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  • longballjslongballjs New JerseyMembers  1516WRX Points: 149Handicap: 2.4Posts: 1,516 Platinum Tees
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    I didn't think the rife putters had the same grooves as evnroll, I think they are all symmetrical in rife
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    Your correct, but my inquiry has nothing to do with advertising, I simply asked who plays them. Besides, Playing their putter in a televised golf tournament makes it an obvious discovery that they should be able to discuss based on a direct request for information.




    It is still using a players name without their permission and a form of advertising.



    As to why I don't think pros are using the putter. The center of the face is designed to not hit the ball as far as the edges of the putters. I read a comment from Sean Toulon about a putter he had a pro try and the player told him that it was a nice putter but it was too hot off the face and rolled the ball too far. IMO Pros have grooved their stroke lengths for certain distances and by playing an EVNRoll putter, they don't get the same roll they are used too.
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  • sleuthsleuth Members  700WRX Points: 89Posts: 700 Golden Tee
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    I love Rife putters, so EVNROLL was a natural progression for me. I haven't used the Guerin Design putters with the wave groove technology, but I find it hard to believe that grooves make a large difference outside of feel.



    I hear the groove debate a lot in wedges and most agree that it's simply helpful to clear debris. I recall conversations about Maltby saying grooveless wedges/irons will still impart a significant amount of spin. If true - why are grooves so drastically different in putters? This I cannot answer, but something that nags me time to time when I see all this forward roll talk. I don't think there is a right answer to this one, and the same no win debate as ball compression.



    Just play it if you like it.
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  • Calif_MulliganCalif_Mulligan Members  259WRX Points: 0Posts: 259
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    longballjs wrote:


    I didn't think the rife putters had the same grooves as evnroll, I think they are all symmetrical in rife




    'Guerin Design Putters Company' of Carlsbad is not Rife...which is located in Seattle.
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    I just played my third round with my ER2. I had 38 putts that included 3 three-putts and a four-putt. Those bad putts were all on me. Where this putter shines is distance control from putts outside 15 feet. I had quite a few tap-ins on top of those bad putt showings. The ER2 is a solid putter for me. More so than my O-works #9.
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    Who cares what the pros play. If you did you would be playing a beat up piece of junk like Sneds plays.
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    nosil wrote:



    Your correct, but my inquiry has nothing to do with advertising, I simply asked who plays them. Besides, Playing their putter in a televised golf tournament makes it an obvious discovery that they should be able to discuss based on a direct request for information.




    It is still using a players name without their permission and a form of advertising.



    As to why I don't think pros are using the putter. The center of the face is designed to not hit the ball as far as the edges of the putters. I read a comment from Sean Toulon about a putter he had a pro try and the player told him that it was a nice putter but it was too hot off the face and rolled the ball too far. IMO Pros have grooved their stroke lengths for certain distances and by playing an EVNRoll putter, they don't get the same roll they are used too.


    The groves are designed to hit the ball the same distance no matter where you hit it on the face. Toe or heel strikes loose distance the groves make up for that. The middle of the face where the grooves are the widest actually absorbs energy.
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    Yzmerf wrote:

    nosil wrote:



    Your correct, but my inquiry has nothing to do with advertising, I simply asked who plays them. Besides, Playing their putter in a televised golf tournament makes it an obvious discovery that they should be able to discuss based on a direct request for information.




    It is still using a players name without their permission and a form of advertising.



    As to why I don't think pros are using the putter. The center of the face is designed to not hit the ball as far as the edges of the putters. I read a comment from Sean Toulon about a putter he had a pro try and the player told him that it was a nice putter but it was too hot off the face and rolled the ball too far. IMO Pros have grooved their stroke lengths for certain distances and by playing an EVNRoll putter, they don't get the same roll they are used too.


    The groves are designed to hit the ball the same distance no matter where you hit it on the face. Toe or heel strikes loose distance the groves make up for that. The middle of the face where the grooves are the widest actually absorbs energy.




    Yes, I realize that. The grooved in the middle make a 20 foot putt roll lets say 19 feet and the offcenter hits roll 19 feet making them roll the same. A pro thinking they are hitting a putt 20 feet that only goes 19 will create issues.
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  • YzmerfYzmerf Lake Elsinore, CAMembers  760WRX Points: 134Handicap: 3.2Posts: 760 Golden Tee
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    nosil wrote:

    Yzmerf wrote:

    nosil wrote:



    Your correct, but my inquiry has nothing to do with advertising, I simply asked who plays them. Besides, Playing their putter in a televised golf tournament makes it an obvious discovery that they should be able to discuss based on a direct request for information.




    It is still using a players name without their permission and a form of advertising.



    As to why I don't think pros are using the putter. The center of the face is designed to not hit the ball as far as the edges of the putters. I read a comment from Sean Toulon about a putter he had a pro try and the player told him that it was a nice putter but it was too hot off the face and rolled the ball too far. IMO Pros have grooved their stroke lengths for certain distances and by playing an EVNRoll putter, they don't get the same roll they are used too.


