Diamana D+ Recent Success on Tour

mjbaker80 · Sep 6, 2010

Hey, fellas!

Wanted to start a thread in hopes of learning more from you all about the D+ LE. It's having a heck of a run on tour....2 majors this year, Casey, TW. Of course, all 3 players will be gaming at Ryder Cup. (Yes, I know I don't swing as hard or as well as them). But, what do people know about this shaft? It's low/low but per MRC reps, it's not the lowest of low that they make.

Any thoughts on what shafts it compares too? Feel? Spin? Launch?

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't mildly interested in trying it seeing as I played a WB for years.

Crazy that MRC was about to discontinue production of this shaft...my guess is they are rethinking that!

Thanks!

hardcaliber · May 14, 2010

I’m interested in this as well. It’s basically a low end white board right? KK and Tensei have been getting all the love recently but diamana is still the best for my money.

GolfWRX · Jan 1, 2005

Rpete33 · Jul 22, 2017

Currently have a Kura kage XD in my driver and Fuji p95x in my 3 wood...seriously considering going back to a 70 d+ in my driver and 90 d+ in my 3 wood

JJK947 · Jul 31, 2007

It's really an evolution of the original whiteboard. Tensei is their high end shaft but the Diamana line isn't low end at all. Definitely a less refined feel than Tensei but performance is good. D+ is just basically your soft butt and stiff mid and tip profile, although they have strengthened up the butt section with some of the more recent iterations compared to the original flowerband whiteboard. I've hit every version of the whiteboard/D+ over the years from original 73x -> D+ 72 -> silver D+ 70 -> D+ LTD 70. The silver D+ felt and played most similar to the original. The 72 D+ played a little softer and the LTD plays the stoutest and lowest launch/spin out of any of them yet. It's a really solid shaft and great for controlling flight if the softer but section works with your swing. I think the TX versions of the LTD D+ shafts have some higher end material going on in the tip sections for added stability but I'd have to refresh my memory.

ForTourUseOnly · Oct 19, 2005

I’m intrigued as well. Ordered my TS woods with the D+ just to give it a try. Never played a whiteboard but it should be on paper a very good shaft for me.

hardcaliber · May 14, 2010

Just to clarify my prior comment, the diamana line is not low end at all. It’s probably still considered Mitsubishi’s flagship premier shaft line. My understanding is that the d+ that is getting so much love is a lower end variant within the diamana family, what used to be considered a “made for” type of shaft. Still very nice of course, and apparently with tour validation to back it up. Goes to show that you don’t need to drop 400-500 bucks to get top notch performance.

mjbaker80 · Sep 6, 2010

INCREDIBLY helpful! How would you compare it in launch spin to some of the other in its class....T1100, PO, Atmos Black....

GolfWRX · Jan 1, 2005

Moo · Jan 18, 2018

Recently added a D+ LTD to my shaft line-up. It's the second most played shaft and it has some interesting properties. For me it is a fairway finder and about 95% as long as my RIP Alpha. The very first round I put it into play I hit 8 of 11 fairways, which is very good for me!

I did a distance and dispersion test on three of the big fairways on my favorite course. I only compared it to one other shaft as I didn't have time to swap out more than one shaft on the tee. The dispersion was very, very good to my target point. And in 1 of the 3 tests it was the longest by a good 15 yards. On the other two it was shorter by 10 yards or so. So, on distance it was inconclusive, but for dispersion it seemed to offer an advantage for my swing.

I'm only playing a stiff, but I was concerned about reviews claiming it was very stout. I've found just the opposite. It's an incredibly smooth swinging shaft and very easy to load and release. Honestly, I was very surprised. I've also found it performs best for me with a smooth and controlled swing.

It's a quality shaft.

