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  • bcflyguy1bcflyguy1 Enjoying my coffee... Members  3101WRX Points: 188Handicap: 0.0Posts: 3,101 Titanium Tees
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    mackepa wrote:
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    QMany wrote:
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    Can you guys explain to me how the fitter can come to the conclusion a shaft isn't giving good dispersion for players who are amateurs and therefore don't have repeatable swings?<br />
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    incredulous.gif<br />
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    He's right. Why even get fit? Callaway should have just given us tennis rackets.<br />
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    Took longer than I thought it would, but "that guy" finally showed up.
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  • misplacedtexan83misplacedtexan83 Members  15754WRX Points: 751Posts: 15,754 Titanium Tees
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    So all of y'all that went...<br />
    <br />
    Obviously fitting is important but is the 2017 technology that good or was it the world class filters that made y'all all say..holy Sh*t with the new stuff? <br />
    <br />
    Posted:
    Callaway Mavrik SZ *9.0 w/ UST Attas 11
    Callaway Mavrik *15 w/ UST Attas 11
    Callaway Mavrik *18 w/ UST Attas 11
    Callaway 19' Apex Pros 4-Pw/ UST Recoil 125 Protos F4 
    Callaway MD5 50W & 54W & 58X w/ UST Recoil 125
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  • mackepamackepa #TheWRX Members  3751WRX Points: 295Posts: 3,751 Titanium Tees
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    So all of y'all that went...<br />
    <br />
    Obviously fitting is important but is the 2017 technology that good or was it the world class filters that made y'all all say..holy Sh*t with the new stuff? <br />
    <br />
    <br />
    So for me even in a stock configuration the new drivers were longer than my well fit gamer. Once the world class fitters got involved it was game over.
    Posted:
    #TheWRX 12/11/16
    Epic Flash SZ 9* AD IZ 6
    Epic Flash SZ 15* AD IZ 8
    Epic Flash TC 18.5* Kai Li 80
    X Forged Utility 22* $-Taper
    Apex Combo 5-P - $-Taper
    MD4 52s, 56s, 60x - $-Taper
    Toulon Las Vegas KBS 120
    Jones Utility Rover

  • QManyQMany #TheWRX ClubWRX  9190WRX Points: 303Handicap: +2.5Posts: 9,190 ClubWRX
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    So all of y'all that went...<br />
    <br />
    Obviously fitting is important but is the 2017 technology that good or was it the world class filters that made y'all all say..holy Sh*t with the new stuff?<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    A little bit of both, to be honest. It is hard to learn the MOI numbers, deflection charts, etc. then see the results during the fitting and on the course and not think it has a little to do with technology. Then the Tour-level fitting is also to blame. I think that further narrows down the dispersion and maximizes the technology, if that makes sense.
    Posted:
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    Callaway XR Pro (20°) Diamana White 90X
    Callaway Apex Pro (4i-PW) DG X100 TI
    Ping Glide 2.0 (50° & 54°) DG S400 TI
    Artisan MT Grind (58°) DG S400
    Odyssey O Works R-Line
    Taylormade TP5X

