iBlade update/refresh?

[PowderedToastMan]

i would suggest to ping to make an I500 tour irons. Slightly smaller head, regular lofts, and maybe decrease the springiness of the face so that it was less of a "distance iron". they look great just tweak it for a tour model.

I have not hit the I500's, but nonetheless was disappointed when I learned they are more of a distance iron than tour iron.

The thought of a true ping forged iron sounded awesome

 

WTH is a tour iron and a distance iron? The i500 can be ordered in retro lofts and get plenty of play on tours worldwide.

I decided to follow up on your claim that the ping i500's are played on plenty of tours worldwide.

It turns out that you couldn't be any more wrong. One out of the 19 professional golfers listed on pings website has them playing the i500 and that is Tony Finau. And it just so happens that he's playing with just the I500 3 iron.

I put the link here just in case you want to refute..

http://ping.com/pros/pga-tour

 

I am sure the i500 are awesome clubs, and this whole thing started out by me simply saying that I was hoping they would be more of a traditional forged model.

 

They are in play on tour. And will be in play a lot more next year. Guys don’t switch mid season. I have severa players testing them. And the website isn’t always accurate. There were a lot in play at the PGA.

 

The Titleist 718cb is the same construction. So are the PXG and Taylormade 790s. It was known from day one it was a hollow forged iron.

 

And I didn’t say anything volatile. I asked a simple question.

Lol your first word was “WTH”. It was a strong start iTeach.

[iteachgolf]

I have not hit the I500's, but nonetheless was disappointed when I learned they are more of a distance iron than tour iron.

The thought of a true ping forged iron sounded awesome

 

WTH is a tour iron and a distance iron? The i500 can be ordered in retro lofts and get plenty of play on tours worldwide.

I decided to follow up on your claim that the ping i500's are played on plenty of tours worldwide.

It turns out that you couldn't be any more wrong. One out of the 19 professional golfers listed on pings website has them playing the i500 and that is Tony Finau. And it just so happens that he's playing with just the I500 3 iron.

I put the link here just in case you want to refute..

http://ping.com/pros/pga-tour

 

I am sure the i500 are awesome clubs, and this whole thing started out by me simply saying that I was hoping they would be more of a traditional forged model.

 

They are in play on tour. And will be in play a lot more next year. Guys don’t switch mid season. I have severa players testing them. And the website isn’t always accurate. There were a lot in play at the PGA.

 

The Titleist 718cb is the same construction. So are the PXG and Taylormade 790s. It was known from day one it was a hollow forged iron.

 

And I didn’t say anything volatile. I asked a simple question.

Lol your first word was “WTH”. It was a strong start iTeach.

 

It autocorrected to all caps. I literally don’t know what a “tour” iron or a distance iron is if they have the same traditional lofts. It’s not like they are super max GI with a 43* pw

[ATXHorn]

i would suggest to ping to make an I500 tour irons. Slightly smaller head, regular lofts, and maybe decrease the springiness of the face so that it was less of a "distance iron". they look great just tweak it for a tour model.

I have not hit the I500's, but nonetheless was disappointed when I learned they are more of a distance iron than tour iron.

The thought of a true ping forged iron sounded awesome

 

WTH is a tour iron and a distance iron? The i500 can be ordered in retro lofts and get plenty of play on tours worldwide.

I didn't realize my comment would engender such a volatile response. This is golf, not politics, why do you care so much?

I guess I'll reiterate my point..

I originally thought the I500's would be based off a more traditional forging model.

As for it being more of a distance iron, perhaps this excerpt from golf digest will explain it better..

 

"Epitomizing that search for precision boosted with power, or more correctly, power accented with precision, is the Ping i500, a more compact version of the flexible face-insert, hollow-body technology first seen in Ping's Crossover hybrid irons."

Regarding your claim that it gets plenty of play on tours..when did I say it didn't?

