MEMBER REVIEWS: Cleveland RTX 4 Wedges! See What Members Are Saying!

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Cleveland RTX 4 wedges and ready to report back with their findings. The members testing are...



jcorna01

rtraudt

sdandrea

DTown3011

Minarets

snagy2000

Spooky67

dek

J-Tizzle

M910



They will be posting their reviews shortly and make sure you ask them any questions you might have on the new RTX 4 wedges!
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  • mBiden2mBiden2 #15 and counting..... Atlanta, GAMembers Posts: 936 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Grats y’all on being selected to review the RTX 4. I’m really interested in seeing how each person likes them. I’ve thought about maybe switching to these this fall into next year. Gaming TM **** right now
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  • endyendy Members Posts: 3,277 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    Congrats! I never get that lucky haha! Looking forward to what you guys have to say.
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  • MinaretsMinarets Members Posts: 4,066 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    First, I would like to thank Golf WRX for the opportunity to review these. Never been selected over the 10+ years around here and never thought I would, so it CAN happen to you, too!





    On to the RTX4. I am a 7.7 HC and work a lot on my short game but could always get better, no doubt. I have never used a Cleveland wedge in all my years of golf. I’m 37 years old and been playing since i was 23. Used to think wedges didn’t really matter when I started playing and even up to about 8 years ago I thought i could get by with worn out grooves on old wedges. I remember reading all the way back to the 588 but for some reason something else had always caught my eye.



    I do not replace my wedges every year (like you should, I guess) but more like every 3 years. I am currently playing the original Ping Glide and have been super happy with them. I also just ordered a 54°M and 58°D SM7 prior to being selected for this review.



    I have had only one practice session and 1 round in since receiving the 60° Raw, full grind RTX4 and I can say the SM7 will have to really perform as this thing has been sweet early on.



    From the pics you can tell I went Raw 60° full and it had a R i95 Steelfiber shaft as that’s what I play with my irons.



    After the round, early morning round so lots a few, the finish is already starting to come off.



    While practicing the feel wasn’t soft but crisp. I usually prefer soft but this was an addicting crispness that I didn’t really feel from the Glides. Like an expectation of a well struck shot, kind of feel. I was only practicing chipping and no full shots yet but I prefer to use my old 58° around the green and only a lower lifted wedge on 60-80 yard shots. The 50 yard and in I like using my old 58°. I live in the south east and grinds always get me. We have tight lies in the summer when it hot and dried out and fluffier conditions in the spring and fall with the rain. Also with poor education, I’ve always tried low bounce wedges to help me when opening the face and not considering that bounce helps me from digging in the sand or in the fluffiest of turf. That is why I went with the 60° full in the RTX4.



    The two sand shots I hit were as good as any I’ve hit. Probably wouldn’t use a 60° for fairway bunkers but for greenside the bounce and the spin were great. Almost feel like a honeymoon phase there. Look forward to more sand testing.



    Around the green the same results. My distance control was better than I expected with limited practice. But over all the rollout and distance was expected with my chips from around the green. I did hit 1 shot from 40 yards out and it hit and stopped on a dime. Cool.



    Not sure why I’ve never considered these in the past but it def has my eye now. Especially since I could order a Steelfiber in it which I couldn’t with the SM7.



    Will update more with more play.



    Thanks for reading.





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  • jcorna01jcorna01 Members Posts: 645 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited Sep 4, 2018 #5
    Holding a spot here. The wedge was delivered on Friday just in time for the holiday weekend but so did my 3 year old’s strep throat, so it’s still in the plastic (the wedge, not my son). League tonight though and going early to practice.
  • sdandreasdandrea Steve Members Posts: 2,430 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
    edited Sep 5, 2018 #6
    First and foremost- THANK YOU Cleveland Golf and WRX for this opportunity!!
    • I'm an 11 handicap, 66 year old short knocker who depends heavily on short game to play well.
    • I have alternated between classic PING Eye 2 wedges and Cleveland CG wedges for decades.
    • My current wedge set up was a PING Eye 2 50* and a PING Eye 2 Gorge 56*
    • I got the 56/10 with the stock steel shaft in wedge flex with the GP grip in midsize
    • Full sole grind
    • Playing length is 35.5" (using a measuring tape) and Swingweight is D4 on my scale
    • Cleveland must have known about my toe misses - they put some nice milling out there! (last humorous comment - I promise)