Bobb3rdown · May 9, 2018

I play a d+ limited 70 stiff in my 910d2. Great feeling shaft. I dont swing super hard. 100-105. Way stiffer then the made for kai'li 60 stiff that it came with. And low launch, low spin is all relative. I have no issues hitting the ball high or shaping the ball. But it definitely flies straighter on well struck shots. Will also be playing this shaft in my 3 wood when it gets here. In the 80 gram version

TollBros · Aug 25, 2016

You're right, it was about to be a discontinued model before Tiger went back to it. Now they are making another run to meet demand.

Radeon962 · Apr 25, 2005

Crazy what the Tiger impact is to equipment.

I bought driver pulls this past winter for $39 when was trying different weights in my Epic SZ.

High Plains Driver · Aug 27, 2005

Freaking Tiger. Now D+ pulls for less than $50 will be hard to find.

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GolfWRX · Jan 1, 2005

sixtysevensixtyseven · Dec 3, 2013

hardcaliber wrote:

Just to clarify my prior comment, the diamana line is not low end at all. It's probably still considered Mitsubishi's flagship premier shaft line. My understanding is that the d+ that is getting so much love is a lower end variant within the diamana family, what used to be considered a "made for" type of shaft. Still very nice of course, and apparently with tour validation to back it up. Goes to show that you don't need to drop 400-500 bucks to get top notch performance.

It's technically the D+Plus Limited that those guys are playing. If you look at the shaft you are kind of right that it is a cheaper model. It's got a lot of Mitsubishi's design technology but none of the exotic materials i.e. MR70 fibers and boron.

I know it was on the chopping block but I'm sure they'll keep making them. This is one reason why there is an advantage to putting Graphite Design shafts into play. If you don't like to change shafts very often they keep producing basically all of their models for years.

Golfingfanatic · Oct 21, 2012

Anyone have experience with the 90TX? Thinking about putting one in my driver at 43.75” playing length.

mjbaker80 · Sep 6, 2010

sixtysevensixtyseven wrote:

hardcaliber wrote:

Just to clarify my prior comment, the diamana line is not low end at all. It's probably still considered Mitsubishi's flagship premier shaft line. My understanding is that the d+ that is getting so much love is a lower end variant within the diamana family, what used to be considered a "made for" type of shaft. Still very nice of course, and apparently with tour validation to back it up. Goes to show that you don't need to drop 400-500 bucks to get top notch performance.

It's technically the D+Plus Limited that those guys are playing. If you look at the shaft you are kind of right that it is a cheaper model. It's got a lot of Mitsubishi's design technology but none of the exotic materials i.e. MR70 fibers and boron.

I know it was on the chopping block but I'm sure they'll keep making them. This is one reason why there is an advantage to putting Graphite Design shafts into play. If you don't like to change shafts very often they keep producing basically all of their models for years.

Correct - my bad! Topic should be D+ Limited Edition!

getitdaily · Aug 19, 2017

High Plains Driver wrote:

Freaking Tiger. Now D+ pulls for less than $50 will be hard to find. /cray.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />

Good thing it was never a shaft that worked for me. Now I'll get other premium pills from people who think they're tiger and grab a d+.

hardcaliber · May 14, 2010

I’ve had my eye on PO for a while. Can’t prove it, but it seems like I’ve already seen prices dropping significantly the past month or whatever since tiger ditched it. Crazy is right. Shaft are like Highlander’s, there can be only one.

GolfWRX · Jan 1, 2005

sixtysevensixtyseven · Dec 3, 2013

mjbaker80 wrote:

sixtysevensixtyseven wrote:

hardcaliber wrote:

Just to clarify my prior comment, the diamana line is not low end at all. It's probably still considered Mitsubishi's flagship premier shaft line. My understanding is that the d+ that is getting so much love is a lower end variant within the diamana family, what used to be considered a "made for" type of shaft. Still very nice of course, and apparently with tour validation to back it up. Goes to show that you don't need to drop 400-500 bucks to get top notch performance.

It's technically the D+Plus Limited that those guys are playing. If you look at the shaft you are kind of right that it is a cheaper model. It's got a lot of Mitsubishi's design technology but none of the exotic materials i.e. MR70 fibers and boron.