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  • The Chicken ConnoisseurThe Chicken Connoisseur The Pengest Munch Banned  3732WRX Points: 0Posts: 3,732
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    bcflyguy1 wrote:
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    mackepa wrote:
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    QMany wrote:
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    Can you guys explain to me how the fitter can come to the conclusion a shaft isn't giving good dispersion for players who are amateurs and therefore don't have repeatable swings?<br />
    <br />
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    incredulous.gif<br />
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    He's right. Why even get fit? Callaway should have just given us tennis rackets.<br />
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    Took longer than I thought it would, but "that guy" finally showed up.<br />
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    How is that not a valid question...<br />
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    The guy who had the Tour V 120 x said after hitting a few balls the fitter said the shaft isn't giving good dispersion. I'm asking how can you attribute that to the shaft on the swing of an amateur. <br />
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    Not sure why I'm getting laughed at
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  • ell_13ell_13 Members  74WRX Points: 0Posts: 74
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    Not sure why I'm getting laughed at
    Are you saying a fitter (one of the best in the business), listening to the golfer, won't be able to identify a mis hit vs the result of the equipment?
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    TM M1 3W; Aldila Rogue Silver 70X
    TM M2 3H; TaylorMade REAX 75S
    Srixon 765 4-PW; Modus Tour 120S
    Callaway MD Forged 50*, 54*, 60*; KBS Wedge 120
    GP Tour Wrap Grips on Irons/Wedges
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  • mackepamackepa #TheWRX Members  3751WRX Points: 295Posts: 3,751 Titanium Tees
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    bcflyguy1 wrote:
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    mackepa wrote:
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    QMany wrote:
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    Can you guys explain to me how the fitter can come to the conclusion a shaft isn't giving good dispersion for players who are amateurs and therefore don't have repeatable swings?<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    incredulous.gif<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    He's right. Why even get fit? Callaway should have just given us tennis rackets.<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    Took longer than I thought it would, but "that guy" finally showed up.<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    How is that not a valid question...<br />
    <br />
    The guy who had the Tour V 120 x said after hitting a few balls the fitter said the shaft isn't giving good dispersion. I'm asking how can you attribute that to the shaft on the swing of an amateur. <br />
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    Not sure why I'm getting laughed at<br />
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    Sorry, it must have been your wording. While doing the fittings we intentionally threw the really bad swings out as that's not a fair representation of the technology. We did that with both our gamers and new fits. Even when I hit the shafts that didn't work out well the dispersion had a wider range than the Tour V 120X so we went with that. Pros mishit balls too so I'm sure these guys throw out poor strikes for them too. <br />
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    If a fitter sees a trend of multiple poor strikes with one configuration then it's probably not worth trying too hard to find some good strikes.
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    #TheWRX 12/11/16
    Epic Flash SZ 9* AD IZ 6
    Epic Flash SZ 15* AD IZ 8
    Epic Flash TC 18.5* Kai Li 80
    X Forged Utility 22* $-Taper
    Apex Combo 5-P - $-Taper
    MD4 52s, 56s, 60x - $-Taper
    Toulon Las Vegas KBS 120
    Jones Utility Rover

  • The Chicken ConnoisseurThe Chicken Connoisseur The Pengest Munch Banned  3732WRX Points: 0Posts: 3,732
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    Poor strikes isn't the same thing as just missing the target
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  • Homerun2BirdieHomerun2Birdie Members  858WRX Points: 73Posts: 858 Golden Tee
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    HipCheck wrote:
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    I love the "New 2017 Callaway Driver" but since I can't show it, here's something for you...<br />
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    Looks like a Milled Collection TX with a White Hot Pro insert<br />
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    Posted:
    - TM

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  • QManyQMany #TheWRX ClubWRX  9190WRX Points: 303Handicap: +2.5Posts: 9,190 ClubWRX
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    Taylormade SLDR Mini (14°) Matrix White Tie 70X
    Callaway XR Pro (20°) Diamana White 90X
    Callaway Apex Pro (4i-PW) DG X100 TI
    Ping Glide 2.0 (50° & 54°) DG S400 TI
    Artisan MT Grind (58°) DG S400
    Odyssey O Works R-Line
    Taylormade TP5X

