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But I don't think he'd use that language on twitter unless he was 100%.

 

Recent experience should teach us all that there are people in far more important positions than a PGA tour pro who tweet billy bollocks lies all day long.

 

Kang cheating might have kept Tiger out of the Bridgestone unless he goes Top 10 at the Open.

 

Alleged cheating. And alleged karma from TPC a few years back...

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I think JD is saying he did not hit the ball that far. It draw as your yellow line suggests, but didn't carry far enough to get up by the green.

 

 

shot tracker has SK hitting the ball 239 yards. SK dropped well back of that point, where he thought it crossed. JD's claim is that the ball's flight never crossed the hazard line where he dropped.

 

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Saying someone cheated is a strong claim.

 

Couldn't the other guy claim bias and say he wanted me to make a higher score so he could move up and make more money?

 

Do you even play golf? Seriously.

 

The game is built on integrity and honesty. Sounds to me like a run of the mill cheat if JD is correct. Like everyone else I'd like to see the footage first. But I don't think he'd use that language on twitter unless he was 100%. There doesn't need to be any bias, the drop was either within the bounds of the rules or it was not.

 

Ok. I'll bite. Yes big guy I play golf. Can you read? I didn't say there was bias. I Said. Someone could say there was bias.

 

The Only thing I said was. Saying someone cheated is a strong thing to say.

 

The point I was making off the back of your comment is that I think it's wrong to assume that his motive was ranking/$$$ driven. That's not really something you see in pro golfers.

 

 

While I agree with that, it leaves open the question as to why Kang would have cheated. Surely, that would have been ranking and $$$ driven as well. Maybe he did it for sh!ts and g!ggles, but I doubt it.

 

So that kind of flies in the face of your "have you even played golf" and "integrity" points.

 

Five things:

  1. I believe there are cameras running on every hole. How else do we get to see some low-level player hole out from the fairway on occasion?
  2. Dahmen should not have used the word cheater. That's a really serious charge. Especially hours later on Twitter when he should have calmed down. He should have said something along the lines of "I was sure it never crossed the hazard line there".
  3. Shot Tracker doesn't show curves.
  4. It's really hard to say exactly where a ball crossed the hazard line from > 200 yds away. Especially if both the ball and the line have curves, and the ball is still up in the air. At least it is for me.
  5. Dahmen should never, NEVER have signed the card if he's going to call him a cheat. Like not ever. Never.

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^^^ I agree with this. If you disagree with a ruling and want to rant about it....be my guest i suppose. But the language you use is very important, he can say he disagreed with the ruling and was overruled.

 

But he can't call someone a cheater when an official blessed what happened and he signed the scorecard. He comes of like a bitter twitter idiot, and as mentioned Kang would be within his rights to at least threaten to come back at him for libel. especially given that endorsements are such a big part of player income and reputation matters in this space.

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There are people that cheat all the time and get to the point that is just how they play golf and they don't even think of it as cheating.

 

I'll give Kang the benefit of doubt, since it's really tough to judge things like this at times. Either one of those guys could have things like astigmatisms that have been corrected and their depth perceptions could be messed up.

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This is an unfortunate situation for both of them. It looks bad for Dahmen for simply not understanding how it was going to play out in the end. It's up to the player's judgment, that's the way it plays out with the official in the absence of other good evidence. Especially on tour, with all the cameras, is it reasonable to assume Kang would run that risk of overplaying his hand?

 

That's the way Dahmen should have thought about it at the time. There were good prospects for some other evidence to come out if it really was a bad drop, but I can recall lots of other instances of this happening on tour. Even if you're absolutely sure in your own mind, you have to realize that in those circumstances you're making the call that you're 100% correct and the other guy is mistaken, even though the odds you're wrong are as high as the probability that the other player is actually correct. His responsibility and best option was to let the Tour official know that he felt the ball flight was different, but in those circumstances Dahmen can't be as sure of the ball flight as he apparently thinks he is. It was a mistake to take to Twitter to call him a cheater. You have to give a fellow player the benefit of the doubt in that set of circumstances. It's terrible to have a reputation as a cheat on Tour, but having a reputation for bad judgment is probably in the same ballpark when it comes to your relationships with other players. Who wouldn't want to avoid being paired with that guy if you're not driving it straight that day? It's one thing to be a stand up guy. It's entirely different to be a guy that stands up at the wrong time, and doesn't know the difference.

 

When you attest to someone's score, that's supposed to mean something as well. If he hadn't signed the card, at least I'd really get the sense he was standing for something he really believed in. I'd much rather have seen him just say, "I didn't sign the card.", rather than "he cheated". Sullying someone's reputation by calling them a cheater, if mistaken, is a much worse move than making an honest mistake about ball flight in a drop situation.