 

If you thought that was a "volatile response" you have lived a pretty coddled life. I also did not see any political stance in his comments.

[Kale_m]

i would suggest to ping to make an I500 tour irons. Slightly smaller head, regular lofts, and maybe decrease the springiness of the face so that it was less of a "distance iron". they look great just tweak it for a tour model.

I have not hit the I500's, but nonetheless was disappointed when I learned they are more of a distance iron than tour iron.

The thought of a true ping forged iron sounded awesome

 

WTH is a tour iron and a distance iron? The i500 can be ordered in retro lofts and get plenty of play on tours worldwide.

I decided to follow up on your claim that the ping i500's are played on plenty of tours worldwide.

It turns out that you couldn't be any more wrong. One out of the 19 professional golfers listed on pings website has them playing the i500 and that is Tony Finau. And it just so happens that he's playing with just the I500 3 iron.

I put the link here just in case you want to refute..

http://ping.com/pros/pga-tour

 

I am sure the i500 are awesome clubs, and this whole thing started out by me simply saying that I was hoping they would be more of a traditional forged model.

 

They are in play on tour. And will be in play a lot more next year. Guys don’t switch mid season. I have severa players testing them. And the website isn’t always accurate. There were a lot in play at the PGA.

 

The Titleist 718cb is the same construction. So are the PXG and Taylormade 790s. It was known from day one it was a hollow forged iron.

 

And I didn’t say anything volatile. I asked a simple question.

 

718cb is a hollow body iron? Whhhaattttttttt??

[iteachgolf]

I have not hit the I500's, but nonetheless was disappointed when I learned they are more of a distance iron than tour iron.

The thought of a true ping forged iron sounded awesome

 

WTH is a tour iron and a distance iron? The i500 can be ordered in retro lofts and get plenty of play on tours worldwide.

I decided to follow up on your claim that the ping i500's are played on plenty of tours worldwide.

It turns out that you couldn't be any more wrong. One out of the 19 professional golfers listed on pings website has them playing the i500 and that is Tony Finau. And it just so happens that he's playing with just the I500 3 iron.

I put the link here just in case you want to refute..

http://ping.com/pros/pga-tour

 

I am sure the i500 are awesome clubs, and this whole thing started out by me simply saying that I was hoping they would be more of a traditional forged model.

 

They are in play on tour. And will be in play a lot more next year. Guys don’t switch mid season. I have severa players testing them. And the website isn’t always accurate. There were a lot in play at the PGA.

 

The Titleist 718cb is the same construction. So are the PXG and Taylormade 790s. It was known from day one it was a hollow forged iron.

 

And I didn’t say anything volatile. I asked a simple question.

 

718cb is a hollow body iron? Whhhaattttttttt??

 

In all but the short irons, yes. The 2-7 irons have a hollow cavity in lower portion of the club. The hollow part is partially filled with tungsten at each end in order increase perimeter weighting and MOI. Thin steel face insert welded to a forged body with a hollow cavity in lower portion. So instead of a screw it has tungsten caps hidden inside the hollow cavity. Different take on a very similar design to the i500

[Fairwindsgolfer]

i would suggest to ping to make an I500 tour irons. Slightly smaller head, regular lofts, and maybe decrease the springiness of the face so that it was less of a "distance iron". they look great just tweak it for a tour model.

I have not hit the I500's, but nonetheless was disappointed when I learned they are more of a distance iron than tour iron.

The thought of a true ping forged iron sounded awesome

 

WTH is a tour iron and a distance iron? The i500 can be ordered in retro lofts and get plenty of play on tours worldwide.

I didn't realize my comment would engender such a volatile response. This is golf, not politics, why do you care so much?

I guess I'll reiterate my point..

I originally thought the I500's would be based off a more traditional forging model.

As for it being more of a distance iron, perhaps this excerpt from golf digest will explain it better..

