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Looked at both sets, just received my Cobra Forged Tec Blacks and would highly recommend them.

 

TM has (rightfully) created a lot of buzz around the P790, and they have produced a great iron. In my opinion, the P790's feel like two different sets, 8-PW and 7 iron up. Performance in the short irons (8-PW) felt overly soft/non responsive compared to the more powerful feel of the 7 iron and longer clubs.

 

Cobra is often overlooked when it comes to technology, but this set is packed with new tech. The new finish looks incredible, performance is right there with the P790's in terms of ballspeed, and you get the bonus of the Arccos system. One final note on Cobra. If you are a high speed player like me, you'll also really appreciate the extensive shaft catalog (and modest upcharge) from Cobra. I have DG X7's in my set, and that option just isn't available in every manufacturer's catalog.

2019 WITB

Ping G400 LST, Nventix Golf Nunchuk
Cobra King LTD 3 wood, Graphite Design AD-GP XX
TM UDI @ 16 degrees, Matrix HM3 105 XXX
Cobra King Utility 18.5 degree, Matrix HM3 XXX
Cobra Forged Tec Black, 5-PW, DG X7
Cobra King Wedges: 50, 54, 58, 62 DG X7
TM Juno
Srixon XV

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I must admit, I’m kinda digging on these new black Cobras.

 

My Hogan PTx’s are hands down the best irons I’ve ever played, but I may buy a set of forged tec to goof around with.

 

Every year I try a new set or two just for kicks. Nothing can kick the Hogans out of the bag though. I Throw darts with those bad boys.

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You must have some sharp eyes to be able to tell 0.3mm difference in offset.

[color=#ff0000][b]Driver: [/b][/color]Callaway GBB 9.5* (Project X HZRDUS Black 76g 6.5X)
[color=#ff0000][b]Hybrid: [/b][/color]Taylormade RBZ 19* (Fujikura Speeder TS H9.8)
[color=#ff0000][b]Irons: [/b][/color] Callaway Apex'14 4-PW (DG X100)
[color=#ff0000][b]Wedges: [/b][/color]Nike SV Tour (DG S400)
[color=#ff0000][b]Putter: [/b][/color]Odyssey Tank Cruiser #7
[b][color=#ff0000]Balls: [/color][/b]Srixon ZstarXV

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I’m waiting on my Cobra Blacks with the $-tapers.

I not even going to try the 790’s just because of all the QC issues fromTM and the yardage gap concerns from so many.

TheCally CF-16’swere great irons and I bought into the hype with them, and I had issues with the feel from 7 to 8 irons and odd gapping.

“OnceyougoBlackâ€:-)

Rox

2023 in the Bag!


Rogue Max Ls 9°/HZRDUS Gen 4 Black 6.5 70<br  />TSi2 15°/Aldila Green 75X<br/>Epic Flash 21°/Tour Green 75X<br/>Maltby TS1-iM 4-6 iron Modus 115X<br/>

Honma 747V/DG120-S400 7-PW<br/>Jaws 50°, 54° & 58°/DG Tour Issue S400<br/>Scotty Cameron 5.5M<br />Callaway Chrome Soft and
Sun Moutain C130/ClicGear Rovic cart with Alphard E-Wheels V2
 

 

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Bridgestone Tour-B X-CB/DG120 S400 Tour Issue 5-PW

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You must have some sharp eyes to be able to tell 0.3mm difference in offset.

 

You beat me to it. How many human hairs is that? ; )

 

 

Edit...I actually just looked it up to be a smart Word not allowed. Average human hair width across all races is .08 mm. That means .3 mm is roughly equal to the width of 4 human hairs (.32mm).

 

 

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I’m waiting on my Cobra Blacks with the $-tapers.

I not even going to try the 790’s just because of all the QC issues TM and the yardage gap concerns from so many.

TheCally CF-16’swere great irons and I bought into the hype with them, and I had issues with the feel from 7 to 8 irons and odd gapping.

“OnceyougoBlack”:-)

Rox

 

Agreed on Apex. If they HADNT made the 7 through long irons with that springy “carpenter steel” face, they might have been the best “players game improvement” irons ever made.

 

I had them for 3 months and my distance control with the mid and long irons sucked. Way too hot. For slightly lower swing speeds I still think they are pretty darn impressive.

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You must have some sharp eyes to be able to tell 0.3mm difference in offset.

 

Thats why I dont have either of those sets!

