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Most faders of the golf ball play a slightly closed face with out to in swing. Please bear in mind these are faders not slicers. These folks want a controlled ball flight they trust and eliminate the left side of the course.

This is not true.

 

Agree to disagree and we are probably talking semantics. The closed face is relative to path straight down the middle. This implies out to in path. See DJ for example. Anyone starting in to out with open face relative to path straight down the middle is hitting a push and many times will impart draw spin on the ball.

 

Agree. If someone doesnt think this is true, youve not been watching Ryan Palmer's slo mo swing this weekend. Listen to Kostis detail it.

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So we have an average golfer who got good results and a well above average golfer who didn't. Shiels results are what scares me about the m3/m4 lines. Playing a fade, I don't want a toe miss to head right.

 

I have watched Shiels review, and what scared me, was rather how he hit the ball, and his conclusions, than the performance of the club.

 

He stresses one single shot, that behaved strange in his opinion...

...however, if you look at the (protracer) ball flight of this particular shot,

 

it rather seems to me, as if it was just a misalignment of Shiels (he simply aimed wrong on the golf course - which often happens to me also),

and not the golf club (technology).

 

He may be a nice guy, but (meanwhile) I think, that he has not enough knowledge / carefulness / abilities, to draw final conclusions from his reviews.

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I thought most launch monitors maxed their smash factor out at 1.5?

I think you can get to 1.51 or even 1.52 on a trackman, but this is a rare occasion when hitting it out of the toe. It has to do with how the measurements are taken. But anything higher and on such a regular basis is simply impossible.

 


 

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He says he’s making another video soon explaining why the smash factor is so high as told to him by trackman

 

As for Thomas he just hits it perfect and probably has a slightly illegal driver

 

Drivers can only be tested before they have been hit or the test is void, so manufacturers hit them find the hot ones and give them to the pros, drivers can also create slightly higher ballspeeds as they age

 

I doubt the 1.54 figure though

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Remember when looking at Smash Factor, trackman is good at Ball data not club data. If you get a fitting at Taylormade they typically don't show swing speed because it can be off by 2 or 3 mph. They really saw some inconsistencies with the White headed clubs. I'm not saying it's always the issue but definitely could be a factor.

Taylormade M5 Pro White 70x
Taylormade M5 rocket Pro White 70x
Taylormade P790 3 iron tour prototype
Taylormade P730 4-pw $-taper 130x
Taylormade MG 50 54
Taylormade High toe 58
Taylormade Spider tour Black.

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He says he's making another video soon explaining why the smash factor is so high as told to him by trackman

 

As for Thomas he just hits it perfect and probably has a slightly illegal driver

 

Drivers can only be tested before they have been hit or the test is void, so manufacturers hit them find the hot ones and give them to the pros, drivers can also create slightly higher ballspeeds as they age

 

I doubt the 1.54 figure though

 

This guy made a interesting head to head test:

 

 

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Sneak preview on the smash factors:

 

 

M2 2017 smash 1.49

 

M3 440 smash 1.49

 

M3 460 smash 1.49

 

M4 smash 1.51

 

Rogue smash 1.47

 

Rogue SZ smash 1.48

 

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...and the M4 also had a really hot face in his test.

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Please bear in mind these are faders not slicers.

 

Whats the difference between a fader and a slicer, besides one starting it farther left?

G400 Max 9* Ventus Red 5X, SIM Ventus Red 6X 

Callaway Mavrik 4 (18*) - AW (46*) Project X 5.5

Vokey SM4 50* SM5 56*

Cameron Phantom 5S

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