Callaway APEX MB RAW

Pontus · Dec 12, 2017

So I just heard from a local fitter that Callaway are making the apex mb "raw" version available for leftys 2018 in Sweden. Huge fan of the look you get with a raw finish. But since they does not come cheap and I will use them for some years (I hope so atleast). How will the raw finish/ rust affect the life cycle compared to a forged non-raw finish??

Lacey Underall · Dec 12, 2017

This has been one of my talking points for some time. I firmly believe that raw irons/wedges last longer. If you look at any used iron/wedge its typically the chrome finish that shows the wear. Why do people send their clubs off to get refinished? To put a fresh new coat of chrome on them! I only use raw wedges and they last forever. Unless you play on a really sandy surface (then you have no hope either way).

buckeyefl · Dec 12, 2017

Sand is the enemy!

toddba11 · Dec 13, 2017

Is the RAW available in the US for right-handers?

Pontus · Dec 13, 2017

Lacey Underall wrote:

This has been one of my talking points for some time. I firmly believe that raw irons/wedges last longer. If you look at any used iron/wedge its typically the chrome finish that shows the wear. Why do people send their clubs off to get refinished? To put a fresh new coat of chrome on them! I only use raw wedges and they last forever. Unless you play on a really sandy surface (then you have no hope either way).

Thats interesting, so you feel like the groves stays sharper longer than non-raws? But refinish that's for looks only, I am right? If they got atleast the same life time as non-raws, Im all over these!

toddba11 wrote:

Is the RAW available in the US for right-handers?

No idea. Weird if they were offered in europe but not the US?

toddba11 · Dec 13, 2017

Agreed, I suspect st some point they will.

Jdavenp3 · Dec 13, 2017

toddba11 wrote:

Agreed, I suspect st some point they will.

This was a question that I asked in the Callaway Live Chat thread. Basically they aren't offering it in the US right now and there was more of a demand for it overseas. I really don't see how but surely we will see them at some point.

toddba11 · Dec 13, 2017

Great, good to know, thanks for the information. I love the look of those MBs, regardless, but the raw would be a nice option if I pull the trigger.

tobybear · Dec 13, 2017

having worked in golf retail its a very North American thing to have "shiny & bright"

MANY moons ago I was a tech rep for a major OEM and the year I started this company stopped offering RAW wedges to consumers - you guys can figure this out. Anyways when I asked why - because it was always my preference, i was told it was because in pro shops and big box the average consumer never wanted to buy a club that was already rusted. They chose to abandon the RAW wedges instead of offer consumer education about the product anymore.

I think it comes down to consumer preference and what sells in what markets. If it was up to me all my irons and wedges would be raw.

EaglesGolf99 · Dec 13, 2017

I asked a similar question in the live chat too, I went unanswered though.

Seriously though...

Legacy Black Stenson's (Japan)

1st Gen Epic Star Driver & Fairways (Japan)

Epic Forged Driver (Japan)

Apex MB Raw (Europe)

What am I missing here, Callaway?

Bonded Drivers and RAW Clubheads .... I gotta live outside the states to get them?

EaglesGolf99 · Dec 13, 2017

tobybear wrote:

having worked in golf retail its a very North American thing to have "shiny & bright"

MANY moons ago I was a tech rep for a major OEM and the year I started this company stopped offering RAW wedges to consumers - you guys can figure this out. Anyways when I asked why - because it was always my preference, i was told it was because in pro shops and big box the average consumer never wanted to buy a club that was already rusted. They chose to abandon the RAW wedges instead of offer consumer education about the product anymore.

I think it comes down to consumer preference and what sells in what markets. If it was up to me all my irons and wedges would be raw.

I think it was Nike who had the blue wax "headcovers" on it's Raw Wedges? ... Maybe it was Mizuno ... I forget, but I thought that was a really, really, good idea. Prevents the pre-purchase rust and protects from dings and dents as an added bonus. I understand it's probably a costly proposition to major OEM's, but I think a guy in the market to buy Raw Wedges, doesn't have an issue paying a couple extra bucks for the post production, pre sale, waxing process.

JMO.

tdk8180 · Dec 14, 2017

Raw finish is the best for irons and wedges in my opinion.

Chrome is a clean look, but chrome will wear over time anyway.