DRIVERS (TBD):  PXG BLACK OPS TOUR 8*,  BLACK OPS TOUR 10.5*,  BLACK OPS STD 8*;  Vanquish 4TX / Diamana WB 53x / GD AD-VF 5s / Ventus TR Black 5x / Kaili White, Blue, Red 60x / Tensei AV White/Blue 65x / Diamana S+ 60x

FAIRWAYS:  TAYLORMADE STEALTH 2+ FAIRWAYS/HYBRIDS:  R13.5( FW Rocket TI), 12.8*, Kaili White/Blue 70X;  #3 FW, 15.0*, Kaili Blue 70X/Red 75X;  #4 FW TI, 16.6*, Kaili White 70TX;  #6 FW TI, 20.3*, Kaili White 80TX;  #3 HY 19.5*, Kaili White 90TX; #4 HY 22*, Kaili White 90X

PXG GEN5 0311X, Black Label Elite, 22*, Accra TZFive, 105DI, M5

PXG 0317T, Xtreme Dark, 5 - GW, LAGP L Series, X

PXG  GEN6 Two Sets 0311XP, Double Black and Xtreme Dark, 4 - LW, LAGP L Series, X

TAYLORMADE P7TW, 5 - GW, LAGP L Series, X

PXG 0311 Sugar Daddy II Milled Wedges, Xtreme Dark, 54*/10, 56*/10, 58*/10, 62*/10; // LAGP L Series, S

SCOTTY CAMERON CONCEPT X 7.2 LTD,  LAGOLF P 135g shaft // LAGOLF BEL-AIR X Forged Carbon Putter // TOULON GARAGE - Austin Custom Rose Gold // STEWART GOLF Q Follow Electric Cart..Carbon // SKYCADDIE SX550 // COBALT Q6 Slope

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I just ordered the Forged Tec Black with $ Taper Black shafts. Can’t wait for them to get here.

Driver:  MIZUNO ST-G 440 (11.5d) - UST Lin-Q M40X Red 60s

Fwy:  MIZUNO ST-G Titanium 3w (15) - UST Lin-Q M40X Red 60s

Fwy:  COBRA F6 Baffler (19) - Project X Hzrdus Red 75/6.0
Hybrid:  COBRA F7 Hybrid (22) - Aldila Tour Blue 85s

Iron:  MIZUNO MP 245 (5 - G) - Recoil Proto 125 F4
Wedge:  MIZUNO T24 Denim Copper (54/10) - Recoil Wedge Proto F4     
Wedge:  TAYLORMADE Hi-Toe Copper (60/10) - KBS Hi Rev 2.0 

Putter:  LAJOSI DD201 Copper Flow or MANNKRAFTED MA-55 Flow
Bag:  BENNINGTON LQO-9 Stand Bag

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hit both today even though my swing has been in shambles. my good hits w the cobras felt better to me than my good hits with the p790. the launch was considerably higher from the TM. both had the recoil ES 780 in them.

 

still interested in doing a full fitting with both, with same lengths and lie angles.

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From the sound of backorder stories, if you want to play golf in 2018, Id recommend the Cobras.

Aerojet 10.5, turned to 9.5*-  Ventus Blue TR 6x
Cobra F9 3w - Atmos TS Blue 7x
T300 4i (19*) - UST Recoil 95 F4
Srixon 565/765 Combo 5-PW - Project X 5.5hs
SM5 50,54,58,62 - F,K,S Grinds - Rifle 6.0
Odyssey OTR putter
TP5x

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I don't have any extensive experience with the 790s, but I'm liking my Forged Tec Black irons. I've had them for about a week. No rounds yet, but multiple range trips. The finish on them is bulletproof.

Callaway Paradym Triple 💎 10.5* Ventus Blue 6X/TR 6S
Titleist TSR2 16.5* (Set to 15.75*) Tour AD DI 7S
Titleist TSR2 18* Hybrid Tour AD IZ 85S
Titleist u505 4i (21*) Tour AD DI 95S

Srixon Zx7 MK II 5-PW, 51* AW - Modus 105S
Callaway Jaws 56*-Jaws Full Toe 60*-  DG 115 TI S200

Toulon Garage Custom Las Vegas H7 35”

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  • 2 weeks later...

One more point: which one has the least rollout once the ball lands? In irons, control is just as important as distance.

 

Trackman and testing will get you down to a couple of finalists. From there, go with the one which "feels best" when you stand over the ball at address.