 

I hope Kang stands up for himself and comes out with a rebuttal, because you should stand up for yourself when someone tries to kick you to the gutter.

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Bad look for Dahmen to call Kang out as a cheater on Twitter. I trust he said the same to his face when they were discussing it on the course, but I doubt that happened. Agree this is a judgment call, unlike a bad mark, or improper drop where crossing a hazard is not in question. Should be interesting to see what Kang's response is, but I'd think Dahmen will apologize beforehand. And, no, he shouldn't have signed the scorecard if he felt this strongly about it.

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Y'all are quick to jump on Dahmen for using strong language. I look at it another way; i dont think he would stick his neck on the line unless he felt very strongly about the situation. He is trying to protect the field which i can respect. Clearly he had a good view if he is going to argue about it for 20 minutes when it has no impact on his paycheck or status.

 

Cheaters need to be called out and held accountable.

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Saying someone cheated is a strong claim.

 

Couldn't the other guy claim bias and say he wanted me to make a higher score so he could move up and make more money?

 

Do you even play golf? Seriously.

 

The game is built on integrity and honesty. Sounds to me like a run of the mill cheat if JD is correct. Like everyone else I'd like to see the footage first. But I don't think he'd use that language on twitter unless he was 100%. There doesn't need to be any bias, the drop was either within the bounds of the rules or it was not.

 

Why, because no one who ever had a strong opinion on twitter is wrong?

 

Kang would be within his rights to sue in this case. Much as Mickelson threatened to sue over being called a cheater for using the Eye2

 

Either he can prove it or he can't. If he can't he shouldn't post opinion as fact. And since it was blessed by an official I'd side with Kang here pending further evidence

Agreed with every word.

Makes JD look really bad.

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Bad look for Dahmen to call Kang out as a cheater on Twitter. I trust he said the same to his face when they were discussing it on the course, but I doubt that happened.

What do you think they were talking about for 20 minutes while they let the group behind play through? Yes, some time might have been spent walking, but...

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Y'all are quick to jump on Dahmen for using strong language. I look at it another way; i dont think he would stick his neck on the line unless he felt very strongly about the situation. He is trying to protect the field which i can respect. Clearly he had a good view if he is going to argue about it for 20 minutes when it has no impact on his paycheck or status.

 

Cheaters need to be called out and held accountable.

 

The reason he's being jumped on is because there is an official whose job it is to make rulings and he made one in this case that favored the drop Kang took. Dahmen is welcome to disagree with it and say he disagrees with it.

 

I don't understand the logic of "well he said something forcefully so it must be true". Is that how it works? Whoever makes the boldest claim is likely right? I shudder thinking of a world where this is commonly accepted. I wonder if men feel the same way about say, sexual harrassment complaints.

 

If you are looking at the facts at hand, they suggest Kang is right. If only because the official sided with him.

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Y'all are quick to jump on Dahmen for using strong language. I look at it another way; i dont think he would stick his neck on the line unless he felt very strongly about the situation. He is trying to protect the field which i can respect. Clearly he had a good view if he is going to argue about it for 20 minutes when it has no impact on his paycheck or status.

 

Cheaters need to be called out and held accountable.

It's not cheating if the official sides with your viewpoint.

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Y'all are quick to jump on Dahmen for using strong language. I look at it another way; i dont think he would stick his neck on the line unless he felt very strongly about the situation. He is trying to protect the field which i can respect. Clearly he had a good view if he is going to argue about it for 20 minutes when it has no impact on his paycheck or status.

 

Cheaters need to be called out and held accountable.

 

The reason he's being jumped on is because there is an official whose job it is to make rulings and he made one in this case that favored the drop Kang took. Dahmen is welcome to disagree with it and say he disagrees with it.

 

I don't understand the logic of "well he said something forcefully so it must be true". Is that how it works? Whoever makes the boldest claim is likely right? I shudder thinking of a world where this is commonly accepted. I wonder if men feel the same way about say, sexual harrassment complaints.

 

If you are looking at the facts at hand, they suggest Kang is right. If only because the official sided with him.

Often times the louder someone yells the more right (they think) they are :)

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Y'all are quick to jump on Dahmen for using strong language. I look at it another way; i dont think he would stick his neck on the line unless he felt very strongly about the situation. He is trying to protect the field which i can respect. Clearly he had a good view if he is going to argue about it for 20 minutes when it has no impact on his paycheck or status.

 

Cheaters need to be called out and held accountable.