    Got 18 holes in today with the new wedge. I got to use the wedge on 6 holes today, only one sand shot. The other 5 shots were pitches/chips around the green from both fairway and rough lies. No full shots yet. Here are my observations.
    • The feel is awesome. Not significantly better than a Cleveland CG15 (which is awesome), but this head/shaft/grip combo provided a nice solid feel.
    • The club is beautiful to my eye. I love this finish, but the satin and black look great to me as well. I love the way the face looks at address behind a ball - confidence inspiring.
    • The single sand shot I had today was from a nicely groomed bunker with a good lie. I laid the face open, took my normal swing and got a good result. The shot landed where I was aiming and only released a few feet, leaving me with a 4 footer that I missed (arrgh). There's not much more I can say at this point.
    • This club really shined on the pitch shots. Very confidence inspiring at address and the sole grind worked well for me on the zoysia grass fairways and bermuda rough I was in today. The ball flies and releases properly for a 56 degree wedge.
    • This is the first Cleveland wedge I have used with a sole this wide. Being a fan of the old PING Eye 2 design, the transition to this grind was easy for me. I included a picture of both the PING and RTX4 below for comparison.


    Consider this an initial review. I am looking forward to more sand use and some full shots from the rough and fairway to really run this club through it's paces. Stand by for more!





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  • Spooky67Spooky67 Members Posts: 1,378 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
    edited Sep 4, 2018 #7
    I'd like to thank Cleveland golf and Golf WRX for this outstanding opportunity! I truly appreciate it and hope to provide an "average joe" review of a tour inspired wedge. Will it be too much club for an average player? Read on and find out:



    Selection- I received a PM from knudson81 letting me know I had been selected to participate in the review process. He asked me to provide my preference of:

    Loft, grind, finish, shaft, length, and grip. I was bit overwhelmed with all of those options so I decided to keep it simple. I wanted to review the club totally stock, how you would likely find it configured in a store if you just stopped in and had a look. I went with a 54deg, Mid sole (10deg bounce), Tour raw finish, stock S400 Tour Issue shaft, and stock Golf Pride Tour Velvet grip.



    Arrival- The club arrived packaged securely as you would expect from any major manufacturer. I opened the box and was impressed right away. Visually the club is outstanding. Clean lines, modern fonts to denote the model, loft, sole, and bounce, and the classic Cleveland logo.



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  • SwingBluesSwingBlues We are the Old Dark Navy Blues Members Posts: 3,474 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    edited Sep 4, 2018 #8
    Dang, missed out. Good luck with the review guys.



    I still have my RTX3 cavity backs, they were great but I've bought into the Ben Hogan 2018 Equalizers, just before these RTX4s came out. So far my Equalizers are $$$ compared to the RTX3 so I'll be curious to see how & what improvements Cleveland made from 3.0 to 4.0 particularly the turf interaction on hard pans (drop some comparison here). The Equalizers with the vsole EXCEL in this part over the RTX3s. Cheers image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />
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  • M910M910 Members Posts: 826 ✭✭
    edited Sep 9, 2018 #9
    Will report back this weekend after some range and course time.



    *UPDATE*



    52* with 10 Mid Bounce S400 shaft.

    25 handicap.



    Saturday (high 80s and dry) Range - chipped around for about 45min.



    Look: Club looks amazing but honestly didn't realize what tour raw meant. This comes into play Sunday afternoon.

    Feel: Chipping from within 10yds and short grass was solid. 15 yards in med grass was solid and the ball checked up very well. 20yds in high grass the grooves felt amazing and I could really see the ball come out and spin.

