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I have a 52F sm6 and 58S I think both 10 bounce. I love them but can still dig a bit at times if there's a damp lie. Wet lies take all of my concentration. End up try to pick it. And before you say change strike, I'm a really good chipper/scrambler. Play to 7-8 hc and it isn't because I have a great swing.

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3wd: TEE CB Pro 14.5 Speeder 757 stiff; 
5wd: Cobra F6 Baffler set at 17.5; Titleist 915 2H
3H- Titleist 915 2H dialed up in loft to 19; Ping G with Evenflow Blue 85 6.0
4 iron: G400 Crossover; G400 green dot CFS stiff, It's stamped 5 iron but power spec at 22* I use it as 4 iron; N/A
5-PW: Ping i15 green dot AWT stiff; PXG 0211 w/ Elevate Tour VSS Pro stiff
52/12 F: Vokey sm8 2 up; 52/12 F Vokey SM7
58/12 d: Vokey sm8 2 up; 58/12 d Vokey sm7 
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What about D grind?

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Driver: PING G410 LST 9 w/ EF Black 6.5; Cobra LTD PRO w/ Speeder 661 iv and Cobra F8+ with Evenflow Blue 65 6.5
3wd: TEE CB Pro 14.5 Speeder 757 stiff; 
5wd: Cobra F6 Baffler set at 17.5; Titleist 915 2H
3H- Titleist 915 2H dialed up in loft to 19; Ping G with Evenflow Blue 85 6.0
4 iron: G400 Crossover; G400 green dot CFS stiff, It's stamped 5 iron but power spec at 22* I use it as 4 iron; N/A
5-PW: Ping i15 green dot AWT stiff; PXG 0211 w/ Elevate Tour VSS Pro stiff
52/12 F: Vokey sm8 2 up; 52/12 F Vokey SM7
58/12 d: Vokey sm8 2 up; 58/12 d Vokey sm7 
Putter: Taylormade Spider Platinum; Ping Anser Milled 5; Nike Method Matter B2-05
Ball: Wilson FG Tour

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What about D grind?

 

Yes.. what about it? That’s the thing. It’s not available yet unless you hit it at a demo day somewhere.

 

I’ll give one a try. I’m a digger. I played a 58* M grind bent to 60* for a few months last year. It Added a couple degrees of bounce. I liked it but wasn’t in love with it.

 

The only issue with the K grind is that it’s worthless on really firm ground or firm bunkers If you want to lay it open a bit. Skull city. Dive for cover!!

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It depends what you want it for. The K, D, F(14 degree) or even a 56s grind bent weak are all options.

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The new D grind is like the M grind, but bounce goes from 8 to 12. You can still open it up with the leading edge sitting flat due to the grind.

 

It sounds like a cross from between the V grind and the high bounce M grind from wedgeworks. I own both and I’m not I love with either one.

 

Perhaps if they had a baby It would be the D grind and I’d love it.

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The J grind looks intriguing. Is that available on sm7 through wedgeworks?

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Driver: PING G410 LST 9 w/ EF Black 6.5; Cobra LTD PRO w/ Speeder 661 iv and Cobra F8+ with Evenflow Blue 65 6.5
3wd: TEE CB Pro 14.5 Speeder 757 stiff; 
5wd: Cobra F6 Baffler set at 17.5; Titleist 915 2H
3H- Titleist 915 2H dialed up in loft to 19; Ping G with Evenflow Blue 85 6.0
4 iron: G400 Crossover; G400 green dot CFS stiff, It's stamped 5 iron but power spec at 22* I use it as 4 iron; N/A
5-PW: Ping i15 green dot AWT stiff; PXG 0211 w/ Elevate Tour VSS Pro stiff
52/12 F: Vokey sm8 2 up; 52/12 F Vokey SM7
58/12 d: Vokey sm8 2 up; 58/12 d Vokey sm7 
Putter: Taylormade Spider Platinum; Ping Anser Milled 5; Nike Method Matter B2-05
Ball: Wilson FG Tour

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These are the best wedges I've ever played for my game. You almost couldn't chunk them but also weren't scared from a tight lie. I despised the glide wedges from ping and love the sm6's I have, just looking for that little extra to make them perfect.