I know it was on the chopping block but I'm sure they'll keep making them. This is one reason why there is an advantage to putting Graphite Design shafts into play. If you don't like to change shafts very often they keep producing basically all of their models for years.

Correct - my bad! Topic should be D+ Limited Edition!

Don't forget the PLUS. It might be the worst name ever for a shaft D+PLUS Limited Edition.

Crooksc17 · Sep 29, 2016

How does this compare to the Pro white?

Bobb3rdown · May 9, 2018

Have played the d+ limited 70 stiff in my driver for a few rounds and am really liking it. So much so I got a 3 wood with that shaft but in 80gram. Played it today for the first time and really liked it. So smooth.

mjbaker80 · Sep 6, 2010

So for you guys that have played it, any other shafts in the market that you’d compare it to?

Moo · Jan 18, 2018

Update. I got in another round with the Diamana D+ today. Well, actually 9 holes, as the rain came.

It is such a contrast to my standard shaft, the RIP Alpha. The Diamana doesn't like to be hard loaded from the top with a quick transition. But, I've learned the timing to lag it a little bit better. It's just a smoother overall kinda of swing than I'm used to (which means it might be someone else standard swing already). The question for me was it is as long as my RIP Alpha. Today on the long par 5 number 5, I hit my third longest drive ever. Even my playing partner, who outdrives me 9 out of 10 times, asked if that was the new shaft. I told him yes and he said to keep it in the bag.

Now third longest drive doesn't sound that great, but it was 54 degrees out and raining. Trust me, this shaft has the juice. For me I need to commit to it as the primary shaft, as I think switching between this and my RIP Alpha may be counterproductive.

In any event, I've been very impressed with the Diamana as a fairway finder. It excels for me in that area already. I was in 5 of 7 fairways today and the two I missed were because I found traps in the fairway. No lost balls today!

GolfWRX · Jan 1, 2005

sixtysevensixtyseven · Dec 3, 2013

Moo wrote:

Update. I got in another round with the Diamana D+ today. Well, actually 9 holes, as the rain came.

It is such a contrast to my standard shaft, the RIP Alpha. The Diamana doesn't like to be hard loaded from the top with a quick transition. But, I've learned the timing to lag it a little bit better. It's just a smoother overall kinda of swing than I'm used to (which means it might be someone else standard swing already). The question for me was it is as long as my RIP Alpha. Today on the long par 5 number 5, I hit my third longest drive ever. Even my playing partner, who outdrives me 9 out of 10 times, asked if that was the new shaft. I told him yes and he said to keep it in the bag.

Now third longest drive doesn't sound that great, but it was 54 degrees out and raining. Trust me, this shaft has the juice. For me I need to commit to it as the primary shaft, as I think switching between this and my RIP Alpha may be counterproductive.

In any event, I've been very impressed with the Diamana as a fairway finder. It excels for me in that area already. I was in 5 of 7 fairways today and the two I missed were because I found traps in the fairway. No lost balls today!

It is funny that whenever Tiger changes to a shaft that's been on the market for a couple years it becomes the greatest thing since sliced bread for some amateur in Michigan.

Moo · Jan 18, 2018

sixtysevensixtyseven wrote:

Moo wrote:

Update. I got in another round with the Diamana D+ today. Well, actually 9 holes, as the rain came.

It is such a contrast to my standard shaft, the RIP Alpha. The Diamana doesn't like to be hard loaded from the top with a quick transition. But, I've learned the timing to lag it a little bit better. It's just a smoother overall kinda of swing than I'm used to (which means it might be someone else standard swing already). The question for me was it is as long as my RIP Alpha. Today on the long par 5 number 5, I hit my third longest drive ever. Even my playing partner, who outdrives me 9 out of 10 times, asked if that was the new shaft. I told him yes and he said to keep it in the bag.