    Comfort: Felt a little heavier than I'm used to coming from a ping Tour W. s400 shaft was about for my swing style. I really liked the smaller grooves near the toe.

    Performance: It was very consistent. I'm going to assume that it is the bounce. I took the swing back to 8 o'clock and got the ball in a small consistent cluster. I was not able to do this with my Pings.

    Sound: solid is probably the best way to describe it for me. There was a solid click that I really appreciated. It made me think that my shots were from someone who knew what they were doing.



    Saturday (high 80s and dry) Range - 30min off grass aiming at about 110yd flag.



    Look: NO CHANGE

    Feel: Full shots were solid! I was confident after about 10min I knew it was staying in the bag. I need more time with it but I can tell you know that I'm confident that if I have a 60yd (club brought back to 9 o'clock) or 115yd shot, I can rely on this club.

    Comfort: Still feels a little heavier than I'm used to but gripping down, my usually grip, helps me.

    Performance: Similar to feel, the club really performed with consistent distance. I could see that fresh grooves helped in full shots making the balls roll out less.I also noticed that the flight of the ball seemed a little higher.

    Sound: NO CHANGE - Still a solid click on contact which brought confidence.







    Sunday 18 holes (60s dry with 6am dew) in New England.



    Look: The club started to show signs of rust but that's the Tour Raw finish. I'm not sure if I'm supposed to leave it or keep it clean and well oiled. If it affects performance then I'll start oiling but I like the look.

    Feel: Having some range time the day prior, I was confident in each swing. Each strike felt solid and a few times I was about 110-120yds out and able to get the ball close but not always on the green.

    Comfort: I never once looked down at address and thought anything outside of, "this is a nice wedge"

    Performance: Each strike felt solid and a few times I was about 110-120yds out and able to get the ball close but not always on the green. around the greens I was able to get the ball to sit nicely but I'm still getting used to the idea of the ball not rolling out as far. i'm a high handicapper so I hit maybe 1 or 2 greens in regulation while the rest was chipping around or coming out of a bunker.







    TL : DR



    Grooves on the face are nice and the will milling near the toe was very cool to see. I'm not sure if i noticed a performance difference with toe milling but it was nice to see the whole thing have some ability to produce a spin.The wedge was solid going from fairway to my usual thick rough. This is my first cleveland wedge outside of wasting sales reps time at demo day. It's going to stay in the bag and I know I'm just going to get more and more comfortable with the swing weight and performance. I cannot wait to find a cleveland replacement for my 60. I'll keep updating as best I can with more time in play.



    Thank you WRX and Cleveland for this.
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  • DTown3011DTown3011 #DTown3011 ClubWRX Posts: 3,613 ClubWRX
    edited Sep 6, 2018 #10
    Thanks to GolfWRX and Cleveland/Srixon for this opportunity! I usually don't enter giveaways but this one had my interest as I am currently in the market for new wedges so the timing seemed ideal. I have not played or even considered a Cleveland wedge since my original 588's back in high school and have to admit the RTX4's had my interest from the moment I saw them. I'm excited to be picked for this opportunity and hope to provide some great feedback for everyone. As I mentioned, timing is ideal as I JUST picked up a brand new set of Callaway MD4 raw that I can compare these to side by side. The specs I ordered on mine are identical to the MD4 wedge which should provide a great comparison. I went with:



    Cleveland RTX4 60.09

    Mid Bounce Grind

    Tour Raw Finish

    KBS 610 120 S shaft

    GP MCC Plus 4 Grip



    The wedge arrived over Labor Day weekend but unfortunately I was out of town and I've been in Seattle the past few days on business so just returned home today to open the box. Here are a few photos and a comparison with the MD4 raw - will report back once I have a chance to put both through the paces! Initial thoughts is that the Cleveland has a very high end look and finish right out of the box. Also, the face is VERY impressive, with the laser milling and the spin mill on the toe. I personally think it looks more "aggressive" than the Callaway wedge but time will tell if that's the case!



