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Ordered custom M4 Driver, 3 Wood, 5 Wood, and 58* Hi-Toe on 3/02/18 and received the Hi-Toe and 5 Wood on 3/19. Driver and 3 Wood won't ship until April 9th. Considering the relative quick turnaround time, I guess there are some perks to being a lefty.

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Welcome to the private equity world......don’t pay people and never have inventory on the books.

 

Or welcome to the pretty much anything world....

 

I've seen probably 1000 threads here over the years where guys openly crap on middle men like the "big box" stores, they refuse to buy there because some college kid had the gall to not know about some tour issue club or model coming out 2 years from now. Online sellers have also made a big dent

 

Nobody wants to carry inventory. OEMs don't because it's a liability, Big box distributors want to cut back because their business is being attacked by online vendors and discounting policies. Not to mention there's just less of them now due to bankruptcies

 

But the consumer won't pay more for the convenience of inventory. They just don't realize that they are making that decision.

 

This is what happens when you put distributors out of business, because OEMs won't stock and even if they want to they can't forecast properly.

 

This is a side effect in many markets. Buy online and take a chance it's what you want....or wait a long time for your order. It's the same thing at places like Home Depot or Best Buy now. They barely keep anything in stores

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Guess I got lucky with my M4 order a couple weeks ago. I got it in 1 week after the demo day.

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I wonder if this issue is only applying to TM irons/woods. I ordered a TP Collection Soto putter from DD's last Wednesday morning. I opted for the Winn AVS black midsize pistol grip which is not a stock option. The putter arrived at my house today, 4th business day from California to North Carolina. I was shocked needless to say!

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I wonder if the UDI is even worth ordering this Friday if it'll ship months later...

 

Reconsidering

 

Yes I was asking a retailer when would be delivered if I ordered Friday, they said they could not let me know until Friday when they actually make the order. so now out of my head - like my current two iron.

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I wonder if the UDI is even worth ordering this Friday if it'll ship months later...

 

Reconsidering

 

Yes I was asking a retailer when would be delivered if I ordered Friday, they said they could not let me know until Friday when they actually make the order. so now out of my head - like my current two iron.

 

I ordered mine from Taylormade's website Monday with a custom lie and grip. Got confirmation this morning it has shipped and will be here Monday. We wouldn't wait though, as soon as it's officially released and marketed they'll be a huge run on them.

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Another award they have stolen from Callaway.

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The Tiger Woods effect?

 

Maybe but tiger isn’t even playing any of their clubs

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The Tiger Woods effect?

 

Maybe but tiger isn't even playing any of their clubs

so, driver, fairways, and UDI don't count? lol

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Welcome to the private equity world......don’t pay people and never have inventory on the books.

 

Or welcome to the pretty much anything world....

 

I've seen probably 1000 threads here over the years where guys openly crap on middle men like the "big box" stores, they refuse to buy there because some college kid had the gall to not know about some tour issue club or model coming out 2 years from now. Online sellers have also made a big dent

 

Nobody wants to carry inventory. OEMs don't because it's a liability, Big box distributors want to cut back because their business is being attacked by online vendors and discounting policies. Not to mention there's just less of them now due to bankruptcies

 

But the consumer won't pay more for the convenience of inventory. They just don't realize that they are making that decision.

 

This is what happens when you put distributors out of business, because OEMs won't stock and even if they want to they can't forecast properly.

 

This is a side effect in many markets. Buy online and take a chance it's what you want....or wait a long time for your order. It's the same thing at places like Home Depot or Best Buy now. They barely keep anything in stores

 

The CPA in me wants me to say that inventory is actually an asset on the balance sheet not a liability. Although an asset that doesn’t produce value until sold. Now when we start discussing excess and obsolescence that is another story.

 

The person in me wants to punch myself in the face.

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That is pretty rediculous, pretty much anything I've ordered from titleist shipped in less than a week.

 

That's because Titleist doesn't change anything so they can properly forecast

More about Titleist has a piece of the iron market and TM doesn't. TM isn't much different than Nike was in the game, ton of advertising, low sales. If not for the M Series, TM would have disappeared several years ago. Good irons, just not close to the heavyweights....
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Welcome to the private equity world......don’t pay people and never have inventory on the books.

 

Or welcome to the pretty much anything world....

