With irons where do you place the ball at address (heel side, middle, toe side)?

erock9174erock9174 North Canton, OHMembers Posts: 3,963 ✭✭
I tried to do a search but everything kept coming up with where to place the ball in your stance which I am not looking for.



I am curious where people setup to the ball in relation to the club face? Extreme heel side, slight heel side, middle, slight toe side, extreme toe side?



I was fitted for some G700 6-UW irons and lately haven't been able to hit the 7 and 6 irons worth a lick. So much so that I am contemplating going back to my old irons.



I always setup to the ball with the ball in the middle of the iron blade but today after hitting some poor shots tried moving the ball slightly to the heel side. This seemed to help things for the better. Better sound/feel, better contact, higher flight, less duffs, etc.

Hoping I am onto something with the change. So I am curious to see where others setup to the ball.



Thanks

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  • BarfolomewBarfolomew #worstWRXer Members Posts: 1,401 ✭✭
    always middle...adjust club path to effect flight
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  • wkuo3wkuo3 RELEASE Members Posts: 4,063 ✭✭
    Tap the club face with the eraser end of a pencil. Where it centered will be where I address the golf ball.



    Modern irons with parameter weighing usually have it centered in the face , older irons might have this toward the heel.

    Check your alignment with help from someone else. I had encountered many golfers thought they center the driver face to the golf ball, but in reality, they had the golf ball toward the heel. Someone stand inline behind the target line could make out if you address the golf ball at the spot you thought you did.
  • bcsquarebcsquare Members Posts: 293 ✭✭
    In my pre-shot routine, I have to make sure my shoulders and hips are square. So I put the club down with the ball at the toe, square up which moves the club out to a heel side address.



    This is something I had to incorporate from lessons. I fought a pull for a long time which was related to path issues. I used to strike the toe often but now it's center or a bit heel side.
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  • Bobb3rdownBobb3rdown Bothell, WAMembers Posts: 624 ✭✭
    bcsquare wrote:


    In my pre-shot routine, I have to make sure my shoulders and hips are square. So I put the club down with the ball at the toe, square up which moves the club out to a heel side address.



    This is something I had to incorporate from lessons. I fought a pull for a long time which was related to path issues. I used to strike the toe often but now it's center or a bit heel side.
    I've been noticing I hit the toe quite a bit as well. So setting up toward the heel of the club has helped you strike more center?
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  • CwebbCwebb Members Posts: 5,959 ✭✭
    There's been great ball strikers who address it towards the toe and others who address it towards the heel. Some of it has to do with how "long" we set our arms at address and how much "tension" is there. Those who set up with less "stretch" in their arms and more relaxed, will tend to have the club head return further "out" than it started at address,.....because the force of the downswing will pull the arms out from their relaxed starting position.....which would usually lead to better results from the ball being addressed further out on the club face. This is how George Knudson, one of the purest strikers of all time, explained why he addressed it towards the toe.



    The key is once you "settle" on your swing characteristics, do detailed impact pattern testing to see what your tendencies are. Then experiment from there.
  • wkuo3wkuo3 RELEASE Members Posts: 4,063 ✭✭
    Bobb3rdown wrote:

    bcsquare wrote:


    In my pre-shot routine, I have to make sure my shoulders and hips are square. So I put the club down with the ball at the toe, square up which moves the club out to a heel side address.



    This is something I had to incorporate from lessons. I fought a pull for a long time which was related to path issues. I used to strike the toe often but now it's center or a bit heel side.
    I've been noticing I hit the toe quite a bit as well. So setting up toward the heel of the club has helped you strike more center?




    Have someone look at your golf swing. Whatever it was, caused the toe hit . Could be one or multiple of reasons.
  • MadGolfer76MadGolfer76 Admiration is the state furthest from understanding. Members Posts: 19,977 ✭✭
    I set up slightly to the heel side.
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  • MikeskiMikeski ClubWRX Posts: 303 ✭✭
    I set up with the ball at the heel/hosel which makes me hit dead center of the club face on my downswing. This is only with my irons. The woods are lined up at the center of the club face. This past winter I experimented with different ball positions just to see where my consistency was and lining up at the heel/hosel was it.