 

"Epitomizing that search for precision boosted with power, or more correctly, power accented with precision, is the Ping i500, a more compact version of the flexible face-insert, hollow-body technology first seen in Ping's Crossover hybrid irons."

Regarding your claim that it gets plenty of play on tours..when did I say it didn't?

 

If you thought that was a "volatile response" you have lived a pretty coddled life. I also did not see any political stance in his comments.

oh yeah that's me. I lived a real coddled life. 9 years active duty in the US Armed Forces.

do me a favor and don't get personal with such a trivial topic, referencing what kind of life you think I lived

[Ivyguy]

i would suggest to ping to make an I500 tour irons. Slightly smaller head, regular lofts, and maybe decrease the springiness of the face so that it was less of a "distance iron". they look great just tweak it for a tour model.

I have not hit the I500's, but nonetheless was disappointed when I learned they are more of a distance iron than tour iron.

The thought of a true ping forged iron sounded awesome

 

WTH is a tour iron and a distance iron? The i500 can be ordered in retro lofts and get plenty of play on tours worldwide.

I decided to follow up on your claim that the ping i500's are played on plenty of tours worldwide.

It turns out that you couldn't be any more wrong. One out of the 19 professional golfers listed on pings website has them playing the i500 and that is Tony Finau. And it just so happens that he's playing with just the I500 3 iron.

I put the link here just in case you want to refute..

http://ping.com/pros/pga-tour

 

I am sure the i500 are awesome clubs, and this whole thing started out by me simply saying that I was hoping they would be more of a traditional forged model.

 

They are in play on tour. And will be in play a lot more next year. Guys don’t switch mid season. I have severa players testing them. And the website isn’t always accurate. There were a lot in play at the PGA.

 

The Titleist 718cb is the same construction. So are the PXG and Taylormade 790s. It was known from day one it was a hollow forged iron.

 

And I didn’t say anything volatile. I asked a simple question.

 

The 718cb is not hollow, it would be the AP3 that is more similar to the player distance thing.

[iteachgolf]

I have not hit the I500's, but nonetheless was disappointed when I learned they are more of a distance iron than tour iron.

The thought of a true ping forged iron sounded awesome

 

WTH is a tour iron and a distance iron? The i500 can be ordered in retro lofts and get plenty of play on tours worldwide.

I decided to follow up on your claim that the ping i500's are played on plenty of tours worldwide.

It turns out that you couldn't be any more wrong. One out of the 19 professional golfers listed on pings website has them playing the i500 and that is Tony Finau. And it just so happens that he's playing with just the I500 3 iron.

I put the link here just in case you want to refute..

http://ping.com/pros/pga-tour

 

I am sure the i500 are awesome clubs, and this whole thing started out by me simply saying that I was hoping they would be more of a traditional forged model.

 

They are in play on tour. And will be in play a lot more next year. Guys don’t switch mid season. I have severa players testing them. And the website isn’t always accurate. There were a lot in play at the PGA.

 

The Titleist 718cb is the same construction. So are the PXG and Taylormade 790s. It was known from day one it was a hollow forged iron.

 

And I didn’t say anything volatile. I asked a simple question.

 

The 718cb is not hollow, it would be the AP3 that is more similar to the player distance thing.

 

There absolutely is a hollow cavity in the 7-2 iron behind the face. It’s 2 piece construction with a thinner welded face exactly for this reason. It’s not a one piece forging. The cavity is filled with Tungsten. He AP3 is nothing like the I500, the ap3 is much closer to the g700

[PreppySlapCut]

There absolutely is a hollow cavity in the 7-2 iron behind the face. It’s 2 piece construction with a thinner welded face exactly for this reason. It’s not a one piece forging. The cavity is filled with Tungsten. He AP3 is nothing like the I500, the ap3 is much closer to the g700

Curious to hear your thoughts from your players testing of these LCG hollow construction irons, particularly in the short irons.

