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The Wizard Short Game Technique Videos(merged)

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  • EtzwaneEtzwane Members  248WRX Points: 79Posts: 248 Fairways
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    I'd say that the setup needs a bit of work: ball position possibly not forward enough (camera angle seems a bit off and tilted so I can't say for sure), handle too centered and possibly grip. It looks like there a little bit of lateral head movement in the stroke.
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  • tombombtombomb Members  25WRX Points: 27Handicap: 9.4Posts: 25 Bunkers
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    Etzwane wrote:
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    I'd say that the setup needs a bit of work: ball position possibly not forward enough (camera angle seems a bit off and tilted so I can't say for sure), handle too centered and possibly grip. It looks like there a little bit of lateral head movement in the stroke.<br />
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    thanks for the reply. Putting the ball even further forward is going to feel very strange indeed! Regarding the handle...do you think I need more forward shaft lean? Ill work on keeping my head still, thanks again
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  • tombombtombomb Members  25WRX Points: 27Handicap: 9.4Posts: 25 Bunkers
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    Does the Callaway PM grind work ok with this technique?
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  • EtzwaneEtzwane Members  248WRX Points: 79Posts: 248 Fairways
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    tombomb wrote:
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    Etzwane wrote:
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    I'd say that the setup needs a bit of work: ball position possibly not forward enough (camera angle seems a bit off and tilted so I can't say for sure), handle too centered and possibly grip. It looks like there a little bit of lateral head movement in the stroke.<br />
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    thanks for the reply. Putting the ball even further forward is going to feel very strange indeed! Regarding the handle...do you think I need more forward shaft lean? Ill work on keeping my head still, thanks again<br />
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    Ball should be around low point and shaft in line with leading arm so not much shaft lean.<br />
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    I suspect that if you contact Dan you could purchase his videos, they show the basic setup and shot and then all the adaptations needed for various shots, that's where the core of the system is.
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  •  Dave D Dave D Members  4050WRX Points: 204Handicap: 0.0Posts: 4,050 Titanium Tees
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    tombomb wrote:
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    I want these videos so badly haha, they sound fantastic and look to of helped so many people. I'm going out to Spain tomorrow for 4 days to play golf and my short game is in pieces. Its a real shame I cant get hold of these so I can watch them on my flight over. I am fatting and thinning everything. I have read through this entire thread trying to pickup on a few tips, here is a video of me chipping in my garden trying to incorporate the technique that I have picked up from previous posts in this thread.<br />
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    Please excuse the messy garden, its been a cold winter over here in England! Ill book a lesson up when I get back from my trip. I did 3 chips FO and 3 DL.<br />
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    If anybody spots anything that im doing horribly wrong that could help me out in spain I would appreciate the feedback. If it is not acceptable to ask for such help here please let me know and I will remove the post.<br />
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    regards,<br />
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    tom<br />
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    u could buy them, download them and stick them on your phone or tablet?
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  • nelder89nelder89 Members  4WRX Points: 10Handicap: 11Posts: 4 Starters
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    Great thread!!
    Looking forward to trying this technique when home from working away.

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  • DLev45DLev45 Members  458WRX Points: 275Handicap: 6.5Posts: 458 Greens
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    @iteachgolf, for a stock chip/short pitch using your shallow/bounce technique, am I better off using my Ping Glide 2.0 Stealth 54/SS (12* listed bounce) or 58/ES (8* listed bounce) for these shots, and would you open the face at all on either?

    I know there are lots of people who advocate for using a 56* for chips/pitches instead of a 60*, but less conversation about 54* v. 58*.

    I am a 7hc FWIW.

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    • Ping Glide 2.0 Stealth (54/SS, 58/ES), Ping AWT 2.0 Wedge
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  • iteachgolfiteachgolf Members  17198WRX Points: 1,451Posts: 17,198 Titanium Tees
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    54* in your setup would be more forgiving. Slightly open

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  • BigEx44BigEx44 Members  382WRX Points: 120Handicap: 9.2Posts: 382 Greens
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    I have a 56 degree SW with 10 degrees of bounce.

    Would I be better off with a 56 SW with 12 degrees of bounce? Or is 10 degrees of bounce enough?

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  • iteachgolfiteachgolf Members  17198WRX Points: 1,451Posts: 17,198 Titanium Tees
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    It’s not just higher bounce. It’s where the bounce is located and the shape of the sole. I prefer steep initial bounce angle that peaks in the middle with a lot of heel and trailing edge relief. Hence my preference for the V grind wedge

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  • DLev45DLev45 Members  458WRX Points: 275Handicap: 6.5Posts: 458 Greens
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    This was part of my inquiry a few posts up with the Ping Glide 2.0 Stealth 58/ES (8* bounce) and 54/SS (12* bounce). The ES obviously has less listed bounce, but I wasn't sure what effect the difference in grind would make.

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    • Ping G400 Max 10.5, Ping Alta CB 55 Stiff (44.5")
    • Ping G410 SFT 3W, Ping Alta CB 65 Stiff
    • Ping G 3h/4h, Ping Alta 70 Regular
    • Callaway Apex CF16 (5-GW), TT XP 95 R300
    • Ping Glide 2.0 Stealth (54/SS, 58/ES), Ping AWT 2.0 Wedge
    • TaylorMade Spider X Navy, 35"

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  • iteachgolfiteachgolf Members  17198WRX Points: 1,451Posts: 17,198 Titanium Tees
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    One more potentially dumb question that I'm sure you've answered 100 times - When you set up to use the bounce for a chip/short pitch and you say slightly open the face to engage more bounce, do you then need to aim slightly left of target to account for the face angle?

