Please analyze my trackman numbers. Do I need new shafts?

[Stinger26]

Just finished a lengthy trackman session. I'm wondering if I have the wrong flex, or wrong shafts entirely in my driver and 3 wood.

 

Can someone with fitting experience comment on my numbers?

 

I currently play a KK XT 70 X (I think it is tipped half an inch) at 44.5 in my driver. And a KK XT 80X (tipped 3 quarter inch i think?) in my 3 wood at 42.75.

 

Driver:

 

SS: 116.2

AOA: 1.7

Launch: 12.7

Spin Rate: 2931

 

3 Wood:

 

SS: 113.5

AOA: -2.1

Launch: 14.0

Spin: 4380

 

I'm particularly concerned with my launch and spin. Am I robbing myself of optimal numbers? Do you think I should go up in flex? Or do I need a whole new shaft?

 

Thanks

[MakersMarsh3]

Launch is in a pretty good window. Spin is too high though.

 

These were averages with outliers throw out?

[golfing_penguin]

Spin is about 400rpm too high, which is going to cost you a shade under five yards of carry and a little under 10 yards total distance, but more when you play into the wind. So could gain half a club into greens

 

Depends on if that's worth the upgrade? How much golf do you play, is it tournaments, etc

[Stinger26]

Launch is in a pretty good window. Spin is too high though.

 

These were averages with outliers throw out?

This is an average of 30 swings. Are you commenting on both the driver and 3 wood?

[Stinger26]

Spin is about 400rpm too high, which is going to cost you a shade under five yards of carry and a little under 10 yards total distance, but more when you play into the wind. So could gain half a club into greens

 

Depends on if that's worth the upgrade? How much golf do you play, is it tournaments, etc

Are you talking about driver or 3 wood? Or both? And I play just recreationally. But play against my friends for money every time we play so yes, it is worth it :)

[Booker]

Defenately not optimal but if its in play those numbers are fine. If you could get the driver 22-2400rpm at 12-13 launch and your fairway around 3200-3400rpm that would be optimal. You could try a different shaft (pro orange, t1100, pro white,synergy black) tipped an inch or 1.5 or a lower spin driver head. See if you can demo some of those shafts or go for a fitting that has some higher end shafts. Im not sure what head your using currently. Getting your AOA up to 3-4 would cut your spin quite a bit.

It could also make you hit it all over the place. If your hitting fairways and scoring well with those numbers I'd be cautious to change too much. At 116 and 2900 your still getting it out there plenty far (tour average is around 2600). Guessing ball speed is 165-170mph.

Lots of guys on tour who dont spin it real low. Sergio, koepka, vegas come to mind.

[Stinger26]

Defenately not optimal but if its in play those numbers are fine. If you could get the driver 22-2400rpm at 12-13 launch and your fairway around 3200-3400rpm that would be optimal. You could try a different shaft (pro orange, t1100, pro white,synergy black) tipped an inch or 1.5 or a lower spin driver head. See if you can demo some of those shafts or go for a fitting that has some higher end shafts. Im not sure what head your using currently. Getting your AOA up to 3-4 would cut your spin quite a bit.

It could also make you hit it all over the place. If your hitting fairways and scoring well with those numbers I'd be cautious to change too much. At 116 and 2900 your still getting it out there plenty far (tour average is around 2600). Guessing ball speed is 165-170mph.

Lots of guys on tour who dont spin it real low. Sergio, koepka, vegas come to mind.

Thanks Booker. Yes you are right. I'm right around 170 to 175 ball speed. But if I can gain a club into the green that would be pretty huge!

Unfortunately the fitters around me don't carry tipped shafts, or even TX flexes for the most part. None of them even carry my shaft model, which I don't think is that exotic. There's a true spec opening up in manhattan. Maybe I can try there.

 

I tried the T1100 and I didn't like the feel. I fell in love with the KK due to feel. I guess I can try the orange and synergy. Thanks for your rec.

[grochol17]

Where are you making contact on the face? High spin is often the result of hitting the ball low on the face so your fix might just be to try and hit the ball above center to kill some spin.

[Stinger26]

Where are you making contact on the face? High spin is often the result of hitting the ball low on the face so your fix might just be to try and hit the ball above center to kill some spin.

Haha well I prefer to make contact in the middle of the face. I'm not going to adjust spin by hitting it high or low on the face, sounds kinda ludicrous.