[iteachgolf]

There absolutely is a hollow cavity in the 7-2 iron behind the face. It’s 2 piece construction with a thinner welded face exactly for this reason. It’s not a one piece forging. The cavity is filled with Tungsten. He AP3 is nothing like the I500, the ap3 is much closer to the g700

Curious to hear your thoughts from your players testing of these LCG hollow construction irons, particularly in the short irons.

 

The guys using i500s like them. Haven’t heard anything negative about the short irons. But they are all playing retro specs. I tested them and loved them. Not enough to switch but if I wasn’t already settled on my set they’d likely be in my bag.

[PreppySlapCut]

There absolutely is a hollow cavity in the 7-2 iron behind the face. It’s 2 piece construction with a thinner welded face exactly for this reason. It’s not a one piece forging. The cavity is filled with Tungsten. He AP3 is nothing like the I500, the ap3 is much closer to the g700

Curious to hear your thoughts from your players testing of these LCG hollow construction irons, particularly in the short irons.

 

The guys using i500s like them. Haven’t heard anything negative about the short irons. But they are all playing retro specs. I tested them and loved them. Not enough to switch but if I wasn’t already settled on my set they’d likely be in my bag.

Interesting. The only reason I went away from my PXGs was my distance control w/ my shorter irons, which I felt was more a function of my getting steep and hitting it higher on the face. The launch and forgiveness in the long irons is impossible to ignore.

[iteachgolf]

There absolutely is a hollow cavity in the 7-2 iron behind the face. It’s 2 piece construction with a thinner welded face exactly for this reason. It’s not a one piece forging. The cavity is filled with Tungsten. He AP3 is nothing like the I500, the ap3 is much closer to the g700

Curious to hear your thoughts from your players testing of these LCG hollow construction irons, particularly in the short irons.

 

The guys using i500s like them. Haven’t heard anything negative about the short irons. But they are all playing retro specs. I tested them and loved them. Not enough to switch but if I wasn’t already settled on my set they’d likely be in my bag.

Interesting. The only reason I went away from my PXGs was my distance control w/ my shorter irons, which I felt was more a function of my getting steep and hitting it higher on the face. The launch and forgiveness in the long irons is impossible to ignore.

 

I think the correct shaft and ball is imperative for short irons to be good. Don’t want flyers from the fairway

[Ivyguy]

I have to apologize to everyone, mods please remove me if needed, I thought 718cbs from titleis were solid, not hollow.

 

I feel like a dumbass. I apologize.

 

The i500 i hit and quite liked. If not looking at the club from the bottom, only at address, they looked blade like.

 

I grew up playing mp14 and ta3 ( if u dont know those clubs, this thread is over your head)

 

The i500 felt dense in the right places.

 

I want a more solid state veruon of this for the iBlade replacement.

 

Knowing Ping, right now, they cant make it. That's why its not going to run.

[nic19]

There is a very good TXG video about how retrospec lofts may or may not work for people. Not sure high speed tour pros would get what they re after with these

[rkristopheranderson]

There absolutely is a hollow cavity in the 7-2 iron behind the face. It's 2 piece construction with a thinner welded face exactly for this reason. It's not a one piece forging. The cavity is filled with Tungsten. He AP3 is nothing like the I500, the ap3 is much closer to the g700

Curious to hear your thoughts from your players testing of these LCG hollow construction irons, particularly in the short irons.

 

The guys using i500s like them. Haven't heard anything negative about the short irons. But they are all playing retro specs. I tested them and loved them. Not enough to switch but if I wasn't already settled on my set they'd likely be in my bag.

 

The Ping rep who was in our CC shop mentioned that--better players buying these went retrospecs.

[YoureStillAway1]

I can't see it happening. Took Ping a while for them to come up with a replacement for S55. When it comes to player irons, they take their time. Doubt they have anything coming soon. Certain they're working on something, though.