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  • balladmballadm Augusta, GAMembers  814WRX Points: 150Handicap: +1Posts: 814 Golden Tee
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    Great pics of the guys swings!
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  • HipCheckHipCheck Twitter @robmillertime The Right CoastMembers  6306WRX Points: 160Posts: 6,306 Titanium Tees
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    HipCheck wrote:
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    I love the "New 2017 Callaway Driver" but since I can't show it, here's something for you...<br />
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    Looks like a Milled Collection TX with a White Hot Pro insert<br />
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    Yes sir.
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  • mackepamackepa #TheWRX Members  3751WRX Points: 295Posts: 3,751 Titanium Tees
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    HipCheck wrote:
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    <br />
    HipCheck wrote:
    <br />
    I love the "New 2017 Callaway Driver" but since I can't show it, here's something for you...<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    Looks like a Milled Collection TX with a White Hot Pro insert<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    <br />
    Yes sir.<br />
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    <br />
    HipCheck wrote:
    <br />
    I love the "New 2017 Callaway Driver" but since I can't show it, here's something for you...<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    Looks like a Milled Collection TX with a White Hot Pro insert<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    <br />
    Yes sir.<br />
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    Rob owes me another trip for finding it in Austie's office. <img src='http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/pimp.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':pimp:' /> <img src='http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cheesy.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':cheesy:' />
    Posted:
    #TheWRX 12/11/16
    Epic Flash SZ 9* AD IZ 6
    Epic Flash SZ 15* AD IZ 8
    Epic Flash TC 18.5* Kai Li 80
    X Forged Utility 22* $-Taper
    Apex Combo 5-P - $-Taper
    MD4 52s, 56s, 60x - $-Taper
    Toulon Las Vegas KBS 120
    Jones Utility Rover

  • GolfrnutGolfrnut Members  7638WRX Points: 453Posts: 7,638 Titanium Tees
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    Can you guys explain to me how the fitter can come to the conclusion a shaft isn't giving good dispersion for players who are amateurs and therefore don't have repeatable swings?
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    Why would you think they are not repeatable just because they are amateurs? That's not really the difference between pros and amateurs. If you look at the difference through monitor results, you'll find that neither really change all the much.
    Posted:
    TM M3 440 w/ Speeder Evo II 6.1 TS
    TM M4 13.5 "Small Version"  w/ BB S+ 70
    Taylormade P790 2 UDI w/ DG 105R or M3 19* 5W w/ BB S+ 70
    Taylormade P790 3 Iron w/ DG AMT White R300
    4-PW Nike VR Pro MBs w/ DG AMT White R300
    Callaway MD3 52* & 58* PM grind
    Odyssey MXM 1W
  • CallawayLeftyCallawayLefty Lefty Boomers  2069WRX Points: 170Posts: 2,069 Platinum Tees
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    QMany wrote:
    <br />
    <br />
    So all of y'all that went...<br />
    <br />
    Obviously fitting is important but is the 2017 technology that good or was it the world class filters that made y'all all say..holy Sh*t with the new stuff?<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    A little bit of both, to be honest. It is hard to learn the MOI numbers, deflection charts, etc. then see the results during the fitting and on the course and not think it has a little to do with technology. Then the Tour-level fitting is also to blame. I think that further narrows down the dispersion and maximizes the technology, if that makes sense.<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    I think you guys got the highest level of fitting there is to get. It's not the same as going to Golf Galaxy and having some dude rotate through the 4 stock shafts and tell you which one looks the best for you. I told Q this several times, but I was equally jealous of the opportunity to get that fitting as I was the opportunity to get all the free stuff. I think a proper equipment fitting can work wonders, especially when you have all of the options available that you guys had at the ECPC. For example, if you fit into an X flex shaft, what's the most possible options you'll get at a regular store/range fitting - maybe get 2 shafts to choose between? Honestly, I stopped worrying about launch monitor fittings years ago. I just go by ball flight and feel, because I know whatever fitting I can get at a "normal" spot would be about as good as I can fit myself with my own two eyes. The next time I want a real fitting, I'm going to the TPI, or to Callaway, or to Cool Clubs or something like that. No point to the others in my opinion, provided that you're already reasonably well versed in ball flight, equipment performance, etc.
    Posted:
  • misplacedtexan83misplacedtexan83 Members  15754WRX Points: 751Posts: 15,754 Titanium Tees
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    mackepa wrote:
    So all of y'all that went... Obviously fitting is important but is the 2017 technology that good or was it the world class filters that made y'all all say..holy Sh*t with the new stuff?
    So for me even in a stock configuration the new drivers were longer than my well fit gamer. Once the world class fitters got involved it was game over.
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    That is what I was looking for and thought. Some people are doubters of the technology involved in the new EPIC heads. Yall were fitted by world class fitters, so that enhances everything but the bone stock driver was out performing yours...<br />
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    QMany wrote:
    So all of y'all that went... Obviously fitting is important but is the 2017 technology that good or was it the world class filters that made y'all all say..holy Sh*t with the new stuff?
    A little bit of both, to be honest. It is hard to learn the MOI numbers, deflection charts, etc. then see the results during the fitting and on the course and not think it has a little to do with technology. Then the Tour-level fitting is also to blame. I think that further narrows down the dispersion and maximizes the technology, if that makes sense.
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    Another example for some, the technology in this head has been years in the making and it just flat out produces. I know the world class fitting got your grouping even tighter, which why most people should get fitted. <br />
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    Also, doesn’t hurt to have your swing <img src='http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' /><br />
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    Congrats again guys!
    Posted:
    Callaway Mavrik SZ *9.0 w/ UST Attas 11
    Callaway Mavrik *15 w/ UST Attas 11
    Callaway Mavrik *18 w/ UST Attas 11
    Callaway 19' Apex Pros 4-Pw/ UST Recoil 125 Protos F4 
    Callaway MD5 50W & 54W & 58X w/ UST Recoil 125
    protos F4