[grochol17]

Where are you making contact on the face? High spin is often the result of hitting the ball low on the face so your fix might just be to try and hit the ball above center to kill some spin.

Haha well I prefer to make contact in the middle of the face. I'm not going to adjust spin by hitting it high or low on the face, sounds kinda ludicrous.

 

Glad to know you just dismissed my idea as stupid with no further thought... you might want to read this:

 

http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/909991-diy-driver-tune-up-diy-fitting/

 

particularly the second graphic. Or, if you just can't be bothered to follow the link and learn something from Howard Jones, the short version is that a ball hit about 0.25" above the center will have about 500 RPMs less spin than a ball hit on the center of the face. Oh, look, spin problem solved on your driver just by teeing the ball up higher. You're welcome.

[Stinger26]

Where are you making contact on the face? High spin is often the result of hitting the ball low on the face so your fix might just be to try and hit the ball above center to kill some spin.

Haha well I prefer to make contact in the middle of the face. I'm not going to adjust spin by hitting it high or low on the face, sounds kinda ludicrous.

 

Glad to know you just dismissed my idea as stupid with no further thought... you might want to read this:

 

http://www.golfwrx.c...up-diy-fitting/

 

particularly the second graphic. Or, if you just can't be bothered to follow the link and learn something from Howard Jones, the short version is that a ball hit about 0.25" above the center will have about 500 RPMs less spin than a ball hit on the center of the face. Oh, look, spin problem solved on your driver just by teeing the ball up higher. You're welcome.

Haha dude!!! relax man!!! I can literally envision you fuming behind your screen.

 

You totally misunderstood what I'm trying to say. I'm not refuting that spin varies based on where you hit it. I'm well aware of that.

 

What I'm saying is that I'm a weekend golfer man. I'm trying my best to hit the center of the face for God's sake. Do you really think average golfers can just hit above the center by 0.25 inches consistently on demand?? And no, I'm not just going to just "tee it up higher". It would mess with me visually and I would subconsciously adjust for the higher tee by swinging it differently. What about my 3 wood? I hit that off the deck all the time.

 

Thank you for your enthusiasm, but damn!!

[mizuno player]

If aren't willing to try and tee it 1/32-1/4" higher then contact Toll on here and order a Aldila Synergy Black 70tx. That will drop spin spin a few hundred in spin and money.

 

 

[Jack Pearsall]

Generally, Always kinda felt with woods that if it feels so good, then you’re probably got too much spin...

[JDSPGA]

Not a shaft issue in my opinion. No shaft will drop the RPM 500+ on average. Shaft is for fine tuning and feel. I'd look at a different clubhead possibly, and work on impact location.

 

Sometimes a theoretical "higher spinning" shaft can produce lower spinning shots if that shaft causes you to deliver the club to the ball a few more milometers higher on the face.

[Rosco1216]

Where are you making contact on the face? High spin is often the result of hitting the ball low on the face so your fix might just be to try and hit the ball above center to kill some spin.

Haha well I prefer to make contact in the middle of the face. I'm not going to adjust spin by hitting it high or low on the face, sounds kinda ludicrous.

 

He’s referring to very relevant issue could be that your contact could be a touch low on the face, thus causing higher spin numbers.

 

On another note, What loft and what head are you using?

[TollBros]

Launch is in a pretty good window. Spin is too high though.

 

These were averages with outliers throw out?

 

Exactly. The launch is fine. The spin is quite a bit too high.

[TollBros]

Not a shaft issue in my opinion. No shaft will drop the RPM 500+ on average. Shaft is for fine tuning and feel. I'd look at a different clubhead possibly, and work on impact location.

 

Sometimes a theoretical "higher spinning" shaft can produce lower spinning shots if that shaft causes you to deliver the club to the ball a few more milometers higher on the face.

 

Untrue for good ball strikers. Shaft alone can easily drop 500 rpm if set up properly.

[Stinger26]

Where are you making contact on the face? High spin is often the result of hitting the ball low on the face so your fix might just be to try and hit the ball above center to kill some spin.

Haha well I prefer to make contact in the middle of the face. I'm not going to adjust spin by hitting it high or low on the face, sounds kinda ludicrous.

 

He's referring to very relevant issue could be that your contact could be a touch low on the face, thus causing higher spin numbers.

 

On another note, What loft and what head are you using?

Yes, I get that. But again, I can control what shaft I'm using way more than where I strike it on the face. Let's just assume I'm hitting it where it needs to be hit.

 

And I'm using a 9 degree epic sub zero.