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  • Spooky67Spooky67 Members Posts: 1,378 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
    edited Sep 6, 2018 #11
    A few more thoughts:



    Top line- the RTX4 has a slightly thicker top line than the Callaway X-forged vintage, and the Callaway Mack Daddy forged. 6mm for the RTX4 to 5mm for the Callaways. I was surprised the measured difference was that small as it just looks a little thicker. Not a problem for me, just an observation.



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  • blink3665blink3665 #TwistFaceExperience Members Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    @Spooky67 - I agree that these things have an impressive amount of spin. I'm surprised that you found these have more spin than the X-Jaws. For the life of me, I have never spun a ball more than I did when I played those wedges. I stopped playing them because the grooves were too sharp and were literally taking chunks out of my ball.



    Keep up the great reviews!
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  • Spooky67Spooky67 Members Posts: 1,378 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
    blink3665 wrote:


    @Spooky67 - I agree that these things have an impressive amount of spin. I'm surprised that you found these have more spin than the X-Jaws. For the life of me, I have never spun a ball more than I did when I played those wedges. I stopped playing them because the grooves were too sharp and were literally taking chunks out of my ball.



    Keep up the great reviews!




    Thanks for taking the time to read and comment. I agree with you, I do find pieces of cover in my grooves frequently with my Callaways. I didn’t notice that with the RTX4 but I did notice much more spin, as I mentioned in my initial review, more spin than I have generated before. I am guessing it’s a combination of clubhead and shaft.? Full shots for me with this club are fantastic. I’ll have to work on managing the spin. Disclaimer- I am a high capper so my swings will be inconsistent, but all of my full shots with this wedge were very nice for me.
  • jcorna01jcorna01 Members Posts: 645 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited Sep 7, 2018 #14
    WARNING: NSFW picture below.







    A big thank you to Cleveland and Golfwrx for giving me the opportunity to try out the new RTX4 line.



    After my first year of playing golf as a 12 year old kid, my parents bought me my first "real" club to go with my cobbled together set of Dunlop irons and persimmon woods. That club was a Cleveland 588 56* degree wedge, which I continued to play for the next 6 years. The grooves were probably shot after 2, but that wedge was my 100 yards and in club all the way through high school golf. My Dad was a huge Cleveland homer (picture to prove it below).



    Broadly speaking, my wedge play is one of the weaker parts of my game, but specifically, I have always had a tough time getting a ball in the air off a tight lie on a partial swing. I'm talking about semi-flop shots over a bunker to a short pin but more so about basic 30-50 yard pitches from the fairway. My handicap has fluctuated between 8-11 this summer, and I know that my inability to get a shot like this in the same zip code as the hole is a big reason why it isn't lower.



    My current wedges are Callaway Mack Daddy 2's, and my 58 has 10 degrees of bounce with their S grind. Rather than just pick the most similar Cleveland wedge to compare to my current MD2, I decided to use the tools on their website that aid in selecting a wedge based on what you need/how you swing. I chose:



    58*

    Tour Raw finish

    Stock S400 shaft, Tour Velvet grip

    Low sole- 6 degrees of bounce with heel and toe relief





    The wedge looks really great. I much prefer the shape to my MD2, although I didn't know it until putting them side by side. The RTX4 has more of a pinched off tear drop shape where the MD2 looks more like an egg. The engravings/graphics on the back are very minimal, which I like.



    The feel on full shots is equally as soft as the forged MD2. The feel through the hands/arms is the same. The only "feel" difference I noticed was that the RTX4 was slightly louder, but not by much. I don't tend to hit many full shots with the 58, however.



    I hit a bunch of my dreaded pitch shots from a variety of lies. With my MD2, I seem to roll a 3-sided die and it has an equal chance to come up fat, thin, or ok. The RTX4 showed a really big reduction on the thinned shots. I still hit some of them fat, especially in a softer fairway after some rain, but I did see a more consistent strike from standard and dry lies.