[QuigleyDU]

There absolutely is a hollow cavity in the 7-2 iron behind the face. It's 2 piece construction with a thinner welded face exactly for this reason. It's not a one piece forging. The cavity is filled with Tungsten. He AP3 is nothing like the I500, the ap3 is much closer to the g700

Curious to hear your thoughts from your players testing of these LCG hollow construction irons, particularly in the short irons.

 

The guys using i500s like them. Haven't heard anything negative about the short irons. But they are all playing retro specs. I tested them and loved them. Not enough to switch but if I wasn't already settled on my set they'd likely be in my bag.

 

thanks Teach, i am surprised people still get in arguing matches with you. the must not know the sphere of influence that you have.

[cvhookem63]

Looks like Louis Oosthuizen is testing a set of Ping blades - supposedly a true MB

 

 

[TheMoneyShot]

Is this slated for a spring 19 release?

[Circaflex]

Looks like Louis Oosthuizen is testing a set of Ping blades - supposedly a true MB

 

 

 

WOW. I am so glade I didn't purchase anything recently, these are going in the bag for sure.

[uglande]

i would suggest to ping to make an I500 tour irons. Slightly smaller head, regular lofts, and maybe decrease the springiness of the face so that it was less of a "distance iron". they look great just tweak it for a tour model.

I have not hit the I500's, but nonetheless was disappointed when I learned they are more of a distance iron than tour iron.

The thought of a true ping forged iron sounded awesome

 

WTH is a tour iron and a distance iron? The i500 can be ordered in retro lofts and get plenty of play on tours worldwide.

I decided to follow up on your claim that the ping i500's are played on plenty of tours worldwide.

It turns out that you couldn't be any more wrong. One out of the 19 professional golfers listed on pings website has them playing the i500 and that is Tony Finau. And it just so happens that he's playing with just the I500 3 iron.

I put the link here just in case you want to refute..

http://ping.com/pros/pga-tour

 

I am sure the i500 are awesome clubs, and this whole thing started out by me simply saying that I was hoping they would be more of a traditional forged model.

 

They are in play on tour. And will be in play a lot more next year. Guys don't switch mid season. I have severa players testing them. And the website isn't always accurate. There were a lot in play at the PGA.

 

The Titleist 718cb is the same construction. So are the PXG and Taylormade 790s. It was known from day one it was a hollow forged iron.

 

And I didn't say anything volatile. I asked a simple question.

 

Have to disagree about i500. I don't think you'll see anyone on tour playing a set of these -- just long-iron replacement. Remember that the tour players have had access to these for a year now. The i500s go too high and are too inconsistent at the bottom end of the bag for tour players. Same with TaylorMade P790. Very popular as driving irons/long-irons, but not precise enough in the scoring irons.

[PowderedToastMan]

It’s your right to disagree with iTeach; just remember that he’s actually out at tour events, with the players, some of which he teaches. I believe what he sees more than what you believe.

[animalgolfs]

The best part of these:

 

By the time these come out my game should be back....

 

SHOULD ⛳?

 

 

[uglande]

It's your right to disagree with iTeach; just remember that he's actually out at tour events, with the players, some of which he teaches. I believe what he sees more than what you believe.

 

These came out at the same time as the i210 and there are lots of those irons in play on tour and the website (Ping's WITB page) reflects this. For i500 ... just an occasional long iron replacement. I guess we can wait and see but I'm not seeing any pros playing hollow-headed irons, from any manufacturer, except in the long irons. Ping's Blueprint forged irons might be the one to break through, although it's still hard to tell from the photos and limited info online if these are solid, hollow, progressively hollow, foam-filled, etc. They look great though.

[QuigleyDU]

It's your right to disagree with iTeach; just remember that he's actually out at tour events, with the players, some of which he teaches. I believe what he sees more than what you believe.