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  • rymail00rymail00 Members  6705WRX Points: 159Handicap: 6Posts: 6,705 Titanium Tees
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    bcflyguy1 wrote:
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    mackepa wrote:
    <br />
    QMany wrote:
    <br />
    <br />
    Can you guys explain to me how the fitter can come to the conclusion a shaft isn't giving good dispersion for players who are amateurs and therefore don't have repeatable swings?<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    incredulous.gif<br />
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    He's right. Why even get fit? Callaway should have just given us tennis rackets.<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    Took longer than I thought it would, but "that guy" finally showed up.<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    You can always count on MM to give those type posts.
    Posted:
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    Titleist AP2 718, 5-50* Steelfiber i95s
    Scratch TD DW 54* 58* KBS HiRev
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  • scottazscottaz ClubWRX  2048WRX Points: 245Handicap: 1.6Posts: 2,048 ClubWRX
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    QMany wrote:
    <br />
    <br />
    So all of y'all that went...<br />
    <br />
    Obviously fitting is important but is the 2017 technology that good or was it the world class filters that made y'all all say..holy Sh*t with the new stuff?<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    A little bit of both, to be honest. It is hard to learn the MOI numbers, deflection charts, etc. then see the results during the fitting and on the course and not think it has a little to do with technology. Then the Tour-level fitting is also to blame. I think that further narrows down the dispersion and maximizes the technology, if that makes sense.<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    I think you guys got the highest level of fitting there is to get. It's not the same as going to Golf Galaxy and having some dude rotate through the 4 stock shafts and tell you which one looks the best for you. I told Q this several times, but I was equally jealous of the opportunity to get that fitting as I was the opportunity to get all the free stuff. I think a proper equipment fitting can work wonders, especially when you have all of the options available that you guys had at the ECPC. For example, if you fit into an X flex shaft, what's the most possible options you'll get at a regular store/range fitting - maybe get 2 shafts to choose between? Honestly, I stopped worrying about launch monitor fittings years ago. I just go by ball flight and feel, because I know whatever fitting I can get at a "normal" spot would be about as good as I can fit myself with my own two eyes. The next time I want a real fitting, I'm going to the TPI, or to Callaway, or to Cool Clubs or something like that. No point to the others in my opinion, provided that you're already reasonably well versed in ball flight, equipment performance, etc.<br />
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    I couldn't agree more. I think the spec sheets you came home with (along with remembering what felt right to you during testing) may be the most valuable swag from the trip.
    Posted:

