2017 Travelers Championship at Hartford

[baaron008]

23 years old and 10 victories. 10 victories alone would be considered a good career.

 

impressive but too many john deere type tournaments in that resume plus the two majors.

 

Ten wins before age 24. Tiger, Jordan, Jack. Folks keep telling me on this site that player depth is better than it's ever been, but apparently that doesn't apply when Spieth wins.

 

Lots of Spieth Derangement Syndrome 'round here.

 

For real. Only 90 golfers all time have more wins than Jordan on the PGA tour.

[cvvorst]

 

 

Spieth is the luckiest golfer I have ever seen. Hit a tree off the tee? No problem. Ball always bounces back to the fairway.

 

 

How can you make a remark like that after spieth makes an amazing sand shot? That's all skill. I've seen your posts in the past, I'm not sure why you don't like Spieth, but your bias is clear.

 

Nope. Don't have anything against the guy personally. Don't know him. Like the announcers mentioned, the ball could have gone out of bounds. And his luck had nothing to do with the bunker shot. I just call 'em the way I see 'em. Spieth is a super lucky guy. I am not the only one who notices either.

 

I get it, I disagree, but I get it.

 

I really disagree on the luck thing though. That discounts the skill and amount of time these pros have put into their game.

 

There's a reason the best golfers in the game get more "lucky" than other's. And it has nothing to do with luck.

 

I am not trying to argue with you, but your skill comment is way off. According to that, Spieth planned to hit it into the tree so it would bounce back out giving him over 200 to the green. Right? When I talk about luck, I am talking about bad shots that get much better results than they deserve, or shots that defy odds. Spieth's drive was really bad, but he got away with it with the ball in the fairway no less. That is just pure luck. I do agree with you to some extent about practice/luck though.

 

Of course spieth didn't plan on hitting that tree. But you can't say he only won because that one lucky break.

 

You may think Spieth is magically lucky, but I guarantee a lot of the top pros are just as "lucky." The only reason you notice it with Spieth is because they show 99% of his shots because he is the most popular golfer not named Tiger.

[baaron008]

Golf is partly a game of luck. It was literally designed that way: the bounce of the fairway on a links course can be a cruel mistress or your best friend.

[swoll cracker]

Spieth wins another. McIlroy shows life in the final round. DJ hopefully finding his form. Guys like Koepka, Thomas, Matsuyama, and Garcia playing well. I think we're in for a fun ride this summer all the way through the Tour Championship.

 

And I'm calling it now. Brandt Snedeker will win the PGA Championship at Quail Hollow.

[PGArox]

Well, that was some great entertainment, although Jordan made it a little more interesting than he had intended. :)

 

Great to see Jordan back in the winner's circle. He really is building what may end up being one of golf's greatest careers.

 

I remember being so thrilled when Phil Mickelson won his 10th TOUR title with a great final round charge at the 1997 (Tiger's first full year) Bay Hill Invitational. Phil was 26 years old.

 

Jordan appears to be one of those guys who sticks around for a long time. I can see him still being a force out there in his mid to late 40's, just like Phil. There is no telling how many titles he may rack up, but it will be fun watching him.

[Sean2]

23 years old and 10 victories. 10 victories alone would be considered a good career.

 

Incredible achievement. Unfortunately he'll not get the credit he deserves in part due to his on course mannerisms but mainly because he's not 330 off the tee.

 

And he doesn't need to be...and he gets that. A couple of years ago he said in a presser that he knows he will never be as long as a Rory, and he isn't going to try to be. I thought that was quite smart...not making a drastic swing change so he can get a few more yards. For most, that usually doesn't work out to well. He's doing fine with the length he has.

[Sean2]

23 years old and 10 victories. 10 victories alone would be considered a good career.

 

Two majors too. I'm always seeing people say 'won't make 20 wins/30 wins' and writing him off so early, but really the sky is the limit for Spieth. He's as good as the greats at this age. At this point, there's about as much chance that he'll win 50-60 as he'll stop winning completely. He should still be 5-6 years off his peak years.

 

I think some folks write him off because his swing is a bit unorthodox and he doesn't hit it as far as some others. He sure heaped a lot of praise on his caddy today. You don't hear many golfers doing that.

[Sean2]

The gladiatorial arrival of these 2 young titans.

 

Nantz is such a putz.

 

I can't believe he said that. I usually watch golf with the sound muted. I don't need to hear what the announcers have to say to know what is going on.

[soap1984]

I haven't been the biggest fan but he seems less whiney on the course the last year or so, I found myself cheering for him recently, including today.

 

Glad he won. His short game is ridiculous, especially in crunch time. After playing a lot of golf, I can't help but respect it.

[Sean2]

23 years old and 10 victories. 10 victories alone would be considered a good career.

 

impressive but too many john deere type tournaments in that resume plus the two majors.