 

The reason he's being jumped on is because there is an official whose job it is to make rulings and he made one in this case that favored the drop Kang took. Dahmen is welcome to disagree with it and say he disagrees with it.

 

I don't understand the logic of "well he said something forcefully so it must be true". Is that how it works? Whoever makes the boldest claim is likely right? I shudder thinking of a world where this is commonly accepted. I wonder if men feel the same way about say, sexual harrassment complaints.

 

If you are looking at the facts at hand, they suggest Kang is right. If only because the official sided with him.

I said it before and we'll say it again. My interpretation of the rules is that the official siding with Kang only indicates that in Kang's judgment the ball crossed up by the green, not that the official felt King's judgment was better than JD's. Just because the rules assume that players play with integrity doesn't mean that all of them do. I wasn't there so I'm not saying Kang cheated, but the official siding with him means nothing.

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Y'all are quick to jump on Dahmen for using strong language. I look at it another way; i dont think he would stick his neck on the line unless he felt very strongly about the situation. He is trying to protect the field which i can respect. Clearly he had a good view if he is going to argue about it for 20 minutes when it has no impact on his paycheck or status.

 

Cheaters need to be called out and held accountable.

 

The reason he's being jumped on is because there is an official whose job it is to make rulings and he made one in this case that favored the drop Kang took. Dahmen is welcome to disagree with it and say he disagrees with it.

 

I don't understand the logic of "well he said something forcefully so it must be true". Is that how it works? Whoever makes the boldest claim is likely right? I shudder thinking of a world where this is commonly accepted. I wonder if men feel the same way about say, sexual harrassment complaints.

 

If you are looking at the facts at hand, they suggest Kang is right. If only because the official sided with him.

The official had no choice but to side with him, the official did not see the shot.

 

I see no reason why JD would be so adamant unless he was 100% certain. This is a very rare occurrence on the tour for a player to speak up about a line of flight drop.

 

I am not saying that just b/c he is forceful or adamant that makes him correct. But it is worth considering....

 

I am not calling Kang a cheater, but i think if it was an iffy drop most people would shutup and move on. Clearly JD felt like falling on the sword was worth it in this instance.

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Y'all are quick to jump on Dahmen for using strong language. I look at it another way; i dont think he would stick his neck on the line unless he felt very strongly about the situation. He is trying to protect the field which i can respect. Clearly he had a good view if he is going to argue about it for 20 minutes when it has no impact on his paycheck or status.

 

Cheaters need to be called out and held accountable.

 

The reason he's being jumped on is because there is an official whose job it is to make rulings and he made one in this case that favored the drop Kang took. Dahmen is welcome to disagree with it and say he disagrees with it.

 

I don't understand the logic of "well he said something forcefully so it must be true". Is that how it works? Whoever makes the boldest claim is likely right? I shudder thinking of a world where this is commonly accepted. I wonder if men feel the same way about say, sexual harrassment complaints.

 

If you are looking at the facts at hand, they suggest Kang is right. If only because the official sided with him.

The official had no choice but to side with him, the official did not see the shot.

 

I see no reason why JD would be so adamant unless he was 100% certain. This is a very rare occurrence on the tour for a player to speak up about a line of flight drop.

 

I am not saying that just b/c he is forceful or adamant that makes him correct. But it is worth considering....

 

I am not calling Kang a cheater, but i think if it was an iffy drop most people would shutup and move on. Clearly JD felt like falling on the sword was worth it in this instance.

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Y'all are quick to jump on Dahmen for using strong language. I look at it another way; i dont think he would stick his neck on the line unless he felt very strongly about the situation. He is trying to protect the field which i can respect. Clearly he had a good view if he is going to argue about it for 20 minutes when it has no impact on his paycheck or status.

 

Cheaters need to be called out and held accountable.

 

The reason he's being jumped on is because there is an official whose job it is to make rulings and he made one in this case that favored the drop Kang took. Dahmen is welcome to disagree with it and say he disagrees with it.

 

I don't understand the logic of "well he said something forcefully so it must be true". Is that how it works? Whoever makes the boldest claim is likely right? I shudder thinking of a world where this is commonly accepted. I wonder if men feel the same way about say, sexual harrassment complaints.

 

If you are looking at the facts at hand, they suggest Kang is right. If only because the official sided with him.

The official had no choice but to side with him, the official did not see the shot.

 

I see no reason why JD would be so adamant unless he was 100% certain. This is a very rare occurrence on the tour for a player to speak up about a line of flight drop.

 

I am not saying that just b/c he is forceful or adamant that makes him correct. But it is worth considering....