    The groves are designed to hit the ball the same distance no matter where you hit it on the face. Toe or heel strikes loose distance the groves make up for that. The middle of the face where the grooves are the widest actually absorbs energy.




    Yes, I realize that. The grooved in the middle make a 20 foot putt roll lets say 19 feet and the offcenter hits roll 19 feet making them roll the same. A pro thinking they are hitting a putt 20 feet that only goes 19 will create issues.




    So you are saying they cant adjust? There is an adjustment period just like any other putter but one you have the center dialed in, you also have slight mishits as well. If your speed is right you will catch more edges and more will fall.

    By the way, noticed the Evnroll bag on the green at Sawgrass, just a matter of time.
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  • nosilnosil Members  798WRX Points: 67Posts: 798 Golden Tee
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    Yzmerf wrote:

    nosil wrote:

    Yzmerf wrote:

    nosil wrote:



    Your correct, but my inquiry has nothing to do with advertising, I simply asked who plays them. Besides, Playing their putter in a televised golf tournament makes it an obvious discovery that they should be able to discuss based on a direct request for information.




    It is still using a players name without their permission and a form of advertising.



    As to why I don't think pros are using the putter. The center of the face is designed to not hit the ball as far as the edges of the putters. I read a comment from Sean Toulon about a putter he had a pro try and the player told him that it was a nice putter but it was too hot off the face and rolled the ball too far. IMO Pros have grooved their stroke lengths for certain distances and by playing an EVNRoll putter, they don't get the same roll they are used too.


    The groves are designed to hit the ball the same distance no matter where you hit it on the face. Toe or heel strikes loose distance the groves make up for that. The middle of the face where the grooves are the widest actually absorbs energy.




    Yes, I realize that. The grooved in the middle make a 20 foot putt roll lets say 19 feet and the offcenter hits roll 19 feet making them roll the same. A pro thinking they are hitting a putt 20 feet that only goes 19 will create issues.




    So you are saying they cant adjust? There is an adjustment period just like any other putter but one you have the center dialed in, you also have slight mishits as well. If your speed is right you will catch more edges and more will fall.



    By the way, noticed the Evnroll bag on the green at Sawgrass, just a matter of time.




    No, not saying they can't adjust. Please reference my comment regarding Sean Toulon's discussion with professional players; they would prefer not too.
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  • YzmerfYzmerf Lake Elsinore, CAMembers  760WRX Points: 134Handicap: 3.2Posts: 760 Golden Tee
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    I guess I can't fathom that kind of touch.
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    Very nice line of putters, but not a high probability of being around in two years unless one of the big boys purchases them. His first company, Rife, was around 3 years (?) before almost going bankrupt, basically ceasing operations and later being sold to Innovex. Golf equipment market is just too competitive for most small industry players like this.
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    Very nice line of putters, but not a high probability of being around in two years unless one of the big boys purchases them. His first company, Rife, was around 3 years (?) before almost going bankrupt, basically ceasing operations and later being sold to Innovex. Golf equipment market is just too competitive for most small industry players like this.




    Rife started selling putters in 2005 or 06
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    lawsonman wrote:



    Very nice line of putters, but not a high probability of being around in two years unless one of the big boys purchases them. His first company, Rife, was around 3 years (?) before almost going bankrupt, basically ceasing operations and later being sold to Innovex. Golf equipment market is just too competitive for most small industry players like this.




    Rife started selling putters in 2005 or 06




    Rife as a company by Guerin Rife and investors ceased to exist after it shutdown operations in late 2009. What you have now is a brand, that was purchased in early 2010 by Innovex. Guerin Rife nor any of the original design team have worked with the Rife product in 8 years.
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  • greenj20greenj20 Grosse Pointe Farms, MIMembers  80WRX Points: 24Handicap: 23.6Posts: 80 Fairways
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    Intersting interview here. Only reason he didn't make it with Rife was Cobra bailing out at the last minute.



    Some good stuff here about how the putters are built and how they are intended to be used. (2 dots for a reason). Love my ER2.
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    I like them because they are a very tingy, old ping like feel, which I have an affinity to. Can be found for a much more reasonable price now too. Just picked up a brand new ER5 for $209 shipped.
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    I love my ER5 hatchback. Weight is perfect for me and I have reduced my number of 3 putts.
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    Agreed, don’t judge the quality on tour usage. But also let’s be realistic that changing the surface area as you progress from center to off center is not going to fully mitigate the energy loss from hitting it off center. Been on quintic myself and see the effect of off center hits is still really dramatic no matter what putter.
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    Ping requires players to use their putter no ifs and or butts.



    The other Companies are not as rigid. However much is based on the player and how good they are.



    If Phil told Callaway I am playing with _____ Putter he can get away with it. Same thing probably for anyone in the top 50 World rankings at the time they sign their contract. Callaway does require some players to play Odyssey or Toulon putters. Kisner, has played an Odyssey most of his career (at least since I met him right out of college other than when he played a SSB Custom for two years) so I am not sure where the line is.