Now third longest drive doesn't sound that great, but it was 54 degrees out and raining. Trust me, this shaft has the juice. For me I need to commit to it as the primary shaft, as I think switching between this and my RIP Alpha may be counterproductive.

In any event, I've been very impressed with the Diamana as a fairway finder. It excels for me in that area already. I was in 5 of 7 fairways today and the two I missed were because I found traps in the fairway. No lost balls today!

It is funny that whenever Tiger changes to a shaft that's been on the market for a couple years it becomes the greatest thing since sliced bread for some amateur in Michigan.

It's not funny, since I bought it before I even knew that Tiger was playing it. I don't see that Tiger was playing a RIP Alpha ever, so you know, you're just a waste of time.

I guess I should run out and buy a CK Orange hun?

mjbaker80 · Sep 6, 2010

To be fair, Tiger isnâ€™t the only one using this shaft....Koepka...Casey. It also won two majors this year....3 in the last two. Not sure thereâ€™s another shaft that is in the bag of three Ryder Cup players, either.

But, yes, Tiger does move the needle and Iâ€™m guilty of foolishly wanted to try stuff that he uses. That doesnâ€™t seem to be the case for Moo, however.

Moo · Jan 18, 2018

mjbaker80 wrote:

To be fair, Tiger isnâ€™t the only one using this shaft....Koepka...Casey. It also won two majors this year....3 in the last two. Not sure thereâ€™s another shaft that is in the bag of three Ryder Cup players, either.

But, yes, Tiger does move the needle and Iâ€™m guilty of foolishly wanted to try stuff that he uses. That doesnâ€™t seem to be the case for Moo, however.

I had no idea those guys were using it. Groovy!

I bought it on August 24th. I don't even know when Tiger switched, but I think it was after that date. In any event, I never said it was the greatest shaft or whatever. Actually, I was pretty convinced it's not as long as what I have, but I am finding more fairways. I guess if it was the really the greatest it would be the longest ever and every drive would be right in the middle and yada, yada.

I was just giving my honest opinion. I'm digging it, but it's a big change in feel from what I've been swinging and that is also kinda messing me up a bit.

Jagpilotohio · Sep 14, 2015

Moo wrote:

Update. I got in another round with the Diamana D+ today. Well, actually 9 holes, as the rain came.

It is such a contrast to my standard shaft, the RIP Alpha. The Diamana doesn't like to be hard loaded from the top with a quick transition. But, I've learned the timing to lag it a little bit better. It's just a smoother overall kinda of swing than I'm used to (which means it might be someone else standard swing already). The question for me was it is as long as my RIP Alpha. Today on the long par 5 number 5, I hit my third longest drive ever. Even my playing partner, who outdrives me 9 out of 10 times, asked if that was the new shaft. I told him yes and he said to keep it in the bag.

Now third longest drive doesn't sound that great, but it was 54 degrees out and raining. Trust me, this shaft has the juice. For me I need to commit to it as the primary shaft, as I think switching between this and my RIP Alpha may be counterproductive.

In any event, I've been very impressed with the Diamana as a fairway finder. It excels for me in that area already. I was in 5 of 7 fairways today and the two I missed were because I found traps in the fairway. No lost balls today!

Commit to it as your “primary shaft”?? This confuses me. Why would you ever go back and forth between more than one shaft? Consistency is the name of the game in Golf. I played the same shaft for nearly a decade. grafalloy Blue. Went to a KKDC 70tx for two years to lower spin and I’m back with old faithful, the blue.

Definitely commit to one shaft and just play it. A couple years down The road if you get an itch to try a new one that’s fine, but test them and then pick one. Then 100% commitment to it.

Same thing and more so with iron shafts. Find a shaft that suits you and play it until you’re too old to swing It anymore. I played some special XX tour department Daiwa shafts for 20 years that I got when I was on staff with them in the 90’s until they were finally too stiff for me a few years ago. Now I’ve been with KBS Tour V 120x for 30 months, no plans on switching again until they are too stiff in a decade or so, or until my arthritis gets so bad I need graphite.