 

I've seen probably 1000 threads here over the years where guys openly crap on middle men like the "big box" stores, they refuse to buy there because some college kid had the gall to not know about some tour issue club or model coming out 2 years from now. Online sellers have also made a big dent

 

Nobody wants to carry inventory. OEMs don't because it's a liability, Big box distributors want to cut back because their business is being attacked by online vendors and discounting policies. Not to mention there's just less of them now due to bankruptcies

 

But the consumer won't pay more for the convenience of inventory. They just don't realize that they are making that decision.

 

This is what happens when you put distributors out of business, because OEMs won't stock and even if they want to they can't forecast properly.

 

This is a side effect in many markets. Buy online and take a chance it's what you want....or wait a long time for your order. It's the same thing at places like Home Depot or Best Buy now. They barely keep anything in stores

 

The CPA in me wants me to say that inventory is actually an asset on the balance sheet not a liability. Although an asset that doesn’t produce value until sold. Now when we start discussing excess and obsolescence that is another story.

 

The person in me wants to punch myself in the face.

Yes, but that asset you list at $499 is depreciating as well with another cycle in 3 months......LOL
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Wow, that sucks. I ordered a custom Hi-Toe last Wednesday and it was delivered yesterday. I guess I got in right before the back orders started. Now, if I put the same order in it says it wouldn't be delivered until June. Sorry to hear about the issues they are having now.

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Welcome to the private equity world......don’t pay people and never have inventory on the books.

 

Or welcome to the pretty much anything world....

 

I've seen probably 1000 threads here over the years where guys openly crap on middle men like the "big box" stores, they refuse to buy there because some college kid had the gall to not know about some tour issue club or model coming out 2 years from now. Online sellers have also made a big dent

 

Nobody wants to carry inventory. OEMs don't because it's a liability, Big box distributors want to cut back because their business is being attacked by online vendors and discounting policies. Not to mention there's just less of them now due to bankruptcies

 

But the consumer won't pay more for the convenience of inventory. They just don't realize that they are making that decision.

 

This is what happens when you put distributors out of business, because OEMs won't stock and even if they want to they can't forecast properly.

 

This is a side effect in many markets. Buy online and take a chance it's what you want....or wait a long time for your order. It's the same thing at places like Home Depot or Best Buy now. They barely keep anything in stores

 

The CPA in me wants me to say that inventory is actually an asset on the balance sheet not a liability. Although an asset that doesn’t produce value until sold. Now when we start discussing excess and obsolescence that is another story.

 

The person in me wants to punch myself in the face.

Yes, but that asset you list at $499 is depreciating as well with another cycle in 3 months......LOL

 

Curious what 3-month cycle they’re on?

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Welcome to the private equity world......don’t pay people and never have inventory on the books.

 

Or welcome to the pretty much anything world....

 

I've seen probably 1000 threads here over the years where guys openly crap on middle men like the "big box" stores, they refuse to buy there because some college kid had the gall to not know about some tour issue club or model coming out 2 years from now. Online sellers have also made a big dent

 

Nobody wants to carry inventory. OEMs don't because it's a liability, Big box distributors want to cut back because their business is being attacked by online vendors and discounting policies. Not to mention there's just less of them now due to bankruptcies

 

But the consumer won't pay more for the convenience of inventory. They just don't realize that they are making that decision.

 

This is what happens when you put distributors out of business, because OEMs won't stock and even if they want to they can't forecast properly.

 

This is a side effect in many markets. Buy online and take a chance it's what you want....or wait a long time for your order. It's the same thing at places like Home Depot or Best Buy now. They barely keep anything in stores

 

If only these distributors could do a little more, like installing grips, shafts, lie and loft .... that would be something different.

Instead of just having std stock and unprepared employees.

 

As a manufacturer why having a store just mak8ng money for doing nothing? I prefer having my own channel.

Even sometimes damaging your brand for not correctly knowing how to handle or recommend your product. For too long these malpractices generated money, things are changing.

 

Know if you have a store like club champion as example, it’s a different story. They do work

 

 

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Welcome to the private equity world......don’t pay people and never have inventory on the books.

 

Or welcome to the pretty much anything world....