    Around the green, same story. This wedge did not cure my short game problems, but I experienced a measurable improvement on shots where I would need to open the face a little. On well hit shots, the ball would take one hop and stick. I've pretty much converted my basic chipping to a PW or 8-iron, so I didn't feel the need to hit any of those with a 58*.



    Verdict:



    I much prefer the RTX4 to my MD2 for the following 2 reasons:



    1. I think the grind and bounce are better suited to my game and the kind of shots I want to hit with this club.

    2. The shape of the head, to my eye, is much better looking and I think the rusted look will make it even better.





    I really appreciate the lengths Cleveland has gone to to provide wedge selection assistance on their site. I think it's important to offer a guide to buyers who may otherwise be paralyzed by so many choices. I was able to watch a short, ~45 second video on each grind as well as 4-5 bullet points explaining which swing/situation each grind might fit.



    Thanks again for the opportunity!
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  • deckdeck Off The Deck Members Posts: 3,849 ✭✭
    Thanks to Cleveland and Golfwrx for offering this to us all. Consider this a place holder for me until I can play with it this weekend. Wedge arrived Tuesday while I was out of town for work. Arrived back late last night to open it up. Will post my full review here tomorrow afternoon when I give this the proper testing against what I am using now. Pics to follow up.
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  • MinaretsMinarets Members Posts: 4,066 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    Playing tomorrow morning. Will have more up after the round.
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    Hybrids: PXG 0317X 17*, 19*
    Wedges: Callaway PM Grind 54*, 58*
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    Bag: Titleist Players 4 (Green)
    Ball: Titleist Pro V1 or Snell MTB-x
  • Spooky67Spooky67 Members Posts: 1,378 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
    edited Sep 9, 2018 #17
    Got 9 in today and carried the RTX4 54/10 mid in place of my gamer 54. Again, really liked it on full shots as well as pitches.



    Pitching- the RTX4 excelled here. I think the heavier swingweight helps me with these partial shots, and the spin the club generates helps me hold the green. The trajectory is so low and penetrating I always think I'll be long, but the ball really bites and stops quick. I had a 40yd pitch on 1. and 55yd pitch on 2. And both stopped almost as soon as they hit the green. I'm used to using trajectory to get a stop, but the RTX4 has added a new shot to my wedge game. Here's a pic of the face after today's 9.



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  • MinaretsMinarets Members Posts: 4,066 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    Played this morning on a wet course and had some mixed play. I have too much going on right now with clubs. Everything is new but the putter so trying to dial in everything and haven’t had much range time.



    The RTX4 was awesome chipping today 6 out of 8 times . The good 6 times and all of them were to tap in range after hitting. The 60 full Raw is great for around the green chipping. That said I had 2 that I had flown the green on and was stuck on a down hill low on an elevated hill behind the hole , two different times. So I have to chip down the hill , short sided on both. So you really have to drive the leasing edge thru the swing or you’ll blade it and send it flying across the green, right? Well that didn’t happen. Instead I slid the wedge almost under the ball, both times, and the ball went like 2’. But stayed in the rough. Really just poor execution, not poor equipment.



    Used it for one bunker and I have really been struggling out of sand lately and far from scientific but was 1 for 1 today out of the sand. Popped right out to 4’ and I was on my way after making the putt.



    The Raw finish has left the wedge in all the common friction areas. I’ll get some pics later. The face and sole are already down to the Raw finish after 2 rounds. The back of the club is still holding on to some of that bronze color. Also starting to see a little rust if I remember right. I’ll check and post pics.
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  • snagy2000snagy2000 Members Posts: 1,635 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
    Let me start off by thanking GolfWRX and Cleveland/Srixon for giving me the opportunity to review the new RTX 4 wedge. After years and years of trying to win a contest on this site, I finally struck gold, and couldn’t be happier for this opportunity.

