Uncut Iron Shaft Pullouts

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snipzky9snipzky9 SeattleClubWRX  470WRX Points: 46Posts: 470 ClubWRX
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Quick question in regards to rules 8/9. I bought a set of new iron shafts and installed them in a set of irons but decided after install and before cutting the shafts that I wanted a different set of shafts. Given that I have now pulled the shafts can I list them on the bst? The shafts have been cleaned up (ferrules removed, epoxy sanded off and cleaned out) and clearly show tip prep but would they be in violation of the rules below as they were not butt cut or tip cut as they are .355 taper tip?



8. Pullouts - please remove grip to make sure the shaft is not plugged or extended. Measure accurately. Provide tipping information if known.

9. No selling of new uninstalled shafts. Shaft must be cut, prepped and tipped. Either butt cut or tip cut. Adapters must be installed and shafts cannot be advertised as new.



Thank you
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  • GolfrnutGolfrnut Members  7638WRX Points: 453Posts: 7,638 Titanium Tees
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    I asked the same question before, and was told they all needed to be cut down in some way and were not allowed to be raw lengths.
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  • lebanontngolferlebanontngolfer short and to the left ClubWRX  3061WRX Points: 146Posts: 3,061 Titanium Tees
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    8. Pullouts - please remove grip to make sure the shaft is not plugged or extended. Measure accurately. Provide tipping information if known.

    9. No selling of new uninstalled shafts. Shaft must be cut, prepped and tipped. Either butt cut or tip cut. Adapters must be installed and shafts cannot be advertised as new.





    If they have been installed in heads, and then removed, by definition they cannot be considered to be a "new uninstalled" shaft, so #9 should not apply. Otherwise, any shaft pulled before it was ever hit would have to be governed by the same rule, and we all know new un-hit shafts are sold every day on the BST. And yes, some of them have been sold straight from the OEM installed in heads, but uncut and without a grip ever being installed.



    Your shafts should be considered a "pullout" to which rule #8 applies. Just because you did not finish butt cutting them and putting a grip on does not make them a "new uninstalled" shaft.



    Rule #9 (or its predecessors) has always been aimed at preventing the sale of new, uncut, uninstalled shafts that would not be warranted by an OE due to improper installation, warranty violation, undercutting of licensed/official reps, etc.



    Of course, that is just my humble opinion.
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  • SheriffBoothSheriffBooth Marshals, BST Volunteer Mods  4507WRX Points: 295Handicap: 4.0Posts: 4,507 Marshals
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    lebanontngolfer is exactly correct
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  • snipzky9snipzky9 SeattleClubWRX  470WRX Points: 46Posts: 470 ClubWRX
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    Ok perfect. Thank you both!
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    lebanontngolfer is exactly correct




    Sounds like a site position to me!
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  • NessismNessism To measure is to know... Members  19535WRX Points: 1,615Posts: 19,535 Titanium Tees
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    Holy crap man, you gotta be lawyer to understand the BST rules. It's time for Golfwrx to get rid of the silly "no selling of new shafts" rule. The argument that has been presented in the past, namely that the shaft is not fit to the person, holds no water. We have brand new clubs being sold every day that are not fit to the person, and companies like Golfworks sell new shafts by the thousands. Let the clubmaker type guys that purchase shafts figure out what's best for them. We don't need some nanny oversight on this matter.
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  • GolfrnutGolfrnut Members  7638WRX Points: 453Posts: 7,638 Titanium Tees
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    Seems to be a bit of disparity here?



    This is the response I was given when I asked roughly the same question.



    http://www.golfwrx.c...o-list-the-bst/


    Not if they're new. All shafts must be prepped and tip or butt trimmed to length.




    Perhaps it's time to at least provide some clarification in the BST rules?
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  • JagpilotohioJagpilotohio 45+ inch drivers are evil. Columbus, OHMembers  7281WRX Points: 588Handicap: 1.8Posts: 7,281 Titanium Tees
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    I like the rule. Only "used" shafts allowed. I don't want BST to become a space for retailers to dump their new stuff....ever. There are plenty of other websites to find new stuff.



    Any pullout, butt cut or not, is a "used" shaft. I don't find it confusing.
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  • SheriffBoothSheriffBooth Marshals, BST Volunteer Mods  4507WRX Points: 295Handicap: 4.0Posts: 4,507 Marshals
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    Golfrnut wrote:


    Seems to be a bit of disparity here?



    This is the response I was given when I asked roughly the same question.



    http://www.golfwrx.c...o-list-the-bst/


    Not if they're new. All shafts must be prepped and tip or butt trimmed to length.




    Perhaps it's time to at least provide some clarification in the BST rules?




    Your question was about a set of new shafts where only one had ever been installed. You could sell that one pullout here, but not the new uninstalled shafts.



    This question is about an entire set of pullouts. They can be sold here.



    As to Nessism's question, Golfworks or Golf Galaxy or wherever buy their shafts from licensed distributors. Prior to your joining the site there was a significant issue of unscrupulous members selling new shafts as though the BST was some sort of black market. It's not, and we work hard that it doesn't become that. eBay and alibaba and a whole host of other places are available for that. I'm not saying that BST is perfect in all ways, but it's also not the Wild West. Not sure what you're talking about with regard to the shaft being fitted - our rules have nothing to do with that.
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