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Epic is out...enter the Rogue


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Callaway has became Taylor Made. Wth? The epic has barely even been out.

 

New drivers won't be available until February I'm told.

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Woods - Callaway Paradym 3W
Hybrids - XXIO 10 3H, 4H, 5H
Irons - Callaway Paradym 6-52*
Wedge - PXG Forged 56** 
Putter - Ping TYNE C
Ball - Titleist AVX

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My sub zero actually distance wise is similar to my Aeroburner TP, though a very different driver to hit. Last time I'm getting a driver without testing it first. Still gaming it though since it looks cooler LOL and easier to hit different shot shapes.

 

I'm not sure I dig the look of the bottom of the club though. Hope it really doesn't replace the epics but probably will have epic 2 soon I guess.

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Thanks for the pic! I am guessing it is not long before we see staff members trying these out on the Tours.

I still say there is close to zero percent chance these replace the Epic lineup. XR Steelhead XR16 is beginning to see markdowns this week, which would indicate a replacement model is on the way.

The sole of this driver doesn’t look as premium, doesn’t feature sliding weights and doesn’t look to have carbon fiber “windows”. Less features would not indicate a replacement for a premium product line. Think M2 to M1. Some may fit Rogue better and there will definitely be some out on Tour, but not a dethroning of King Epic.

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This will look great with an Attas 6Star......which I have lying around

 

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4 Wood: Kamui Pro TP-XF 17.5° + Fujikura Speeder Evolution VI FW70x @ 42 1/2".

7 Wood: Kamui Pro TP-XF 22.5° + Fujikura Speeder Evolution VI FW80x @ 41 3/4".
Irons: Kamui Pro KP-102 5i-PW + KBS TGI 110 + 1/2".
Wedges: Callaway Jaws Forged 50°/55°/60° + KBS C-Taper
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Shaft will be Project X Even Flow. Not a replacement for Epic line...irons or woods.

 

I'm trying to get verification but I've been told Rogue replaces XR, not Epic.

Driver - Callaway Paradym
Woods - Callaway Paradym 3W
Hybrids - XXIO 10 3H, 4H, 5H
Irons - Callaway Paradym 6-52*
Wedge - PXG Forged 56** 
Putter - Ping TYNE C
Ball - Titleist AVX

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Just got an email from PGATSS and the XR line is being discounted with the price ending with 98. That indicates it is being priced to clear it out for new product.

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Callaway Epic Flash 3, 5, & 7 woods w/ Fujikura Pro 2.0 R2-6

Callaway Apex 21 DCB 4 iron w/ Project X Catalyst 50 5.0 
Callaway Apex 21 5 - AW w/ Project X Catalyst 50 5.0
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So why is Epic marked down so much already? Just releasing an update then in spring?

 

It least here in Atlanta, the Epic is not marked down. Driver, FW, hybrids, and irons are the same price as the day they were released. Only the XR line is discounted.

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Callaway Epic Flash 3, 5, & 7 woods w/ Fujikura Pro 2.0 R2-6

Callaway Apex 21 DCB 4 iron w/ Project X Catalyst 50 5.0 
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So why is Epic marked down so much already? Just releasing an update then in spring?

 

It least here in Atlanta, the Epic is not marked down. Driver, FW, hybrids, and irons are the same price as the day they were released. Only the XR line is discounted.

 

Because despite what some people are spewing in here, the Rogue looks to be replacing the XR

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Can't seem to find it now, might have been in the other thread too, but didn't someone say that they found Callaway filing for rights to the XR-18 name and Rogue is just one of the 3 version names? Rogue is basically the sub-zero version with a front/back weight, another with heel/back weights for what they're calling a draw set-up and one that might be a single weight, with no slider as the largest, most "forgiving"?

 

Please, someone correct me if I'm wrong. Just trying to recount what I remember reading.

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Can't seem to find it now, might have been in the other thread too, but didn't someone say that they found Callaway filing for rights to the XR-18 name and Rogue is just one of the 3 version names? Rogue is basically the sub-zero version with a front/back weight, another with heel/back weights for what they're calling a draw set-up and one that might be a single weight, with no slider as the largest, most "forgiving"?

 

Please, someone correct me if I'm wrong. Just trying to recount what I remember reading.

 

Yep, The names XR-18 Rogue, XR-18 Mav and XR-18 Pure have all been trademarked by Callaway. Filing date was March 1st 2017

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I don't really see how it's an XR replacement when it's just an Epic with altered graphics, maybe some small tweaks to the bottom for "aerodynamics". It's not like people would go buying brand new Epics once this is released...therefore it's competing with it's own line of product. It's a Rev of the Epic, being branded under the XR name so they don't have to reduce the price of Epic by much.

 

 

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You can buy new at Callaway CPO with any shaft and customized length $330.

 

You can buy "Like New" based on what they have listed. Callaway CPO does not sell new (expect for maybe some old clearance product they want get rid of). Based on my experience buying from Callaway CPO, like new would be as close to new as you can get without it being new.

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Callaway Epic Flash 3, 5, & 7 woods w/ Fujikura Pro 2.0 R2-6

Callaway Apex 21 DCB 4 iron w/ Project X Catalyst 50 5.0 
Callaway Apex 21 5 - AW w/ Project X Catalyst 50 5.0
Callaway Mack Daddy CB 56 w/ Project X Catalyst 60 5.5
Toulon Design Palm Beach Stroke Lab
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You can buy new at Callaway CPO with any shaft and customized length $330.

 

You can buy "Like New" based on what they have listed. Callaway CPO does not sell new (expect for maybe some old clearance product they want get rid of). Based on my experience buying from Callaway CPO, like new would be as close to new as you can get without it being new.

 

I got my, like new, Epic at CPO, not a mark on it. Currently 20% off, roughly $340.

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I don't really see how it's an XR replacement when it's just an Epic with altered graphics, maybe some small tweaks to the bottom for "aerodynamics". It's not like people would go buying brand new Epics once this is released...therefore it's competing with it's own line of product. It's a Rev of the Epic, being branded under the XR name so they don't have to reduce the price of Epic by much.

 

We have yet to hear a single word about this club from Callaway, so how do we already know “it’s just an Epic with altered graphics?” And if in your opinion this isn’t an XR replacement, then what would a club have to be like in order to be an XR replacement?

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Jailbreak tech in fairway woods and hybrids with the Rogue line as well. Should be interesting.

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So why is Epic marked down so much already? Just releasing an update then in spring?

 

Where is the Epic marked down at? I need to know so I can get one.

 

CPO does have the LIKE NEW going for 330'ish price goes down from that point based on rating

 

But I cannot pick what shaft I want, and they don't have the shaft I want listed yet. I have been looking. Otherwise I would have one right now and my XR Pro 16 would be a distant memory.

 

What courses do you play in the Denver metro area? I'm in Denver as well.

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I was also told that this is an Epic replacement... from the story I heard, the feedback Callaway received indicated that players were having consistency and accuracy issues with the Epic so the Epic and Fusion driver had a baby named Rogue... the desire result was a driver with the length of the Epic but more consistency and forgiveness like Fusion.

 

this surprises me, my Epic driver is very consistent and the ball flight is outstanding. The operator, not so much....

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