#TheWRX: The EPIC Event at Callaway Golf. 8 Members are treated to TheWRX

Hawkeye77 · Dec 16, 2016

I haven't been able to read all the summaries posted, but quick question: can you share any impressions of Apex Pro and Apex cf 16 if you did any sampling of the irons, and curious if any current Vokey wedge users found any nuggets while testing any particular wedges?

Thanks!

MtlJeff · Dec 16, 2016

Hawkeye77 wrote:

I haven't been able to read all the summaries posted, but quick question: can you share any impressions of Apex Pro and Apex cf 16 if you did any sampling of the irons, and curious if any current Vokey wedge users found any nuggets while testing any particular wedges?

Thanks!

I hit both those irons, I felt the apex was really soft for a bigger club, it's not like it's that massive though. But a soft feeling club.

I actually thought the feel was better than the pro, I just liked the look of the pros better. The pros I hot a lot more, and for a smaller club I got really nice flight and better distance than my Mizunos.

Sean ended up with the regular apex maybe he can chime in

DavePelz4 · Dec 16, 2016

Did anyone go into the trip already playing Cally clubs?

Birko · Dec 16, 2016

I feel this is the right place to share my experiences of Callaway and their fantastic passion and customer service.

I have been fortunate to get to know a couple of people who work for Callaway through mutual friends and was delighted to host them at my club when they were visiting London, where my use of competitors' products was noticed and lightly mocked.

Fast forward a few months, and I was amazed to receive an email offering me a full bag fitting at the Callaway fitting centre just outside of London - now this can't compete with the amazing experience this thread is about - but it was an incredibly special day and everyone I met there was helpful and treated me like a pro.

The upshot of this is that I now have a full bag of Callaway clubs which perform fantastically (though having read this thread it does make me want to try the new driver to see how it compares to the 815 DBD!).

My fitting was not done to gain publicity for Callaway, or for marketing purposes. It was simply a fantastic gesture from someone who has great pride and passion for his company and wanted me to benefit from playing their clubs. I am not going to embarrass him by naming him.

It's easy to be cynical when companies do such promotional things as this trip - but there are lots of similar things (albeit on a smaller scale) which their people do which go under the radar which mean just as much to the individual who receives them.

Callaway are a class act.

Hawkeye77 · Dec 16, 2016

MtlJeff wrote:

Hawkeye77 wrote:

I haven't been able to read all the summaries posted, but quick question: can you share any impressions of Apex Pro and Apex cf 16 if you did any sampling of the irons, and curious if any current Vokey wedge users found any nuggets while testing any particular wedges?

Thanks!

I hit both those irons, I felt the apex was really soft for a bigger club, it's not like it's that massive though. But a soft feeling club.

I actually thought the feel was better than the pro, I just liked the look of the pros better. The pros I hot a lot more, and for a smaller club I got really nice flight and better distance than my Mizunos.

Sean ended up with the regular apex maybe he can chime in

Thanks and would love Sean's input (I'm close to his vintage but not as smooth or sweet) or anyone else on that subject or wedge differences. I love the Legacy Blacks I picked up, and will likely sample the Apex when possible (or see what comes in the fall) and will be thinking of Callaway wedges as well.

dpb5031 · Dec 16, 2016

When will the new drivers be available for pre-order?

I'm playing the current XR16 SZ (awesome stick) and would love to get the new model as soon as it's released so I can bring it on a golf trip to the DR the 1st week in Feb!

Ed Settle · Dec 16, 2016

Great feedback gentlemen! I appreciate that you have shared as much information as you have. I'm sure there is still information that you're waiting on, and stuff you still can't talk about! I think you've done an admirable job of talking around those limitations and still giving us tons of information.

Thank you!

The Chicken Connoisseur · Dec 16, 2016

Why can't you guys say the name of the driver when we have multiple threads with the name already

QMany · Dec 16, 2016

MiamiMonkey wrote:

Why can't you guys say the name of the driver when we have multiple threads with the name already

Callaway asked us not to.

Hot Rod 71 · Dec 16, 2016

MiamiMonkey wrote:

Why can't you guys say the name of the driver when we have multiple threads with the name already

Its called a non-disclosure agreement.....

Doc420 · Dec 16, 2016

dpb5031 wrote:

When will the new drivers be available for pre-order?

I'm playing the current XR16 SZ (awesome stick) and would love to get the new model as soon as it's released so I can bring it on a golf trip to the DR the 1st week in Feb!

I think it comes out January 27

The Chicken Connoisseur · Dec 16, 2016

Hot Rod 71 wrote:

MiamiMonkey wrote:

Why can't you guys say the name of the driver when we have multiple threads with the name already

Its called a non-disclosure agreement.....

A completely useless one at this point...

misplacedtexan83 · Dec 16, 2016

MiamiMonkey wrote:

Hot Rod 71 wrote:

MiamiMonkey wrote:

Why can't you guys say the name of the driver when we have multiple threads with the name already

Its called a non-disclosure agreement.....

A completely useless one at this point...

The same thing could be said about your posts today..

Hairpie · Dec 16, 2016

MiamiMonkey wrote:

Hot Rod 71 wrote:

MiamiMonkey wrote:

Why can't you guys say the name of the driver when we have multiple threads with the name already

Its called a non-disclosure agreement.....

A completely useless one at this point...

But one that genuine people honor...

ChrisSP · Dec 16, 2016

MiamiMonkey wrote:

Hot Rod 71 wrote:

MiamiMonkey wrote:

Why can't you guys say the name of the driver when we have multiple threads with the name already

Its called a non-disclosure agreement.....

A completely useless one at this point...

I bet you're a blast at parties.