 

I am not calling Kang a cheater, but i think if it was an iffy drop most people would shutup and move on. Clearly JD felt like falling on the sword was worth it in this instance.

 

It is certainly worth considering, it's a factor no question. It does seem strange.....however people ARE strange! You have met many people i assume, haven't you ever met people and wondered "What the F is with this guy?".

 

I have seen high level executives lie about things for no or minimal personal gain in business settings. Maybe he wanted to be a whistleblower, maybe the conversation they had got heated and this was payback....all of these things should be considered too. I have no idea who Joel Dahmen is, neither do you. Maybe he's a lunatic

 

My point is just that a ruling was made that favors Kang. There's no evidence he cheated. So until i see evidence i'm gonna say Kang should threaten to sue this guy

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Y'all are quick to jump on Dahmen for using strong language. I look at it another way; i dont think he would stick his neck on the line unless he felt very strongly about the situation. He is trying to protect the field which i can respect. Clearly he had a good view if he is going to argue about it for 20 minutes when it has no impact on his paycheck or status.

 

Cheaters need to be called out and held accountable.

 

He signed the card which means he endorses the score as correct. Can't have it both ways.

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based on what he saw, JD could 100% believe SK willfully and knowingly took an illegal drop.

 

based on what HE saw, SK could 100% believe he took a correct drop.

 

both players went (-3) on the back 9 to finish, so this situation obviously didn't negatively affect their games. i actually find this incredible. i had to call out someone for taking an illegal drop last year in a club tournament. my game (and his) promptly went in the toilet because of the confrontation.

 

 

a signed scorecard and the official's ruling are the determining factors for me to this point. will be interested if there is any further info that comes out.

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Y'all are quick to jump on Dahmen for using strong language. I look at it another way; i dont think he would stick his neck on the line unless he felt very strongly about the situation. He is trying to protect the field which i can respect. Clearly he had a good view if he is going to argue about it for 20 minutes when it has no impact on his paycheck or status.

 

Cheaters need to be called out and held accountable.

It's not cheating if the official sides with your viewpoint.

 

It is possible that the official believed that both golfers saw what they saw. Without other evidence or testimony, it would be hard to rule against Kang. It's basically a "he-said-he-said" deal. However, if Kang lied to the official, then he cheated.

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Sounds to me like a run of the mill cheat if JD is correct.

 

here's joel's shot tracker. his tee shot was well right of sung kang's tee shot. unless he walked over to get a better view, from his angle, there is *literally* no way he could tell where the ball crossed.

 

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This was my first thought when I looked at the Shotlinks. I walked past them and saw them arguing. JD was very clearly not happy at all. It was a strange sight. Dahmen is the guy who tweeted a while back that watching Tiger drive the ball was entertaining because you never know where it's going to go. He is obviously not afraid to speak his mind. Calling someone a cheater is a bold move.

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There’s a guy on FB who says he was running the Shotlink on the hole and that he, three marshals and JD all saw it the same way, but the official took Kang’s word.

 

Apparently Kang said that he was 95% sure of where it crossed until the official told him he needed to be 100% sure or drop farther back, and miraculously, he was then 100% sure.

 

I have no issue with him being called out on this. These drops where the player takes an extra 100+ yards happen all the time and they’re bs. I’d love for guys to be a little less sure they can do it without consequences.

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There’s a guy on FB who says he was running the Shotlink on the hole and that he, three marshals and JD all saw it the same way, but the official took Kang’s word.

 

Apparently Kang said that he was 95% sure of where it crossed until the official told him he needed to be 100% sure or drop farther back, and miraculously, he was then 100% sure.

 

I have no issue with him being called out on this. These drops where the player takes an extra 100+ yards happen all the time and they’re bs. I’d love for guys to be a little less sure they can do it without consequences.

I saw that comment on FB too. Very interesting
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Y'all are quick to jump on Dahmen for using strong language. I look at it another way; i dont think he would stick his neck on the line unless he felt very strongly about the situation. He is trying to protect the field which i can respect. Clearly he had a good view if he is going to argue about it for 20 minutes when it has no impact on his paycheck or status.

 

Cheaters need to be called out and held accountable.

 

The reason he's being jumped on is because there is an official whose job it is to make rulings and he made one in this case that favored the drop Kang took. Dahmen is welcome to disagree with it and say he disagrees with it.

 

I don't understand the logic of "well he said something forcefully so it must be true". Is that how it works? Whoever makes the boldest claim is likely right? I shudder thinking of a world where this is commonly accepted. I wonder if men feel the same way about say, sexual harrassment complaints.