 

These came out at the same time as the i210 and there are lots of those irons in play on tour and the website (Ping's WITB page) reflects this. For i500 ... just an occasional long iron replacement. I guess we can wait and see but I'm not seeing any pros playing hollow-headed irons, from any manufacturer, except in the long irons. Ping's Blueprint forged irons might be the one to break through, although it's still hard to tell from the photos and limited info online if these are solid, hollow, progressively hollow, foam-filled, etc. They look great though.

 

PXGs are hollow and there are a number of pros with those in the bag. Ap2s are hollow'ish and those are in play. never say never.

[tbone18]

It's your right to disagree with iTeach; just remember that he's actually out at tour events, with the players, some of which he teaches. I believe what he sees more than what you believe.

 

These came out at the same time as the i210 and there are lots of those irons in play on tour and the website (Ping's WITB page) reflects this. For i500 ... just an occasional long iron replacement. I guess we can wait and see but I'm not seeing any pros playing hollow-headed irons, from any manufacturer, except in the long irons. Ping's Blueprint forged irons might be the one to break through, although it's still hard to tell from the photos and limited info online if these are solid, hollow, progressively hollow, foam-filled, etc. They look great though.

 

PXGs are hollow and there are a number of pros with those in the bag. Ap2s are hollow'ish and those are in play. never say never.

PXG's are hollow filled with a tpu polymer that supports the face and helps with ball speed. Same as P790's and P760's 3-7 iron. The i500 and G700 are completely hollow, nothing inside but air.

[PowderedToastMan]

It's your right to disagree with iTeach; just remember that he's actually out at tour events, with the players, some of which he teaches. I believe what he sees more than what you believe.

 

These came out at the same time as the i210 and there are lots of those irons in play on tour and the website (Ping's WITB page) reflects this. For i500 ... just an occasional long iron replacement. I guess we can wait and see but I'm not seeing any pros playing hollow-headed irons, from any manufacturer, except in the long irons. Ping's Blueprint forged irons might be the one to break through, although it's still hard to tell from the photos and limited info online if these are solid, hollow, progressively hollow, foam-filled, etc. They look great though.

The guys playing i210 used to play i200. Those are two irons that require almost zero adjustment to. They play very similar and look very similar. It’s an easy switch to make.

 

i500 plays nothing like any PING iron and frankly looks unique to any PING iron (medium blade length, low offset, medium sole width). There’s no way a tour player could bag those, mid season, and adjust quickly.

 

I would agree that more guys are going to bag i210, but it’s too early to determine how many will bag full i500 sets.

[easyyy]

Have to disagree about i500. I don't think you'll see anyone on tour playing a set of these -- just long-iron replacement. Remember that the tour players have had access to these for a year now. The i500s go too high and are too inconsistent at the bottom end of the bag for tour players. Same with TaylorMade P790. Very popular as driving irons/long-irons, but not precise enough in the scoring irons.

 

 

And I don't think the i500's or the 790's spin enough to get play on tour. No hold on the greens.

[braincramp52]

It's your right to disagree with iTeach; just remember that he's actually out at tour events, with the players, some of which he teaches. I believe what he sees more than what you believe.

 

These came out at the same time as the i210 and there are lots of those irons in play on tour and the website (Ping's WITB page) reflects this. For i500 ... just an occasional long iron replacement. I guess we can wait and see but I'm not seeing any pros playing hollow-headed irons, from any manufacturer, except in the long irons. Ping's Blueprint forged irons might be the one to break through, although it's still hard to tell from the photos and limited info online if these are solid, hollow, progressively hollow, foam-filled, etc. They look great though.

 

PXGs are hollow and there are a number of pros with those in the bag. Ap2s are hollow'ish and those are in play. never say never.

PXG's are hollow filled with a tpu polymer that supports the face and helps with ball speed. Same as P790's and P760's 3-7 iron. The i500 and G700 are completely hollow, nothing inside but air.

 

People that own the I500's say they are not hollow.

[jj9000]

People that own the I500's say they are not hollow.

 

Well...they're not completely hollow.

 

They're filled with air.