    Ping G400MAX 8.5 TPT 14 proto

    Callaway Super Hybrid 17 Hzrdus tour black 105x

    Callaway Apex 20 Fujikura pro 115x

    Mizuno HMP PW-4 DG TI 100x

    Vokey sm7 50f, 55f, 60k DG TI 100x

    L.A.B Golf B.2 blade putter

  • The Chicken ConnoisseurThe Chicken Connoisseur The Pengest Munch Banned  3732WRX Points: 0Posts: 3,732
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    rymail00 wrote:
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    bcflyguy1 wrote:
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    mackepa wrote:
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    QMany wrote:
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    Can you guys explain to me how the fitter can come to the conclusion a shaft isn't giving good dispersion for players who are amateurs and therefore don't have repeatable swings?<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    incredulous.gif<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    He's right. Why even get fit? Callaway should have just given us tennis rackets.<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    Took longer than I thought it would, but "that guy" finally showed up.<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    You can always count on MM to give those type posts.<br />
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    Ok so since you guys had a Trackman, did your path, face, aoa, etc. #'s all stay the same to be able to deduce that it is indeed the shaft that in changing the outcome?
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  • QManyQMany #TheWRX ClubWRX  9190WRX Points: 303Handicap: +2.5Posts: 9,190 ClubWRX
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    Ok so since you guys had a Trackman, did your path, face, aoa, etc. #'s all stay the same to be able to deduce that it is indeed the shaft that in changing the outcome?<br />
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    No, my path, face, AOA, etc. did not stay the exact same on every swing. I'm not that good; I don't know anyone who is.
    Posted:
    Currently in #TheWRX...

    Taylormade M3 460 (9.5°) Tensei CK Pro Orange 70TX
    Taylormade SLDR Mini (14°) Matrix White Tie 70X
    Callaway XR Pro (20°) Diamana White 90X
    Callaway Apex Pro (4i-PW) DG X100 TI
    Ping Glide 2.0 (50° & 54°) DG S400 TI
    Artisan MT Grind (58°) DG S400
    Odyssey O Works R-Line
    Taylormade TP5X

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  • QManyQMany #TheWRX ClubWRX  9190WRX Points: 303Handicap: +2.5Posts: 9,190 ClubWRX
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    I got my Trackman report back. I will try to get a screen shot and post ASAP. But at first glance:<br />
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    PING G30 + 45.75" Alta 55 X fit at PING HQ:
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    • 110.6 CHS, 166.4 BS, 1.50 SF, 12.8 launch, 2055 spin, 270.2 carry<br />
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    Callaway New 2017 Driver + varying 45" 70 X fit at ECPC:
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    • 111.8 CHS, 166.9 BS, 1.49 SF, 12.5 launch, 1833 spin, 272.3 carry<br />
    • 112.8 CHS, 169.7 BS, 1.50 SF, 10.2 launch, 2157 spin, 269.0 carry<br />
    • 112.5 CHS, 169.7 BS, 1.51 SF, 12.2 launch, 2478 spin, 275.7 carry<br />
    • 112.1 CHS, 167.6 BS, 1.49 SF, 11.6 launch, 3082 spin, 272.9 carry<br />
    <br />
    (EDIT: These are actual numbers taken with wind in and off the right. He also had normalized numbers listed on his screen. Flightscope Optimizer calculates the third New 2017 Driver at 291.9 carry.)
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    Currently in #TheWRX...

    Taylormade M3 460 (9.5°) Tensei CK Pro Orange 70TX
    Taylormade SLDR Mini (14°) Matrix White Tie 70X
    Callaway XR Pro (20°) Diamana White 90X
    Callaway Apex Pro (4i-PW) DG X100 TI
    Ping Glide 2.0 (50° & 54°) DG S400 TI
    Artisan MT Grind (58°) DG S400
    Odyssey O Works R-Line
    Taylormade TP5X