    A little about me, I’m currently a 5.5 index who has played on average 3-4 times a week for the last 4 or 5 years. I’m not a big range rat and enjoy playing way more than I like to practice. Most of my rounds are played around the Houston area and within Texas. As you can imagine, there are a lot of firm lies to be had on these courses. In addition, my home club has a lot of elevated and undulated greens which on average roll at 11.5+ on the stimp meter. Short siding yourself on these greens definitely makes the game a lot more interesting, as your next shot is going to require something with bite if you’re going to have any chance of getting up and down.



    In the past, I was a loyal Cleveland irons (CG2) and wedge player, but moved away from the brand with my last Cleveland wedges being the CG15. Since then, I’ve played Ping and most recently Titleist wedges. I currently game Vokey 52.8 (SM6), 58.4 (SM6) and 64.7 (SM4) wedges with KBS Tour shafts and Iomic Sticky 2.3 grips. My Vokey 64 has helped me pull off some pretty amazing shots and cash in on my buddies much to their chagrin. However, as we all do, its age is beginning to show and I recently have entertained thoughts of replacing it. When I found out I won this opportunity, I jumped at the chance of testing the new RTX 4 64.6/low (Raw) with a KBS Tour shaft like my current wedges.



    I’ve been able to log 3 rounds with the RTX 4 and have to say I’m very impressed by its feel and performance. Compared to my Vokey (SM4) 64, it has a slightly bigger head, but not enough to make it unappealing to my eyes. The spin generated by this RTX 4 is high volume and I have not been disappointed one bit. The first round out, on the 18th hole par 5, I had a short sided eagle shot from 40 yds on a sloping green. Knowing my only chance to save a birdie was to land my eagle shot just on the green and let it slowly trickle down towards the hole. Low and behold, my flop shot landed just on the green, bit nicely and trickled down right into the hole for eagle. That was a huge smile wiper for my buddy and gave me confidence this club would perform as needed. In the subsequent two rounds, there hasn’t been a time I doubted this club wouldn’t be able to replace my current gamer. As I get more comfortable with this club, and try various shot types, I’ll post more comments about this club’s performance capabilities.
  • mBiden2mBiden2 #15 and counting..... Atlanta, GAMembers Posts: 936 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Has anyone had the chance to compare these to the SM7s?
    WITB

    TM R9 460 TP 9.5* - Fujikura Motore F1 65X
    TM R9 TP 3W 15* - Fujikura Motore F1 85S
    TM P790 3 & 4 - Nippon Modus3 T 105X
    TM P790 5-PW - Nippon Modus3 T 120S
    TM MG 50* - Nippon Modus3 T 120S
    TM Z TP 54* & 58* - Project X 6.0
    Scotty Cameron Studio Select Newport 2 Mid-Slant
  • Adrian1759Adrian1759 Members Posts: 91 ✭✭✭
    edited Sep 14, 2018 #21
    Hi Folks - some of the online feedback on these was that they marked up quickly - anyone notice this in terms of dings or marks?



    Very excited to try these!
  • Adrian1759Adrian1759 Members Posts: 91 ✭✭✭
    Apologies, another question - I've usually played DG wedge flex previously but tempted to try the Modus Tour 120 in Stiff - I'm assuming these would be similar flexes with the modus potentially playing a little softer?
  • snagy2000snagy2000 Members Posts: 1,635 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
    Adrian1759 wrote:


    Hi Folks - some of the online feedback on these was that they marked up quickly - anyone notice this in terms of dings or marks?



    Very excited to try these!




    They're no different than any other wedge...No noticeable marks or dings out of the ordinary on mine...IMO, this isn't a beauty contest..Irons and wedges are blue collar workers who aren't afraid to get their hands dirty and get roughed up as needed...Unlike those drama queen woods, hybrids and putters who like to stay pretty with their headcovers on all the time...
  • JOHN GOLIAJOHN GOLIA On the Bubble Members Posts: 1,256 ClubWRX
    Adrian1759 wrote:


    Hi Folks - some of the online feedback on these was that they marked up quickly - anyone notice this in terms of dings or marks?