 

Ten wins before age 24. Tiger, Jordan, Jack. Folks keep telling me on this site that player depth is better than it's ever been, but apparently that doesn't apply when Spieth wins.

 

Lots of Spieth Derangement Syndrome 'round here.

 

Between SDS and TDS a lot of derangement going around.

[LittleLeftToRight]

 

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Of course spieth didn't plan on hitting that tree. But you can't say he only won because that one lucky break.

 

You may think Spieth is magically lucky, but I guarantee a lot of the top pros are just as "lucky." The only reason you notice it with Spieth is because they show 99% of his shots because he is the most popular golfer not named Tiger.

 

It was sudden death, so yeah, he did win because the ball bounced into the fairway. That was the only outcome that allowed him to win. If it went ob, he lost. That is the definition of "lucky break". Lol. Still, he hit a good bunker shot, which is how he won.

 

You must be a fan of his because you are not responding to logic, and you are failing to see that in general we agree.

[Sean2]

 

 

Of course spieth didn't plan on hitting that tree. But you can't say he only won because that one lucky break.

 

You may think Spieth is magically lucky, but I guarantee a lot of the top pros are just as "lucky." The only reason you notice it with Spieth is because they show 99% of his shots because he is the most popular golfer not named Tiger.

 

I think most tournament winners will tell you they received a lucky break or two sometime during the tournament.

[cvvorst]

 

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Of course spieth didn't plan on hitting that tree. But you can't say he only won because that one lucky break.

 

You may think Spieth is magically lucky, but I guarantee a lot of the top pros are just as "lucky." The only reason you notice it with Spieth is because they show 99% of his shots because he is the most popular golfer not named Tiger.

 

It was sudden death, so yeah, he did win because the ball bounced into the fairway. That was the only outcome that allowed him to win. If it went ob, he lost. That is the definition of "lucky break". Lol. Still, he hit a good bunker shot, which is how he won.

 

You must be a fan of his because you are not responding to logic, and you are failing to see that in general we agree.

 

 

I don't really get your argument. You keep talking about how Spieth has this mystical quality that makes him lucky, and that without this "luck" he wouldn't win. Where's the logic in that? All I'm trying to say is that the best players don't get lucky so much as they create their own "luck" if that's what you want to call it. I think most on here would agree with me.

 

 

 

 

Edit:"

You must be a fan of his because you are not responding to logic, and you are failing to see that in general we agree."

 

Was this meant to be a joke? Or are you just that confident in your "logic" when talking about a matter of opinion?

[2putttom]

Golf is partly a game of luck. It was literally designed that way: the bounce of the fairway on a links course can be a cruel mistress or your best friend.

true my friend true, coupled with the fact that theses guys really are that good

[buckeyefl]

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Of course spieth didn't plan on hitting that tree. But you can't say he only won because that one lucky break.

 

You may think Spieth is magically lucky, but I guarantee a lot of the top pros are just as "lucky." The only reason you notice it with Spieth is because they show 99% of his shots because he is the most popular golfer not named Tiger.

 

It was sudden death, so yeah, he did win because the ball bounced into the fairway. That was the only outcome that allowed him to win. If it went ob, he lost. That is the definition of "lucky break". Lol. Still, he hit a good bunker shot, which is how he won.

 

You must be a fan of his because you are not responding to logic, and you are failing to see that in general we agree.

 

After your ridiculous comments about luck you get to lecture no one about logic, sir.

[imakaveli]

 

Of course spieth didn't plan on hitting that tree. But you can't say he only won because that one lucky break.

 

You may think Spieth is magically lucky, but I guarantee a lot of the top pros are just as "lucky." The only reason you notice it with Spieth is because they show 99% of his shots because he is the most popular golfer not named Tiger.

 

You really think Jordan Spieth is currently the most popular golfer after Tiger Woods?

[cvvorst]

Of course spieth didn't plan on hitting that tree. But you can't say he only won because that one lucky break.

 

You may think Spieth is magically lucky, but I guarantee a lot of the top pros are just as "lucky." The only reason you notice it with Spieth is because they show 99% of his shots because he is the most popular golfer not named Tiger.

 

You really think Jordan Spieth is currently the most popular golfer after Tiger Woods?

 

Definitely.

 

Edit: I may be biased as I'm a fan, but he is shown more than any other golfer playing. Networks aren't stupid, they know casual fans want to watch Spieth, even when he's not really in contention. (I don't agree with that even being a fan, I like watching the leaders)

[TheGulag]

Did any catch Patrick Reed flattening down the grass behind his ball in the rough on the 4th hole? He took a 3wd and soled it enough to flatten down the grass behind the ball and then took a iron. Yes, I know it may be technically legal but imo against the spirit of the game.

Yeah I noticed that right away since I was just reading a thread about that on here ealier in the day. I kinda looked around the room and was like hold up a second.... Did anyone else see that.... (even though I was watching by myself....)