    Bottom line is players have more leeway with putters than any other club. However EVNROLL has very little to no presence on the PGA tour so far. I know they have been to a couple of events, and they have spent a bunch of time on the Champions and LPGA tours. They have a win by a LPGA player. Rife putters started and really made their name on the LPGA and Champions tour, seems to reason they would start their this time around too. I do know a couple of PGA players have orders in for special EVNROLLS. The problem is EVNROLL cannot announce anything since they are not paying people.




    Tony Finau is a PING player but uses a Piretti Putter.
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    To the original OP they are on tour FYI but money is the game my friend they do not pay to play and unfortunately many pros require pay to play it’s that simple. And secondly the feel is subjective especially in putters imo Scotty’s are overrated yet a lot of p,Ayers use the, because of money. Now Scotty’s would be played even if they didn’t pay pros but no where the percentages in play if he did t offer money. It’s that simple...
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    Maximilian wrote:


    I don't really get that. I'm on Seemore's mailing list and any time Zach Johnson does anything of interest they send out an email about it, but they never use his name. I don't understand why they can't?


    Zach is a staff member Evnroll does not have the right to release players names
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    I had a TR Anser and the feel was too muted, not for me. Nice clickety smack off a fine mill is where it's at.
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    One of the main reasons for the number of Scotty Cameron putters on tour is their fitting and and ability to mill what a player wants. Most smaller companies can’t compete with that aspect of putter building. He has the most experience in that regard. That makes him valuable to tour players beyond what a small manufacturer can give. The putter may not be that much better than anything else out there but the fitting is.
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    One of the main reasons for the number of Scotty Cameron putters on tour is their fitting and and ability to mill what a player wants. Most smaller companies can’t compete with that aspect of putter building. He has the most experience in that regard. That makes him valuable to tour players beyond what a small manufacturer can give. The putter may not be that much better than anything else out there but the fitting is.




    You forgot one main point Scotty pays to play. I promise you I have some good friends in the golf industry and the smaller companies have the same resources as Scotty. Money money money is the key missing word.
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    woods991 wrote:



    One of the main reasons for the number of Scotty Cameron putters on tour is their fitting and and ability to mill what a player wants. Most smaller companies can’t compete with that aspect of putter building. He has the most experience in that regard. That makes him valuable to tour players beyond what a small manufacturer can give. The putter may not be that much better than anything else out there but the fitting is.




    You forgot one main point Scotty pays to play. I promise you I have some good friends in the golf industry and the smaller companies have the same resources as Scotty. Money money money is the key missing word.




    Scotty does not do pay for play. Titlest may pay for a full bag but Scotty has said many times he doesn’t pay anybody to use his putters.
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    noodle3872 wrote:

    woods991 wrote:



    One of the main reasons for the number of Scotty Cameron putters on tour is their fitting and and ability to mill what a player wants. Most smaller companies can’t compete with that aspect of putter building. He has the most experience in that regard. That makes him valuable to tour players beyond what a small manufacturer can give. The putter may not be that much better than anything else out there but the fitting is.




    You forgot one main point Scotty pays to play. I promise you I have some good friends in the golf industry and the smaller companies have the same resources as Scotty. Money money money is the key missing word.




    Scotty does not do pay for play. Titlest may pay for a full bag but Scotty has said many times he doesn’t pay anybody to use his putters.




    A good jr player who is ranked can go to Scotty’s fitting center and get treated like a pro. I personally know two who have. I don’t know for sure but suspect they didn’t pay for the service. It builds a tremendous amount of loyalty.
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    noodle3872 wrote:

    woods991 wrote:



    One of the main reasons for the number of Scotty Cameron putters on tour is their fitting and and ability to mill what a player wants. Most smaller companies can’t compete with that aspect of putter building. He has the most experience in that regard. That makes him valuable to tour players beyond what a small manufacturer can give. The putter may not be that much better than anything else out there but the fitting is.




    You forgot one main point Scotty pays to play. I promise you I have some good friends in the golf industry and the smaller companies have the same resources as Scotty. Money money money is the key missing word.




    Scotty does not do pay for play. Titlest may pay for a full bag but Scotty has said many times he doesn’t pay anybody to use his putters.




    Titleist pays to play which owns Scotty
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    Pros hit the sweet spot every time, do you?
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    I like my ER2 putter, the tech seems to work very
    well. Great feel and consistant roll on putts.
    Seem to make my fair share, if not, usually left with a tap in.

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    Having watched many videos with pros on youtube about their equipment and "what's in the bag", it surprises me how little they know about the technology behind their clubs. A lot of them seem to use clubs based primarily on looks and feel and "this is what I'm used to" so it doesn't surprise me at all that Evnroll hasn't got a foothold on the PGA tour. Whether it's contract or money based, these guys don't know or even want to know the tech behind Evnroll or any other putter for that matter. Basically I wouldn't measure Evnroll by how many tour pros use them for this reason.

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