    Sounds like you figured it out. You set up where you think you'll make better contact with your new irons.
  • semarlorsemarlor Charlotte, NCMembers Posts: 661 ✭✭
    Middle on the irons but toe side with my driver. Don't know why I just tried it one day and was striping it.
  • CwebbCwebb Members Posts: 5,959 ✭✭
    semarlor wrote:


    Middle on the irons but toe side with my driver. Don't know why I just tried it one day and was striping it.




    The "hotspot" is slightly toe side for nearly all modern drivers,...whereas the sweet-spot for irons is dead center or slightly heel side.



    Also, when addressing a teed up ball, if we start the head near the ground, but return to impact at the higher teed ball position, the head will 'all else equal' return further out. This promotes contact that is further out on the face, then we "think" we should based on address
  • Golf64Golf64 Go Habs Go! Ontario, CanadaMembers Posts: 7,746 ✭✭
    Middle for me. Might be a swing flaw OP, or clubs are too long?!
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  • cmagnussoncmagnusson Members Posts: 479 ✭✭
    I'm about a quarter ball toe-side of middle with my 5 iron, and move heel-wards slightly through the set to where I'm about 3/4 of a ball heel-side on full wedge shots. Woods and Hybrids I'm dead in the middle.



    Just go to the range and screw around until you find what works for your swing.
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  • bcsquarebcsquare Members Posts: 293 ✭✭
    wkuo3 wrote:

    Bobb3rdown wrote:

    bcsquare wrote:


    In my pre-shot routine, I have to make sure my shoulders and hips are square. So I put the club down with the ball at the toe, square up which moves the club out to a heel side address.



    This is something I had to incorporate from lessons. I fought a pull for a long time which was related to path issues. I used to strike the toe often but now it's center or a bit heel side.
    I've been noticing I hit the toe quite a bit as well. So setting up toward the heel of the club has helped you strike more center?




    Have someone look at your golf swing. Whatever it was, caused the toe hit . Could be one or multiple of reasons.




    The above post is what I'd tell you as well. Lessons have been the best investment over equipment.



    I do strike more center and toe strikes are very uncommon now. However the set up was one of the results of correcting swing path and working on compressing the ball.
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  • erock9174erock9174 North Canton, OHMembers Posts: 3,963 ✭✭
    Thanks everyone. I used a sharpie line on the ball with my 7i today and when setting up with ball in the middle the strikes we’re middle to toe side. With ball slightly towards the heel my impact was more concentrated in the center of the face.

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    Irons: Ping G700 6-UW
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    Putter: Ping Sigma G Tyne H


  • lawsonmanlawsonman Members Posts: 5,426 ✭✭


    I set up slightly to the heel side.




    This^
    Welcome to where dumb opinions are better than no opinion. :)

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  • JohnnypensoJohnnypenso Ooooh, that's a duff. Members Posts: 202 ✭✭
    Probably about a half inch towards the toe with all clubs. My arms are very relaxed at address and I think I extend slightly with the full swing. That's my theory anyway.
  • tips09tips09 Members Posts: 269 ✭✭
    lawsonman wrote:



    I set up slightly to the heel side.




    This^


    +1 as well.
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  • Lord HelmetLord Helmet Members Posts: 8,773 ✭✭
    Heel side with everything
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  • ChipNRunChipNRun Members Posts: 1,428 ✭✭
    An additional factor is proper shaft length. A couple of fittings suggest my irons are about 1/4" too short. I tend to contact my irons on the toe end of the club.



    Here's the alignment adjustment I made to get more center hits:



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  • baudibaudi Members Posts: 653 ✭✭
    Depending on trajectory.

    Fade: towards heel

    Draw: towards toe.
  • BiggErnBiggErn Members Posts: 2,452 ✭✭
    Plenty of great golfers address the ball somewhere other than the center of the clubface. If you’re hitting it a little off toe and lining up on the heel puts your contact in the center then go for it.
  • ValtielValtiel Konica-Minolta Bizhub Members Posts: 2,283 ✭✭
    I address the ball exactly where I plan to hit it.









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  • Lord HelmetLord Helmet Members Posts: 8,773 ✭✭
    Valtiel wrote:
    I address the ball exactly where I plan to hit it.









    Hosel.




    That sir is pure genius.
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  • 1b!ggolfnut1b!ggolfnut Members Posts: 160 ✭✭
    I hit it best lining the ball up on the heel.
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