What's In The Bag (As of April 2023, post-MAX change + new putter)

 

Driver:  Tour Edge EXS 10.5° (base loft); weights neutral   ||  FWs:  Calla Rogue 4W + 7W

Hybrid:  Calla Big Bertha OS 4H at 22°  ||  Irons:  Calla Mavrik MAX 5i-PW

Wedges*:  Calla MD3: 48°... MD4: 54°, 58° ||  PutterΨSeeMore FGP + SuperStroke 1.0PT, 33" shaft

Ball: 1. Srixon Q-Star Tour / 2. Calla SuperHot (Orange preferred)  ||  Bag: Sun Mountain Three 5 stand bag

    * MD4 54°/10 S-Grind replaced MD3 54°/12 W-Grind.

     Ψ  Backups:

  • Ping Sigma G Tyne (face-balanced) + Evnroll Gravity Grip |
  • Slotline Inertial SL-583F w/ SuperStroke 2.MidSlim (50 gr. weight removed) |
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I’ve owned both, P790’s are excellent but the Forged Tec blacks completely blow them out of the water imo. Wayyyyyy more forgiving, excellent true Forged feel and much more consistent, especially with spin. To each their own but for me, the Forged Tec Blacks are too good to pass up, especially with Cobra Connect. You can’t lose.

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Sick looking sets, both of them!

[color=#ff0000][b]Driver: [/b][/color]Callaway GBB 9.5* (Project X HZRDUS Black 76g 6.5X)
[color=#ff0000][b]Hybrid: [/b][/color]Taylormade RBZ 19* (Fujikura Speeder TS H9.8)
[color=#ff0000][b]Irons: [/b][/color] Callaway Apex'14 4-PW (DG X100)
[color=#ff0000][b]Wedges: [/b][/color]Nike SV Tour (DG S400)
[color=#ff0000][b]Putter: [/b][/color]Odyssey Tank Cruiser #7
[b][color=#ff0000]Balls: [/color][/b]Srixon ZstarXV

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Just got mine yesterday with $-Taper Blacks in the S+.

Honestly are one of the softest irons I’ve hit.

Whatever they did with the carbon badge works very well.

Not a large head with some offset.

The shafts are better than my Modus 120’s(Never thought I’d move from the Nippon’s).

The only issue is the face of the 7-iron has spots where the DBM treating did not take. The face looks blotchy, so I am waiting on Cobra to reply to my concern.

Some how this year I have migrated to mostly cobra,except for the Cally wedges and Bettinardi putter.

I’m done Ho-ing. I will be selling everything else I have and play this bag all year.

I have hit the P790s and they do hit the ball farther,but thats the only benefit to those Irons over the Tec Blacks. Feel, consistency, looks and playability all go to the Tecs, IMHO.

38 1/2  5-iron and all came in at D2. Never had a TM set in the last 5 years that similar.

Rox

2023 in the Bag!


Rogue Max Ls 9°/HZRDUS Gen 4 Black 6.5 70<br  />TSi2 15°/Aldila Green 75X<br/>Epic Flash 21°/Tour Green 75X<br/>Maltby TS1-iM 4-6 iron Modus 115X<br/>

Honma 747V/DG120-S400 7-PW<br/>Jaws 50°, 54° & 58°/DG Tour Issue S400<br/>Scotty Cameron 5.5M<br />Callaway Chrome Soft and
Sun Moutain C130/ClicGear Rovic cart with Alphard E-Wheels V2
 

 

Backups:

Bridgestone Tour-B X-CB/DG120 S400 Tour Issue 5-PW

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Ive owned both, P790s are excellent but the Forged Tec blacks completely blow them out of the water imo. Wayyyyyy more forgiving, excellent true Forged feel and much more consistent, especially with spin. To each their own but for me, the Forged Tec Blacks are too good to pass up, especially with Cobra Connect. You cant lose.

Damn those Cobras looks dope.

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ordered some cobra FTB today, 5-AW. Tested vs p790 with the Recoil 780 stiff in each. while the p790 may have been longer on the purest of pure strikes, I did get some funny ones that were crazy long. I only tested 7 irons but some of the talk about the 7i to 8i gap made me a little nervous. plus I preferred the looks and feel of the cobras. even thin strikes just got out there

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Just got mine yesterday with $-Taper Blacks in the S+.

Honestly are one of the softest irons Iâve hit.

Whatever they did with the carbon badge works very well.

Not a large head with some offset.

The shafts are better than my Modus 120âs(Never thought Iâd move from the Nipponâs).