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Driver: PING G410 LST 9 w/ EF Black 6.5; Cobra LTD PRO w/ Speeder 661 iv and Cobra F8+ with Evenflow Blue 65 6.5
3wd: TEE CB Pro 14.5 Speeder 757 stiff; 
5wd: Cobra F6 Baffler set at 17.5; Titleist 915 2H
3H- Titleist 915 2H dialed up in loft to 19; Ping G with Evenflow Blue 85 6.0
4 iron: G400 Crossover; G400 green dot CFS stiff, It's stamped 5 iron but power spec at 22* I use it as 4 iron; N/A
5-PW: Ping i15 green dot AWT stiff; PXG 0211 w/ Elevate Tour VSS Pro stiff
52/12 F: Vokey sm8 2 up; 52/12 F Vokey SM7
58/12 d: Vokey sm8 2 up; 58/12 d Vokey sm7 
Putter: Taylormade Spider Platinum; Ping Anser Milled 5; Nike Method Matter B2-05
Ball: Wilson FG Tour

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K grind. Disregard any other answers.

 

100% correct.

 

I'd buy it in a second if the k grind had a touch of heel relief

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Driver: PING G410 LST 9 w/ EF Black 6.5; Cobra LTD PRO w/ Speeder 661 iv and Cobra F8+ with Evenflow Blue 65 6.5
3wd: TEE CB Pro 14.5 Speeder 757 stiff; 
5wd: Cobra F6 Baffler set at 17.5; Titleist 915 2H
3H- Titleist 915 2H dialed up in loft to 19; Ping G with Evenflow Blue 85 6.0
4 iron: G400 Crossover; G400 green dot CFS stiff, It's stamped 5 iron but power spec at 22* I use it as 4 iron; N/A
5-PW: Ping i15 green dot AWT stiff; PXG 0211 w/ Elevate Tour VSS Pro stiff
52/12 F: Vokey sm8 2 up; 52/12 F Vokey SM7
58/12 d: Vokey sm8 2 up; 58/12 d Vokey sm7 
Putter: Taylormade Spider Platinum; Ping Anser Milled 5; Nike Method Matter B2-05
Ball: Wilson FG Tour

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Check out Titleist website for tutorial on SM7 wedges. It will guide you to hopefully the right choice for your game?! ;)

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K grind. Disregard any other answers.

 

100% correct.

 

I'd buy it in a second if the k grind had a touch of heel relief

 

Buy either a Bridgestone J15 or a Nike x3x Toe Sweep. They're both a K grind with heel relief.

 

For example, J15:

 

 

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I have low bounce K grind in my 60 from wedgeworks. I had the previous K grind from wedgeworks that I had a trusted club maker grind a little off the heel. I'm not even a huge digger. I just like the forgiveness from tough buried lies in the rough and from the sand. The original K did struggle off firm fairway conditions, but was much better after a little grind work. I've had no issue with the low bounce K from tight lies.

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What about D grind?

 

Yes.. what about it? That's the thing. It's not available yet unless you hit it at a demo day somewhere.

 

I'll give one a try. I'm a digger. I played a 58* M grind bent to 60* for a few months last year. It Added a couple degrees of bounce. I liked it but wasn't in love with it.

 

The only issue with the K grind is that it's worthless on really firm ground or firm bunkers If you want to lay it open a bit. Skull city. Dive for cover!!

 

I have not found this to be the case with my K grind 58 yet... In SoCal there are no shortage of firm fairways and bunkers, you just have to be mindful of the turf condition and not get lazy. I tried a 56M grind for a short time and much prefer the K... I guess I kind of feel like I can get down into the ball without worrying about a chunk too much... It's been way more versatile than I expected.

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For most players, the K grinds are probably well suited for sand shots, especially soft sand. But from various turf scenarios they can be problematic and might require a lot of discipline if one's swing is not inherently suited to the K grinds. But the same is true for some M grinds. Bottom line, what works for my swing will likely not work for yours. I've got M grind TVD's in my desert bag along with a custom K grind 60. They work for me after a lot of trial and error on the range and a good deal of course practice.

 

So, while I do like them a lot, I wouldn't just outright recommend them to anyone. Wedges are simply too swing style dependent. I should add that one reason why I like them so much now is because I had the stock toe hang adjusted by a professional fitter. Made a huge difference in the turf interaction.

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