There is nothing like the feel of a raw wedge or iron. Any plating on metal will make the head feel harder.

Raw irons are easier to work with asthetically. You can sand blast them, polish them, rust them, hand sand them, etc. You can do a rich black oxide, a rusty oil can patina, torch finish, polish to a natural silver metal finish. You cant do any of that with chrome plated finish.

Raw is best!

LaymanM · Dec 16, 2017

No RAW in US. Have Apex MB chrome sitting in my bag. God I can’t wait for spring!

fldawgfan · Jan 16, 2018

LaymanM wrote:

No RAW in US. Have Apex MB chrome sitting in my bag. God I can’t wait for spring!

Oh well, I quest I will send my money to a shop in the UK, Australia, or Germany. Raw goes on sail there in a week or 2. They are listed on Callaway’s German website.

EaglesGolf99 · Jan 16, 2018

****. Crazy.

Foreign Callaway beating up on Domestic Callaway ....

Just my two cents.

Lacey Underall · Jan 16, 2018

When the raw MB is released in Europe how can we get our hands on them in the States? Is there a website like TourSpec for Europe?

Pontus · Jan 16, 2018

Says 19/1 on their Europe website. Just noticed the MB Raw shows up when viewing "left handed clubs" but the specs says RH only. Praying I'm not going to be bullied once again for being a lefty

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PALS-SSA · Jan 16, 2018

I love raw and the way it feels.

Pawtucket · Jan 16, 2018

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Lacey Underall · Jan 16, 2018

Okay just saw they have them up on the UK site:

http://uk.callawaygolf.com/golf-clubs/iron-sets/irons-2018-apex-mb-oil-finish.html

Must.....find....way....to.....acquire.

thekanga · Jan 16, 2018

I ordered from Australia and will pick them up when I'm there next month. Wish I could have ordered them in the US but nope.

tobybear · Jan 18, 2018

Lacey Underall wrote:

Okay just saw they have them up on the UK site:

http://uk.callawaygo...oil-finish.html

Must.....find....way....to.....acquire.

Best advice is to find a friend to ship you a set thats the best bet vs, trying to buy online. I'm sure there's a GolfWRX friend who would be happy to help.

On a side note, I know I would prefer the raw over chrome.

chipaudio · Jan 29, 2018

Is there a WRX member in Europe who would take this on? Please message me and I would love to work something out.

ZAP · Jan 29, 2018

LaymanM wrote:

No RAW in US. Have Apex MB chrome sitting in my bag. God I can't wait for spring!

Wish I could say the same. Only new wedges this year. Too much college. Many college.

Oh well I really like my Apex MBs that are a generation old very much so don't feel bad.

dukeman · Jan 29, 2018

Just asking.....companies go to great lengths to provide a perfectly smooth hitting surface so the wedge will be more accurate. Doesn’t the rusting over time create an irregular surface hence less accuracy?

RosePark · Jan 31, 2018

https://clubchampiongolf.com/merchandise

buckeyefl · Jan 31, 2018

dukeman wrote:

Just asking.....companies go to great lengths to provide a perfectly smooth hitting surface so the wedge will be more accurate. Doesn't the rusting over time create an irregular surface hence less accuracy?

nope

Lacey Underall · Jan 31, 2018

dukeman wrote:

Just asking.....companies go to great lengths to provide a perfectly smooth hitting surface so the wedge will be more accurate. Doesn't the rusting over time create an irregular surface hence less accuracy?

Its an interesting thought. But I agree.......the answer is no. I'd say over 50% or more of the PGA tour players use raw wedges. Enough said there.

EaglesGolf99 · Jan 31, 2018

RosePark wrote:

https://clubchampiongolf.com/merchandise

Wait!

So that's in the US?

EDIT ... So yes, my answer to my question is yes. Lol. Read little further, Goof.

thekanga · Feb 8, 2018

Just received this teaser picture. Picking them up on Sunday.

Mark_Crossan · Feb 11, 2018

Is there a place to get them in the US then now?

I'm living in Australia now and they have them online here. If you're struggling then I can always help out If someone wants them shipping.

I.e. Get them sent to my house and I can post them at the post office (obviously if you guys pay for the postage) if it's cheaper than ordering them off a foreign site and paying for postage.

Callaway APEX MB RAW

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