The only issue is the face of the 7-iron has spots where the DBM treating did not take. The face looks blotchy, so I am waiting on Cobra to reply to my concern.

Some how this year I have migrated to mostly cobra,except for the Cally wedges and Bettinardi putter.

Iâm done Ho-ing. I will be selling everything else I have and play this bag all year.

I have hit the P790s and they do hit the ball farther,but thats the only benefit to those Irons over the Tec Blacks. Feel, consistency, looks and playability all go to the Tecs, IMHO.

38 1/2â 5-iron and all came in at D2. Never had a TM set in the last 5 years that similar.

Rox

 

Upon inspection of my new irons, the 6 and 9 Irons have areas where the DBM coating is blotchy and white. It’s on the face of the 6 and stop edge of the 9

Iron.

One email to Canada’s Cobra rep with pics of the irons and they are sending me new replacement irons and I can play these until the replacements arrive. I sent the the email late last night and had a reply first thing this morning.

THAT customer service alone is a major reason to choose Cobra/PUMA above others.

So impressed!

Did I mention the Black $-Tapers look incredible and feel as good:-)

Rox

2023 in the Bag!


Rogue Max Ls 9°/HZRDUS Gen 4 Black 6.5 70<br  />TSi2 15°/Aldila Green 75X<br/>Epic Flash 21°/Tour Green 75X<br/>Maltby TS1-iM 4-6 iron Modus 115X<br/>

Honma 747V/DG120-S400 7-PW<br/>Jaws 50°, 54° & 58°/DG Tour Issue S400<br/>Scotty Cameron 5.5M<br />Callaway Chrome Soft and
Sun Moutain C130/ClicGear Rovic cart with Alphard E-Wheels V2
 

 

Backups:

Bridgestone Tour-B X-CB/DG120 S400 Tour Issue 5-PW

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Just got mine yesterday with $-Taper Blacks in the S+.

Honestly are one of the softest irons Iâve hit.

Whatever they did with the carbon badge works very well.

Not a large head with some offset.

The shafts are better than my Modus 120âs(Never thought Iâd move from the Nipponâs).

The only issue is the face of the 7-iron has spots where the DBM treating did not take. The face looks blotchy, so I am waiting on Cobra to reply to my concern.

Some how this year I have migrated to mostly cobra,except for the Cally wedges and Bettinardi putter.

Iâm done Ho-ing. I will be selling everything else I have and play this bag all year.

I have hit the P790s and they do hit the ball farther,but thats the only benefit to those Irons over the Tec Blacks. Feel, consistency, looks and playability all go to the Tecs, IMHO.

38 1/2â 5-iron and all came in at D2. Never had a TM set in the last 5 years that similar.

Rox

 

Upon inspection of my new irons, the 6 and 9 Irons have areas where the DBM coating is blotchy and white. It’s on the face of the 6 and stop edge of the 9

Iron.

One email to Canada’s Cobra rep with pics of the irons and they are sending me new replacement irons and I can play these until the replacements arrive. I sent the the email late last night and had a reply first thing this morning.

THAT customer service alone is a major reason to choose Cobra/PUMA above others.

So impressed!

Did I mention the Black $-Tapers look incredible and feel as good:-)

Rox

 

I just want to add +1 for Cobra / Puma Golf customer service. They have been great help and very generous. I am a Cobra fan boy for life just based on their customer service.

 

 

 

 

Callaway (OG) Rogue SZ

TS2 Fairways

JPX 919 Tour (4-PW)

RTX4's 50, 56

BETTI QB6

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Here’s my bad boys!

 

 

 

 

Driver:  MIZUNO ST-G 440 (11.5d) - UST Lin-Q M40X Red 60s

Fwy:  MIZUNO ST-G Titanium 3w (15) - UST Lin-Q M40X Red 60s

Fwy:  COBRA F6 Baffler (19) - Project X Hzrdus Red 75/6.0
Hybrid:  COBRA F7 Hybrid (22) - Aldila Tour Blue 85s

Iron:  MIZUNO MP 245 (5 - G) - Recoil Proto 125 F4
Wedge:  MIZUNO T24 Denim Copper (54/10) - Recoil Wedge Proto F4     
Wedge:  TAYLORMADE Hi-Toe Copper (60/10) - KBS Hi Rev 2.0 

Putter:  LAJOSI DD201 Copper Flow or MANNKRAFTED MA-55 Flow
Bag:  BENNINGTON LQO-9 Stand Bag

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