 

If you are looking at the facts at hand, they suggest Kang is right. If only because the official sided with him.

Often times the louder someone yells the more right (they think) they are :)

 

No kidding.

 

The only thing yelling loud makes you is loud!

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There’s a guy on FB who says he was running the Shotlink on the hole and that he, three marshals and JD all saw it the same way, but the official took Kang’s word.

 

Apparently Kang said that he was 95% sure of where it crossed until the official told him he needed to be 100% sure or drop farther back, and miraculously, he was then 100% sure.

 

I have no issue with him being called out on this. These drops where the player takes an extra 100+ yards happen all the time and they’re bs. I’d love for guys to be a little less sure they can do it without consequences.

 

Good intel, ggr.

 

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      Jesse Droemer - SoTX PGA Section POY - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      David Lipsky - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Martin Trainer - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Zac Blair - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Jacob Bridgeman - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Trace Crowe - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Jimmy Walker - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Daniel Berger - WITB(very mini) - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Chesson Hadley - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Callum McNeill - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Rhein Gibson - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Patrick Fishburn - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Peter Malnati - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Raul Pereda - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Gary Woodland WITB (New driver, iron shafts) – 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Padraig Harrington WITB – 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      Tom Hoge's custom Cameron - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Cameron putter - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Piretti putters - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Ping putter - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Kevin Dougherty's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Bettinardi putter - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Cameron putter - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Erik Barnes testing an all-black Axis1 putter – 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Tony Finau's new driver shaft – 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
       
       
       
       
       
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    • 2024 Valspar Championship WITB Photos (Thanks to bvmagic)- Discussion & Links to Photos
      This weeks WITB Pics are from member bvmagic (Brian). Brian's first event for WRX was in 2008 at Bayhill while in college. Thanks so much bv.
       
      Please put your comments or question on this thread. Links to all the threads are below...
       
       
       
       
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    • 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational - Discussion and Links to Photos
      Please put any questions or comments here
       
       
       
      General Albums
       
      2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational - Monday #1
      2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational - Monday #2
      2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational - Monday #3
       
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Matt (LFG) Every - WITB - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
      Sahith Theegala - WITB - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
       
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      New Cameron putters (and new "LD" grip) - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
      New Bettinardi MB & CB irons - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
      Custom Bettinardi API putter cover - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
      Custom Swag API covers - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
      New Golf Pride Reverse Taper grips - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
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    • 2024 Cognizant Classic - Discussion and Links to Photos
      Please put any questions or comments here
       
       
       
       
      General Albums
       
      2024 Cognizant Classic - Monday #1
      2024 Cognizant Classic - Monday #2
      2024 Cognizant Classic - Monday #3
      2024 Cognizant Classic - Monday #4
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Brandt Snedeker - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Max Greyserman - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Eric Cole - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Carl Yuan - WITb - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Russell Henley - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Justin Sun - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Alex Noren - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Shane Lowry - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Taylor Montgomery - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Jake Knapp (KnappTime_ltd) - WITB - - 2024 Cognizant Classic
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      New Super Stoke Pistol Lock 1.0 & 2.0 grips - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      LA Golf new insert putter - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      New Garsen Quad Tour 15 grip - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      New Swag covers - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Jacob Bridgeman's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Bud Cauley's custom Cameron putters - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Ryo Hisatsune's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Chris Kirk - new black Callaway Apex CB irons and a few Odyssey putters - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Alejandro Tosti's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Cognizant Classic
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
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    • 2024 Genesis Invitational - Discussion and Links to Photos
      Please put any questions or comments here
       
       
       
      General Albums
       
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Monday #1
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Monday #2
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Tuesday #1
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Tuesday #2
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Tuesday #3
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Tuesday #4
       
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Rory McIlroy - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Sepp Straka - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Patrick Rodgers - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Brendon Todd - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Denny McCarthy - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Corey Conners - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Chase Johnson - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tiger Woods - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tommy Fleetwood - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Matt Fitzpatrick - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Si Woo Kim - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Viktor Hovland - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Wyndham Clark - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Cam Davis - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Nick Taylor - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Ben Baller WITB update (New putter, driver, hybrid and shafts) – 2024 Genesis Invitational
       
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      New Vortex Golf rangefinder - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      New Fujikura Ventus shaft - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tiger Woods & TaylorMade "Sun Day Red" apparel launch event, product photos – 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tiger Woods Sun Day Red golf shoes - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Aretera shafts - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      New Toulon putters - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tiger Woods' new white "Sun Day Red" golf shoe prototypes – 2024 Genesis Invitational
       
       
       
       
       
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