    Very excited to try these!


    I have about six rounds on mine (Raw 58 XLOW and 54 MID) with a little range time. They are looking just fine.

    Finally played in a bit of rain the last couple of days and they are starting to show

    some rust. I like the rusty look.
  • jcorna01jcorna01 Members Posts: 645 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I haven’t noticed any unusual wear on the raw finish.



    I’ve gotten in some more practice and the 58 low bounce is proving to be a good club for me off hard/bare lies and even full shots. My bad wedge game needs the bounce of my 54 in other situations.
  • Spooky67Spooky67 Members Posts: 1,378 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
    Adrian1759 wrote:


    Hi Folks - some of the online feedback on these was that they marked up quickly - anyone notice this in terms of dings or marks?



    Very excited to try these!




    I think the pics in this thread tell the story. Most of us have new and used pics. Mine are new, one full round, 9, and a chipping session. No sandy range sessions, just a bit of on course play. I could see why some might say they mark quickly, but I have the Tour raw finish, so I would expect to see this. Again, as another poster mentioned, it isn’t a big deal IMO.


    Adrian1759 wrote:


    Apologies, another question - I've usually played DG wedge flex previously but tempted to try the Modus Tour 120 in Stiff - I'm assuming these would be similar flexes with the modus potentially playing a little softer?




    Try the S400 tour. I’ve been 100% impressed with this shaft- I come from wedge flexes too- especially on full shots and pitches.
  • 4rheel4rheel OC, CaliforniaMembers Posts: 1,939 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
    Jcorn, I almost threw up in my mouth seeing the old VAS wedge (J/K). I know someone that still prefers this set over any of the newer tech ones and take my money while looking so bad.



    On the other hand, Cleveland should do a refresh of this set as an anniversary item of when Pavin won with these. Lol
  • jcorna01jcorna01 Members Posts: 645 ✭✭✭✭✭
    4rheel wrote:


    Jcorn, I almost threw up in my mouth seeing the old VAS wedge (J/K). I know someone that still prefers this set over any of the newer tech ones and take my money while looking so bad.



    On the other hand, Cleveland should do a refresh of this set as an anniversary item of when Pavin won with these. Lol




    They were my dads, I just can’t get rid of them lol.
  • MinaretsMinarets Members Posts: 4,066 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    Rust is coming! Rust is coming!









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    Driver: TaylorMade M3
    Irons: PXG 0311 4-GW
    Hybrids: PXG 0317X 17*, 19*
    Wedges: Callaway PM Grind 54*, 58*
    Putter: Ping Ketcsh  
    Bag: Titleist Players 4 (Green)
    Ball: Titleist Pro V1 or Snell MTB-x
  • MinaretsMinarets Members Posts: 4,066 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    mBiden2 wrote:
    Has anyone had the chance to compare these to the SM7s?




    SM7 are my gamers. I like both. The RTX4 is a totally different grind and ° then my SM7 tho so it slightly difficult to compare. The feel of the raw RTX4 is very nice. Not soft but not clicky.
    Driver: TaylorMade M3
    Irons: PXG 0311 4-GW
    Hybrids: PXG 0317X 17*, 19*
    Wedges: Callaway PM Grind 54*, 58*
    Putter: Ping Ketcsh  
    Bag: Titleist Players 4 (Green)
    Ball: Titleist Pro V1 or Snell MTB-x
  • Spooky67Spooky67 Members Posts: 1,378 ✭✭✭✭✭✭
    edited Sep 15, 2018 #31
    Played another round with the RTX4 54/10 mid in the bag. I think I have enough meaningful swings with this wedge to give my final review. Again I would like to thank Golf WRX and Cleveland golf for this incredible opportunity.



    Final Verdict- the RTX4 54/10 mid has made the bag. It clearly outperformed my current 54/12 Callaway Xseries Jaws in full shots as well as pitch shots. I still have trouble with very tight, touchy chips, but other than those shots this is my go to wedge inside 100yds.



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