 

 

Boo, 30 coming in yesterday!?

 

Boo gonna make some cash and go fishin!

Agreed liked him rocking the PFG

 

This may have already been discussed and, if so, I apologize for the repeat, but I've got to say: I'm not comfortable with Boo's style of shirt being accepted within the golf community. That's not a golf shirt - it's a fishing shirt. If he wants to wear hunting and fishing garb, then he needs to head out into the sticks where it belongs. Golf clubs should start re-writing their dress codes to tighten up some of the sloppy attire we're seeing in this new era. I'm going to contact my committee chairman tomorrow and propose some different language for our code to specifically target Columbia-style shirts.

 

I'll also be actively rooting against Boo today and hoping he fails in such miserable fashion that it would discourage any impressionable golfers watching from wanting to adopt his look. I know everyone talks about growing the game, but this isn't a direction in which it needs to grow. Leave the fishing shirts for the lake.

 

I guess we may have to disagree but its hard for me to take someone seriously when they "actively root against someone" I mean hell its one thing to root for someone else but to hope someone fails.... Says a lot about the person saying that... I do imagine you like the smediums that a lot of guys are wearing on Tour now...

[fowlerscousin]

I think phil mickelson is still the most popular active golfer in the world. I think mcilroy is slightly more popular than spieth, but spieth can definitely take some of that popularity away. Mcilroy is so streaky he could win the BO and we will be talking about rory for the next 3 months.

[sheldonjhacker]

The gladiatorial arrival of these 2 young titans.

 

Nantz is such a putz.

[North Texas]

Jordan has missed disaster about 5 times on the back-9. Shocking he still has a chance to win.

 

Spieth is the luckiest golfer I have ever seen. Hit a tree off the tee? No problem. Ball always bounces back to the fairway.

 

 

How can you make a remark like that after spieth makes an amazing sand shot? That's all skill. I've seen your posts in the past, I'm not sure why you don't like Spieth, but your bias is clear.

 

Nope. Don't have anything against the guy personally. Don't know him. Like the announcers mentioned, the ball could have gone out of bounds. And his luck had nothing to do with the bunker shot. I just call 'em the way I see 'em. Spieth is a super lucky guy. I am not the only one who notices either.

 

Nope, you're not the only one who notices. Check this out in the big (60+ pages) Jordan Spieth thread from a few years ago from a poster who went by the handle PuttsLeftHitsRight back on July 15, 2013. Scroll down to post #264. The post and the name sound eerily similar. Coincidence?

 

http://www.golfwrx.c...n/page__st__240

[LittleLeftToRight]

Jordan has missed disaster about 5 times on the back-9. Shocking he still has a chance to win.

 

Spieth is the luckiest golfer I have ever seen. Hit a tree off the tee? No problem. Ball always bounces back to the fairway.

 

 

How can you make a remark like that after spieth makes an amazing sand shot? That's all skill. I've seen your posts in the past, I'm not sure why you don't like Spieth, but your bias is clear.

 

Nope. Don't have anything against the guy personally. Don't know him. Like the announcers mentioned, the ball could have gone out of bounds. And his luck had nothing to do with the bunker shot. I just call 'em the way I see 'em. Spieth is a super lucky guy. I am not the only one who notices either.

 

Nope, you're not the only one who notices. Check this out in the big (60+ pages) Jordan Spieth thread from a few years ago from a poster who went by the handle PuttsLeftHitsRight back on July 15, 2013. Scroll down to post #264. The post and the name sound eerily similar. Coincidence?

 

http://www.golfwrx.c...n/page__st__240

 

Not me.

 

Eerily! Didn't know it was strange and frightening to have a similar name to someone. This a horror movie or a golf forum? Lol. Vaguely, yes. Eerily, no. Coincidence? Yes.

[JonnyKrasnodar]

23 years old and 10 victories. 10 victories alone would be considered a good career.

 

Incredible achievement. Unfortunately he'll not get the credit he deserves in part due to his on course mannerisms but mainly because he's not 330 off the tee.

 

And he doesn't need to be...and he gets that. A couple of years ago he said in a presser that he knows he will never be as long as a Rory, and he isn't going to try to be. I thought that was quite smart...not making a drastic swing change so he can get a few more yards. For most, that usually doesn't work out to well. He's doing fine with the length he has.

 

I totally agree. His "struggles" came when he tried to hit it longer beginning of last season. I'm delighted he won. Yeah his on course demeanor is tiresome but most weeks he plays better golf than a lot and given the fact he can be 30-50 yards behind the big dogs, I think his achievements are all the more deserving.

[4thand11]

This is always an underrated tournament imo. The course is interesting and looks fantastic on TV. Usually has some good names on the leaderboard, and a lot of players in striking distance on Sunday.