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Hogan's "secret" deals with how he finally eliminated the hook from his swing that reared its head at the most inopportune times. It was an idea that he got one night and successfully implemented in one range session the next day according to him. It was found in the summer of 1947 when he returned home after his disappointing showing at the PGA Championship (R64) and before his victory at George May's tournament a few weeks later.

 

So if what you found doesn't deal with fixing his hook and wouldn't have been quickly implemented, you might have stumbled on something that was already a part of his action. He admitted that "the secret" probably wouldn't help most others as all of the previous swing pieces needed to be in place. Hogan was already an accomplished player before finding "the secret", winning the Vardon trophy and leading money winner multiple times and a major (1946 PGA). He regarded the US Open as the ultimate test of golf and finally won it the following year in 1948.

 

Comparing pre-secret vids, especially the ones shot for Power Golf at Augusta in the spring of 1947, with post secret vids can be very enlightening.

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Hogan's "secret" deals with how he finally eliminated the hook from his swing that reared its head at the most inopportune times. It was an idea that he got one night and successfully implemented in one range session the next day according to him. It was found in the summer of 1947 when he returned home after his disappointing showing at the PGA Championship (R64) and before his victory at George May's tournament a few weeks later.

 

So if what you found doesn't deal with fixing his hook and wouldn't have been quickly implemented, you might have stumbled on something that was already a part of his action. He admitted that "the secret" probably wouldn't help most others as all of the previous swing pieces needed to be in place. Hogan was already an accomplished player before finding "the secret", winning the Vardon trophy and leading money winner multiple times and a major (1946 PGA). He regarded the US Open as the ultimate test of golf and finally won it the following year in 1948.

 

Comparing pre-secret vids, especially the ones shot for Power Golf at Augusta in the spring of 1947, with post secret vids can be very enlightening.

 

You are right. Before he found the secret all his other moving parts where already superb. But the secret was the last piece of the jigsaw that made him a legend. You are also correct about the fact that I have stumbled on something that was already a part of his action.... PLUS "the secret". I too was a chronic hooker when under pressure or when my timing was off. So the little "thing" that fixed it when working with the rest of the "Hogan existing swing mechanics" was not something difficult to implement at all. Kinda like doing the "opposite" of what our instinct wants us to do. The grip, set-up and backswing will take care of the automated swinging of the shaft around the body. The secret is what manages the clubface stability throughout the hitting area.

 

p.s. looking at you avatar the secret is as clear as day

 

Yea, that's exactly why I have used that avatar for the last ten years. IMO, Hogan's clubface stability was achieved through a specific application of opposing grip pressures. It cured my hook many years ago ... works like a charm!

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Hogan's "secret" deals with how he finally eliminated the hook from his swing that reared its head at the most inopportune times. It was an idea that he got one night and successfully implemented in one range session the next day according to him. It was found in the summer of 1947 when he returned home after his disappointing showing at the PGA Championship (R64) and before his victory at George May's tournament a few weeks later.

 

So if what you found doesn't deal with fixing his hook and wouldn't have been quickly implemented, you might have stumbled on something that was already a part of his action. He admitted that "the secret" probably wouldn't help most others as all of the previous swing pieces needed to be in place. Hogan was already an accomplished player before finding "the secret", winning the Vardon trophy and leading money winner multiple times and a major (1946 PGA). He regarded the US Open as the ultimate test of golf and finally won it the following year in 1948.

 

Comparing pre-secret vids, especially the ones shot for Power Golf at Augusta in the spring of 1947, with post secret vids can be very enlightening.

 

You are right. Before he found the secret all his other moving parts where already superb. But the secret was the last piece of the jigsaw that made him a legend. You are also correct about the fact that I have stumbled on something that was already a part of his action.... PLUS "the secret". I too was a chronic hooker when under pressure or when my timing was off. So the little "thing" that fixed it when working with the rest of the "Hogan existing swing mechanics" was not something difficult to implement at all. Kinda like doing the "opposite" of what our instinct wants us to do. The grip, set-up and backswing will take care of the automated swinging of the shaft around the body. The secret is what manages the clubface stability throughout the hitting area.