 

I've seen probably 1000 threads here over the years where guys openly crap on middle men like the "big box" stores, they refuse to buy there because some college kid had the gall to not know about some tour issue club or model coming out 2 years from now. Online sellers have also made a big dent

 

Nobody wants to carry inventory. OEMs don't because it's a liability, Big box distributors want to cut back because their business is being attacked by online vendors and discounting policies. Not to mention there's just less of them now due to bankruptcies

 

But the consumer won't pay more for the convenience of inventory. They just don't realize that they are making that decision.

 

This is what happens when you put distributors out of business, because OEMs won't stock and even if they want to they can't forecast properly.

 

This is a side effect in many markets. Buy online and take a chance it's what you want....or wait a long time for your order. It's the same thing at places like Home Depot or Best Buy now. They barely keep anything in stores

 

The CPA in me wants me to say that inventory is actually an asset on the balance sheet not a liability. Although an asset that doesn’t produce value until sold. Now when we start discussing excess and obsolescence that is another story.

 

The person in me wants to punch myself in the face.

Yes, but that asset you list at $499 is depreciating as well with another cycle in 3 months......LOL

 

They can't depreciate inventory.

 

And it's on their books at cost not $499.

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Welcome to the private equity world......don't pay people and never have inventory on the books.

 

Or welcome to the pretty much anything world....

 

I've seen probably 1000 threads here over the years where guys openly crap on middle men like the "big box" stores, they refuse to buy there because some college kid had the gall to not know about some tour issue club or model coming out 2 years from now. Online sellers have also made a big dent

 

Nobody wants to carry inventory. OEMs don't because it's a liability, Big box distributors want to cut back because their business is being attacked by online vendors and discounting policies. Not to mention there's just less of them now due to bankruptcies

 

But the consumer won't pay more for the convenience of inventory. They just don't realize that they are making that decision.

 

This is what happens when you put distributors out of business, because OEMs won't stock and even if they want to they can't forecast properly.

 

This is a side effect in many markets. Buy online and take a chance it's what you want....or wait a long time for your order. It's the same thing at places like Home Depot or Best Buy now. They barely keep anything in stores

 

The CPA in me wants me to say that inventory is actually an asset on the balance sheet not a liability. Although an asset that doesn't produce value until sold. Now when we start discussing excess and obsolescence that is another story.

 

The person in me wants to punch myself in the face.

Yes, but that asset you list at $499 is depreciating as well with another cycle in 3 months......LOL

 

Curious what 3-month cycle they're on?

Obviously you missed the point. For a few years TM was dropping woods more than once a year, hence the box stores (Dick's, etc) left with large inventory...
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Could Ping and Titleist be gaining some new customers since they have no inventory issues at the moment?

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Welcome to the private equity world......don’t pay people and never have inventory on the books.

 

Or welcome to the pretty much anything world....

 

I've seen probably 1000 threads here over the years where guys openly crap on middle men like the "big box" stores, they refuse to buy there because some college kid had the gall to not know about some tour issue club or model coming out 2 years from now. Online sellers have also made a big dent

 

Nobody wants to carry inventory. OEMs don't because it's a liability, Big box distributors want to cut back because their business is being attacked by online vendors and discounting policies. Not to mention there's just less of them now due to bankruptcies

 

But the consumer won't pay more for the convenience of inventory. They just don't realize that they are making that decision.

 

This is what happens when you put distributors out of business, because OEMs won't stock and even if they want to they can't forecast properly.

 

This is a side effect in many markets. Buy online and take a chance it's what you want....or wait a long time for your order. It's the same thing at places like Home Depot or Best Buy now. They barely keep anything in stores

 

The CPA in me wants me to say that inventory is actually an asset on the balance sheet not a liability. Although an asset that doesn’t produce value until sold. Now when we start discussing excess and obsolescence that is another story.

 

The person in me wants to punch myself in the face.

Yes, but that asset you list at $499 is depreciating as well with another cycle in 3 months......LOL

 

They can't depreciate inventory.

 

And it's on their books at cost not $499.

Which is $399, then when the MSRP is cut to $399, the manufacturer gives you a $50 credit........Ask Dick's how that worked for them?.....lol
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Let's place orders for custom equipment during the busiest time of the golf equipment cycle, mid-march through late-April, and be upset items are backordered. This time of the year is nothing new in terms of delays.

 

Do you know how many large accounts (retailers and clubs) are receiving their seasons inventory right now? All of them.

 

TM is also famous for over-estimating the timing and delivering early. It is better to estimate 10-12 weeks and send in 6.

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