    QMany's Swing/Sticks / Instagram
  • chickenpotpiechickenpotpie #TeamJetSpeed Members  8538WRX Points: 151Handicap: 5.5Posts: 8,538 Titanium Tees
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    MM, does any of that matter? If you have a representative sample set you can see differences between clubs/shafts. Shafts will likely change those variables, some for the good and some not. Your pro versus amateur swing point only changes the number of swings needing to be taken to get a sample set. Basic stats issue.
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  • mackepamackepa #TheWRX Members  3751WRX Points: 295Posts: 3,751 Titanium Tees
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    MM, does any of that matter? If you have a representative sample set you can see differences between clubs/shafts. Shafts will likely change those variables, some for the good and some not. Your pro versus amateur swing point only changes the number of swings needing to be taken to get a sample set. Basic stats issue.<br />
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    Yes, Callaway themselves were adamant that the Pros will see gains with the new clubs but nothing like what some of us experienced because they're already optimum.
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  • The Chicken ConnoisseurThe Chicken Connoisseur The Pengest Munch Banned  3732WRX Points: 0Posts: 3,732
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    I'm not trying to be a dick I'm just genuinely curious. I've never had a top-level fitting before, and I worked in a local shop for a long time as a fitter, and with 99.9% of players its really more about just trying to get what feels comfortable and if possible result in more consistent strikes, but to notice a dispersion improvement as a result of the shaft and not random chance is hard
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  • DavePelz4DavePelz4 A golf course in the Chicago area.ClubWRX  25408WRX Points: 2,565Handicap: 2 ManyPosts: 25,408 ClubWRX
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    QMany wrote:
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    I got my Trackman report back. I will try to get a screen shot and post ASAP. But at first glance:<br />
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    PING G30 + 45.75" Alta 55 X fit at PING HQ:
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    • 110.6 CHS, 166.4 BS, 1.50 SF, 12.8 launch, 2055 spin, 270.2 carry<br />
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    Callaway New 2017 Driver + varying 45" 80 X fit at ECPC:
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    • 111.8 CHS, 166.9 BS, 1.49 SF, 12.5 launch, 1833 spin, 272.3 carry<br />
    • 112.8 CHS, 169.7 BS, 1.50 SF, 10.2 launch, 2157 spin, 269.0 carry<br />
    • 112.5 CHS, 169.7 BS, 1.51 SF, 12.2 launch, 2478 spin, 275.7 carry<br />
    • 112.1 CHS, 167.6 BS, 1.49 SF, 11.6 launch, 3082 spin, 272.9 carry<br />
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    (EDIT: These are actual numbers taken with wind in and off the right. He also had normalized numbers listed on his screen. Flightscope Optimizer calculates the third New 2017 Driver at 291.9 carry.)<br />
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    The consistency in all of your numbers is very impressive! Explains why you shot 70 at Torrey and had the potential for an even lower round. Color me JEALOUS!
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  • pitchinwedgepitchinwedge Members  1556WRX Points: 118Handicap: 7.6Posts: 1,556 Platinum Tees
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    QMany wrote:
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    I think the thing I was most surprised about was the sound of the New 2017 Driver. It reminds me of the last Callaway club I had in the bag, the Razr Hawk Tour. It is muted but solid. I think you can hear it in the videos posted; it is an addicting sound off the face.<br />
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    RHT was also the last Cally club in my bag. Oh my.... I think I'm going to be in love again!
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    I'm not trying to be a dick I'm just genuinely curious.<br />
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    If you have to say "I'm not trying to be a dick" ... well, you know.<br />
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    No need to ruin a great thread.
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  • mackepamackepa #TheWRX Members  3751WRX Points: 295Posts: 3,751 Titanium Tees
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    I'm not trying to be a dick I'm just genuinely curious. I've never had a top-level fitting before, and I worked in a local shop for a long time as a fitter, and with 99.9% of players its really more about just trying to get what feels comfortable and if possible result in more consistent strikes, but to notice a dispersion improvement as a result of the shaft and not random chance is hard<br />
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    That's where you as a fitter need to have the ability to see that your customer is striking a ball poorly because of change in spec. Get the baseline first with their current club and pay attention to their numbers along with their swing. You need to be able to differentiate between bad swings and a poor fit causing bad swings. Nick couldn't take the C-Tapers out of my hands fast enough. He noticed that I wasn't loading the shaft and my tempo increased to try and force the load causing an increase in dispersion.
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  • MtlJeffMtlJeff MontrealMembers  29729WRX Points: 2,674Handicap: 0.0Posts: 29,729 Titanium Tees
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    Look at that divot line from Matt, you know you can use the whole range Q you don't need to just keep backing up! <br />
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    The Callaway guys thanked me for taking such great care of their grass lol (I basically don't take divots)
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