the cavity isn't as deep. It is no where near the problem that the S-59s exhibit. It seems that the finish and tumbling that ping now uses (probably due to EPA requirements) is not what it once was. If you look at many of the pictures posted of ping irons in pros bags you can see rust in the cavities of i5s and S-59s but to date I have not seen any in the cavity of the i3+s like DiMarcos for example.
The i5s are very forgiving on off center strikes (which the S-59s are not) and the i5 wedges are the best wedges ping has made since the eye2s (not the Tour wedges by the way). The i5 wedges are the best kept secret in golf.
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If my Eye2+'s don't come around, I'm getting a combo set.
It could be the shafts though, but I'm not very happy right now.
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That is why I was hoping for a black nickel chrome finished version. (It is a great looking iron except for the offset in the 2 and 3 iron). That would have certainly solved the problem but they have decided not to do it. Interestingly enough with all the problems I have had with the S-59s I've never had a hint of a problem with any of the polished tour wedges (have had 4 of those) so go figure.
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I find forgiveness on off-centre hits to be excellent with the S59 Tours. I probably shouldn't play them, at my high handicap, but compared to the i3+s I had before, I don't think there's much difference.
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Totally agree
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At the Boston Golf Expo, the PING rep I spoke with hand't heard of any issues with the finish (hmmm... not sure if I totally believe him on that
All I know is that if the trajectory suits me and I can get as much out of the irons as I can get out of the I5's I might be diving in head first with the Tours
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I found my S59 Tours more forgiving then my I3+ Blades. I also have not encountered the rust problem
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They never acknowledged they have a problem with any of mine----never any feedback, they would just replace or refinish the clubs no questions asked. I sure wouldn't expect a rep. to say there was a problem even if there was a problem--he's trying to sell you clubs. They have definitively said NO black chrome finish on the S-59s. Too many logistics problems involving how many color codes to have chromed since they do not bend well beyond 2 degrees. The chrome wrinkles on the hosel. Since they are chromed in China they weren't about to try and guess how many heads in what color code region to have chromed. Wedges only.
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Are you saying my experiment is a waste?
Last few rounds with S59 w/ Rifle 5.5 (score & putts):
- 84 (38) w/ 53% FW Hit, 50% Green Hit
- 81 (35) w/ 92% FW Hit, 33% Green Hit
- 78 (39) w/ 76% FW Hit, 77% Green Hit (Last round with the S59 before I tried the i3+ Blade.)
I just got the i3+ Blade last week and have played two rounds with them. i3+ Blade w/ DG-R300:
- 82 (38) w/ 69% FW Hit, 61% Green Hit
(I consider this as a well-played round as it's quite windy--20-25mph--and wind is not a good friend of mine as I'm a high ball hitter. Also, the clubs were 1/2" longer for me with jumbo grips.)
- 84 (38) w/ 46% FW Hit, 44% Green Hit
(I don't blame the clubs as I played with someone who really turned off my tempo.)
Oh, well, maybe I better off pratice putting or get a new putter instead.
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