I realize on this forum Most of us love equipment, but everyone would do themselves a HUGE favor if they only switched heads when they want to be a club Ho and keep using the same shafts,

GolfWRX · Jan 1, 2005

Moo · Jan 18, 2018

Jagpilotohio wrote:

Moo wrote:

Update. I got in another round with the Diamana D+ today. Well, actually 9 holes, as the rain came.

It is such a contrast to my standard shaft, the RIP Alpha. The Diamana doesn't like to be hard loaded from the top with a quick transition. But, I've learned the timing to lag it a little bit better. It's just a smoother overall kinda of swing than I'm used to (which means it might be someone else standard swing already). The question for me was it is as long as my RIP Alpha. Today on the long par 5 number 5, I hit my third longest drive ever. Even my playing partner, who outdrives me 9 out of 10 times, asked if that was the new shaft. I told him yes and he said to keep it in the bag.

Now third longest drive doesn't sound that great, but it was 54 degrees out and raining. Trust me, this shaft has the juice. For me I need to commit to it as the primary shaft, as I think switching between this and my RIP Alpha may be counterproductive.

In any event, I've been very impressed with the Diamana as a fairway finder. It excels for me in that area already. I was in 5 of 7 fairways today and the two I missed were because I found traps in the fairway. No lost balls today!

Commit to it as your “primary shaft”?? This confuses me. Why would you ever go back and forth between more than one shaft? Consistency is the name of the game in Golf. I played the same shaft for nearly a decade. grafalloy Blue. Went to a KKDC 70tx for two years to lower spin and I’m back with old faithful, the blue.

Definitely commit to one shaft and just play it. A couple years down The road if you get an itch to try a new one that’s fine, but test them and then pick one. Then 100% commitment to it.

Same thing and more so with iron shafts. Find a shaft that suits you and play it until you’re too old to swing It anymore. I played some special XX tour department Daiwa shafts for 20 years that I got when I was on staff with them in the 90’s until they were finally too stiff for me a few years ago. Now I’ve been with KBS Tour V 120x for 30 months, no plans on switching again until they are too stiff in a decade or so, or until my arthritis gets so bad I need graphite.

I realize on this forum Most of us love equipment, but everyone would do themselves a HUGE favor if they only switched heads when they want to be a club Ho and keep using the same shafts,

I hear you, but I've only had it two weeks. I have had the RIP for a long time. And I busted my other back-up shaft and wanted to try something different. I hit this shaft in a friend's club a couple of months ago and really liked it.

The reason for making a change is while I do hit the RIP Alpha pretty good, I always feel like it needs to be near the top of my power band, and I don't have that level every single time I play. I have an old Diamana Blue in the basement, but it doesn't match my swing very well and it hits the ball too high. I'm sure in a week or two I'll know if it is the right shaft for me. I'm leaning that way, but on average it has been shorter than my RIP. The decision is more fairways with the Diamana or longer with the RIP based on the play so far.

As for the club ho thing. I'm totally not in that camp. Until last year, I had the same irons for 8 or 9 years. The same 5 wood for probably 12. And the same putter for like 13 or 14. I find something that works and pretty much keep it for a while.

LeftyBam · Jan 9, 2012

Are they using the d+ or the new DF

mjbaker80 · Sep 6, 2010

D+ Limited Edition. The only person that I know of that tried the DF was Rose. He’s now back to the TPO

GolfWRX · Jan 1, 2005

drbonesvt · Oct 4, 2011

Golfingfanatic wrote:

Anyone have experience with the 90TX? Thinking about putting one in my driver at 43.75” playing length.

Have a D+ 90tx in my 3w, performance is great - solid felling

If I could find a 70tx d+ for the driver I’d get , but only 70x out there

D+ 70x torque is like 3.1 and Tx 2.9

I’m thinking I’d have to go limited d 70x to get something similar feel to my 90tx

Diamana D+ Recent Success on Tour

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