 

p.s. looking at you avatar the secret is as clear as day

 

Yea, that's exactly why I have used that avatar for the last ten years. IMO, Hogan's clubface stability was achieved through a specific application of opposing grip pressures. It cured my hook many years ago ... works like a charm!

 

Have you ever noticed, if you keep your lead/left elbow pointing at the target by internal upper arm rotation, there is a physical limit to how much you can supinate the left forearm. And if you keep your upper right arm externally rotated there is a limit to the right forearm pronation?

 

There is range of motion but there are limits even if you apply maximum forearm rotation. Whereas with both upper arms neutral, if you wanted to, you could turn the face over...

The left arm ISR with left forearm supination is extremely difficult to execute at speed through impact. It also has a braking effect on arm triangle travel. However, maintaining some of the ESR of the right arm (or the CW winding of the right arm for a right hander) is much easier to accomplish and, IMO, is more evident in Hogan's post secret swing.

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I don't think he had a flat lead wrist at all and I don't think he 'freewheeled' it. I think he drove the club through impact. At least, visually it clearly looks like that to me.

 

1046.20HOG.04.jpg

 

Very flat sir. But for the not freewheeling looks of it i understand your point of view. It doesn't look like that cause he doesn't give out the vibe of swinging his hands and arms independently from his torso like many golfer does (think Bubba Watson and Ricky Fowler or Fred Couples). It just looks very connected because the little unique things he did in his set-up and backswing and "the secret" move he does in transition made his arms and body sync up or fall into place perfectly everytime while keeping his "HIT INSTINCT" intact hence the "three right hand comment". This could only be "felt" if you know how to do it. It is not clear to see on camera at all. It is a very abstract concept never covered in any golf book I've read. That is why his secret has been kept safe for the past decade in my humble opinion.

 

With that being said. I could be wrong and you could be correct as well. Like I said, until I have proven this theory by becoming pro all bets are still on. And I truly welcome any further discussions or critiques whether be positive nor negative sir. Cheers!

 

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I say ‘driven’ because I think the right arm extends with a lot of force and I don’t think it is flung straight by the turning body; I think he drives it out and hits with it. I think he swings his arms and club independently but synchronised with his body.

 

The lead wrist was in palmar flexion and supinating (predominantly) from arm at last parallel to club at last parallel, then (predominantly) supinating and dorsi flexing. I would say that at the moment of that photo, the wrist was ‘supinated’ and ‘palmar flexed’, I don’t believe he had a geometrically or even visually flat left wrist. His weak palm and finger left hand grip also lends its influence.

 

In the picture above his wrist is bent still, both in my opinion, visually, and it can be inferred as well, looking at the bent back right wrist. I think his wrist joints were always in motion. Never flat.

 

As for the three right hands comment, that was part of the ‘practice’ section of that section of the book. If you re-read it, his downswing thoughts are unturn left hip and hit through the ball. He then details FOR PRACTICE, the independent motions (left hand supination through palmar flexion; right hand side arm baseball throw) and then the joint handed motion (the medicine ball). The comment about three right hands is simply that in my opinion, a commentary. It fits with a concept of being straighter the harder you hit it, working with muscles that are flexed maximally to maintain similar feel day-to-day i.e. consistency (and the waggle to get ‘feel’ back, if you ‘feel’ you ‘don’t have it’ that particular day) and it fits with the grip section and the LIFE magazine ‘secret’ article.

 

IMO, his concept is the right hand (and the clubface) rolls over the left in the downswing. Hence the strong pivot, the weak left hand grip, the left hand in the palm, the weak right hand grip, the ‘bad guys in the Western’ and the ‘practically forget about the hands’ comments.

 

The comment is therefore saying something like this: ‘if you put the left hand on the club like this, release the club rolling it like this (part of the hook problem), and the right hand in a subservient position like this, as long as you hit hard with both hands, the right will never overpower the left. Because of the adjustments you have built in. Therefore *as long as you do this, and hit with the left hand* you will want the power of three right hands’.