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    • Ping G400 Max 10.5, Ping Alta CB 55 Stiff (44.5")
    • Ping G410 SFT 3W, Ping Alta CB 65 Stiff
    • Ping G 3h/4h, Ping Alta 70 Regular
    • Callaway Apex CF16 (5-GW), TT XP 95 R300
    • Ping Glide 2.0 Stealth (54/SS, 58/ES), Ping AWT 2.0 Wedge
    • TaylorMade Spider X Navy, 35"

  • iteachgolfiteachgolf Members  17198WRX Points: 1,451Posts: 17,198 Titanium Tees
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    depends on handle height. If handle is high yes you need to aim a bit left

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  • DivdevilDivdevil Members  54WRX Points: 51Posts: 54 Bunkers
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    Are these videos still available somewhere? I’ve incorporated the tight lies chip with success, but would love to use this method for my entire chipping game. I’m sure there are videos somewhere in this thread, but all of them together somewhere would be helpful. Thanks.

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  • glkglk send it in jerome Kodak, Tn/Chucktown, Sc via Chicago & BurghMembers  4272WRX Points: 782Posts: 4,272 Titanium Tees
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    Enjoy every sandwich.

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  • ebrasmus21ebrasmus21 Serial Shanker CAMembers  6288WRX Points: 2,036Handicap: 2.7Posts: 6,288 Titanium Tees
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    @iteachgolf are you pro using the hands chipping out to you like taking the hands/wrists out of most short shots around the green?

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  • iteachgolfiteachgolf Members  17198WRX Points: 1,451Posts: 17,198 Titanium Tees
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    Hands are always used. It’s just to what degree for what shot

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  • DivdevilDivdevil Members  54WRX Points: 51Posts: 54 Bunkers
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    I’m working on these videos and hoping to implement them fully. I’m also looking to buy new 52, 56, and 60 wedges. Any particular set that works best with this approach? Sorry if it’s been covered already.

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  • DivdevilDivdevil Members  54WRX Points: 51Posts: 54 Bunkers
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    Also, when you are chipping from tight lies with an 8 or 9 iron, do you use the same form? Raised grip, front ball position, and putter stroke? Is there a video covering that along with longer (40 yards) pitches? Thansk.

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  • glkglk send it in jerome Kodak, Tn/Chucktown, Sc via Chicago & BurghMembers  4272WRX Points: 782Posts: 4,272 Titanium Tees
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    You’ll find some info in this recent thread and if you have the patience I’m certain that somewhere in this thread wedges and their setup has been discussed. FYI virtually every pro uses one (maybe 2) wedges for their short game shots including pitching. Learn the technique and you can get a 60 or 56 to do pretty much any shot you want. I have dans ( he uses his 60*) videos and also James ridyard - ridyard has more detail, imo and includes approach wedges,scrambling, bunker play and if you get the 5 set (which includes putting and green reading) you also get a video on drills/ games and 7 deadly situations - https://shortgamesecrets.tv/

    another good option is to see dan in person.

    good luck

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    Enjoy every sandwich.

  • MiggaletoeMiggaletoe Members  188WRX Points: 73Posts: 188 Fairways
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    Everything is nearly the same for me. Ball forward thumbs down finish.

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  • royourboatroyourboat Members  474WRX Points: 80Posts: 474 Greens
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    How much does lie/grass have to do with trajectory?

    I can't figure out why I go from a rockstar on better courses where I feel like I have to open the face on the 60 to get finesse wedges to fly above the knee and not stop on a dime.. and then practicing at my local course, shorter chips go above the head and roll out.

    I guess it's breakdown of the trail arm and the technique, but it seems so odd to go from day to day course to course and have very little day to day control when on each day I am easily consistent but totally different flight/spin.

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    I like to tee the ball up.. using man sized clubs.


    mothman65 wrote:

    Is Melbourne getting any closer to happening Momte?


    Still need some more, but it's pretty likely I'll come. Just don't know when yet.
  • iteachgolfiteachgolf Members  17198WRX Points: 1,451Posts: 17,198 Titanium Tees
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    Grass and lie matters a lot. Friction matters a ton

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  • royourboatroyourboat Members  474WRX Points: 80Posts: 474 Greens
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    So assuming it is not technique but the lie/grass, do you have a recommendation of how to handle the course that doesn't seem to allow low spinners? Do I go back to 56 or a bump and run, or learn touch without the traj/spin with the LW?

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    I like to tee the ball up.. using man sized clubs.


    mothman65 wrote:

    Is Melbourne getting any closer to happening Momte?


    Still need some more, but it's pretty likely I'll come. Just don't know when yet.
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  • mcputtermcputter Members  1061WRX Points: 239Handicap: 0.9Posts: 1,061 Platinum Tees
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    Dan, with Vokey possibly not offering the V grind even through Wedgeworks, what other grind or make/model would you recommend? What about the Vokey D grind?

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    D with More trailing edge relief is very close to a V. X grind from callaway is close

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  • royourboatroyourboat Members  474WRX Points: 80Posts: 474 Greens
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    iteach, are you saying high traj is fine (when it is not required)?

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    I like to tee the ball up.. using man sized clubs.


    mothman65 wrote:

    Is Melbourne getting any closer to happening Momte?


    Still need some more, but it's pretty likely I'll come. Just don't know when yet.
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