MtlJeff · Dec 16, 2016

I don't understand why it's so confusing, they asked us not to mention the name. We are aware the name is out there to hardcore gearheads, so are they. Nevertheless, they asked us not to mention it.

What were we going to say? "no way man, were gonna say it"

There's still a lot of casual fans that do not know the name, and how they want to release the club is their business.

Hot Rod 71 · Dec 16, 2016

MiamiMonkey wrote:

Hot Rod 71 wrote:

MiamiMonkey wrote:

Why can't you guys say the name of the driver when we have multiple threads with the name already

Its called a non-disclosure agreement.....

A completely useless one at this point...

I guess I should just abandon my integrity and betray Callaway to tell you everything because you want me to.......

Palauan Hammer · Dec 16, 2016

HotRod, MtlJeff or anyone of the other guys who have hit both the 815 DBD and the 2017 Drivers, how would compare the 2017 models to 815 DBD?

I would just try a bunch of drivers and look at numbers. I live on island in the middle of nowhere so there are no launch monitors, plus left handed clubs are almost non existent. I always have to do my best to research, and order blind. Any feedback helps my decision greatly. Thanks in advance!

MtlJeff · Dec 16, 2016

I think the missing aspect of this is that we are in a micro climate of the golf world. There are a lot of people out there who don't know the name, the guys who play 20 rounds a year and arent members here. This is still a major market

Callaway I am assuming wants to control the message to those guys by not having multiple websites release it before they do. Why they want this, I can only guess

But they asked us not to mention it so we are not. It's not really more complicated than that

The Chicken Connoisseur · Dec 16, 2016

I didn't ask why YOU GUYS aren't saying it. Obviously they told you not to. I would do the same if told. I'm questioning why they themselves felt the need to do so

Hot Rod 71 · Dec 16, 2016

Palauan Hammer wrote:

HotRod, MtlJeff or anyone of the other guys who have hit both the 815 DBD and the 2017 Drivers, how would compare the 2017 models to 815 DBD?

I would just try a bunch of drivers and look at numbers. I live on island in the middle of nowhere so there are no launch monitors, plus left handed clubs are almost non existent. I always have to do my best to research, and order blind. Any feedback helps my decision greatly. Thanks in advance!

I have both 815 and 816 DBD drivers and the new 2017 drivers are much better. MOI is much higher, even on the low spin version. To me they also look, feel, and sound better.

Better performance and more forgiveness are an easy sell.

MtlJeff · Dec 16, 2016

They didn't explicitly tell us why, just that they wanted to release it a certain way, and for us to respect that.

Harry had lunch with us at HQ and we did ask him, but he was in and out on calls so we didn't have a long drill down on it

He just said they wanted to do the launch a certain way and that's why they asked sites not to reveal the name.

Hot Rod 71 · Dec 16, 2016

MiamiMonkey wrote:

Why can't you guys say the name of the driver when we have multiple threads with the name already

MiamiMonkey wrote:

I didn't ask why YOU GUYS aren't saying it. Obviously they told you not to. I would do the same if told. I'm questioning why they themselves felt the need to do so

Read your original post. You certainly did ask why WE couldn't say it. This has been a really good thread, please don't troll it.

Palauan Hammer · Dec 16, 2016

Hot Rod 71 wrote:

Palauan Hammer wrote:

HotRod, MtlJeff or anyone of the other guys who have hit both the 815 DBD and the 2017 Drivers, how would compare the 2017 models to 815 DBD?

I would just try a bunch of drivers and look at numbers. I live on island in the middle of nowhere so there are no launch monitors, plus left handed clubs are almost non existent. I always have to do my best to research, and order blind. Any feedback helps my decision greatly. Thanks in advance!

I have both 815 and 816 DBD drivers and the new 2017 drivers are much better. MOI is much higher, even on the low spin version. To me they also look, feel, and sound better.

Better performance and more forgiveness are an easy sell.

Sounds like a no brainer then haha!

Schnee · Dec 16, 2016

MiamiMonkey wrote:

I didn't ask why YOU GUYS aren't saying it. Obviously they told you not to. I would do the same if told. I'm questioning why they themselves felt the need to do so

Because they as a company want to control the release of their product line. Part of that is revealing the name.

mixxedbag · Dec 16, 2016

Schnee wrote:

MiamiMonkey wrote:

I didn't ask why YOU GUYS aren't saying it. Obviously they told you not to. I would do the same if told. I'm questioning why they themselves felt the need to do so

Because they as a company want to control the release of their product line. Part of that is revealing the name.

Pretty sure Callaway's twitter and the magazine ads saying #EpicIsComing have revealed that.

QMany · Dec 16, 2016

I believe it is just to drive up the hype. A buildup from USGA confirming list that was deliberately earlier than usual to a late January release.

If people are talking about why we can't say the name, they are at least talking about their new product.

I may not agree with it and may think it is a little dumb, but they are experts at what they do, market golf clubs.

The Chicken Connoisseur · Dec 16, 2016

Hot Rod 71 wrote:

MiamiMonkey wrote:

Why can't you guys say the name of the driver when we have multiple threads with the name already

MiamiMonkey wrote:

I didn't ask why YOU GUYS aren't saying it. Obviously they told you not to. I would do the same if told. I'm questioning why they themselves felt the need to do so

Read your original post. You certainly did ask why WE couldn't say it. This has been a really good thread, please don't troll it.

The implication was why THEY told you not to say it. Obviously you were told, it's not like you guys collectively made a decision lol

misplacedtexan83 · Dec 16, 2016

We all know it's dumb or at least think it.

However, I have been along for the ride since "picturegate" and I ain't getting off till the end.

#TheWRX: The EPIC Event at Callaway Golf. 8 Members are treated to TheWRX

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