 

In my opinion.

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I don't think he had a flat lead wrist at all and I don't think he 'freewheeled' it. I think he drove the club through impact. At least, visually it clearly looks like that to me.

 

1046.20HOG.04.jpg

 

Very flat sir. But for the not freewheeling looks of it i understand your point of view. It doesn't look like that cause he doesn't give out the vibe of swinging his hands and arms independently from his torso like many golfer does (think Bubba Watson and Ricky Fowler or Fred Couples). It just looks very connected because the little unique things he did in his set-up and backswing and "the secret" move he does in transition made his arms and body sync up or fall into place perfectly everytime while keeping his "HIT INSTINCT" intact hence the "three right hand comment". This could only be "felt" if you know how to do it. It is not clear to see on camera at all. It is a very abstract concept never covered in any golf book I've read. That is why his secret has been kept safe for the past decade in my humble opinion.

 

With that being said. I could be wrong and you could be correct as well. Like I said, until I have proven this theory by becoming pro all bets are still on. And I truly welcome any further discussions or critiques whether be positive nor negative sir. Cheers!

 

Imo

 

I say ‘driven’ because I think the right arm extends with a lot of force and I don’t think it is flung straight by the turning body; I think he drives it out and hits with it. I think he swings his arms and club independently but synchronised with his body.

 

The lead wrist was in palmar flexion and supinating (predominantly) from arm at last parallel to club at last parallel, then (predominantly) supinating and dorsi flexing. I would say that at the moment of that photo, the wrist was ‘supinated’ and ‘palmar flexed’, I don’t believe he had a geometrically or even visually flat left wrist. His weak palm and finger left hand grip also lends its influence.

 

In the picture above his wrist is bent still, both in my opinion, visually, and it can be inferred as well, looking at the bent back right wrist. I think his wrist joints were always in motion. Never flat.

 

As for the three right hands comment, that was part of the ‘practice’ section of that section of the book. If you re-read it, his downswing thoughts are unturn left hip and hit through the ball. He then details FOR PRACTICE, the independent motions (left hand supination through palmar flexion; right hand side arm baseball throw) and then the joint handed motion (the medicine ball). The comment about three right hands is simply that in my opinion, a commentary. It fits with a concept of being straighter the harder you hit it, working with muscles that are flexed maximally to maintain similar feel day-to-day i.e. consistency (and the waggle to get ‘feel’ back, if you ‘feel’ you ‘don’t have it’ that particular day) and it fits with the grip section and the LIFE magazine ‘secret’ article.

 

IMO, his concept is the right hand (and the clubface) rolls over the left in the downswing. Hence the strong pivot, the weak left hand grip, the left hand in the palm, the weak right hand grip, the ‘bad guys in the Western’ and the ‘practically forget about the hands’ comments.

 

The comment is therefore saying something like this: ‘if you put the left hand on the club like this, release the club rolling it like this (part of the hook problem), and the right hand in a subservient position like this, as long as you hit hard with both hands, the right will never overpower the left. Because of the adjustments you have built in. Therefore *as long as you do this, and hit with the left hand* you will want the power of three right hands’.

 

In my opinion.

 

IMO, the above pic illustrates exactly what I am contending ... the left hand is trying to turn CCW (supinate) with the last three fingers of the left hand while the right hand is trying to hold its DS CW winding (supination) motivated by the two middle fingers of the right hand. The left wrist PF is the result of these opposing torques. He talked about these grip pressure points in 5L but not how he worked them together as it wouldn’t have helped most of the non-hooking public.

 

The difference from post-secret and pre-secret is the two middle fingers of the right hand not entirely giving up their CW pressures. Thus there was no need to time the rolling of the right hand with the left through impact ... he could hit hard with both hands with a stable clubface. Takes only one range session to calibrate a stock shot ... other shapes can be accomplished with slight pressure changes.

 

Why else would Hogan have focused his stare at them on the dust jacket of the 1st edition of 5L? Another big hint is to look closely at where the V’s formed by the pincers of each hand point at address vs. impact. It’s easy to see if you know where to look!

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