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Yes, it's a pretty big myth that golf scholarships for girls are easy to get. You need to be a damned good player to get any level of D1 scholarship money, full-rides being even tougher. When you consider the highly regarded and most desirable colleges and universities, whether youre looking at athletic reputation or academic reputation, it gets even harder and is extremely competitive.

 

Still, boy's scholarships are at an entirely different level of competitiveness. It's a numbers game. There are way more junior male golfers than female, and they're competing for less available scholarships due to Title ix. Only the best of the best get full rides.

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I'll add some color from personal experience. My daughter is a sophomore in college, playing golf on a full-ride at a mid-tier (athletics) D1 university with an excellent academic and student life reputation. We feel extremely fortunate.

 

My daughter was a good junior player, but not consistently great. She was ranked around 140 for her graduating class her senior year, but on occassion dipped into the top 100 briefly during the recruiting phase prior to that.

 

I believe 3 main things contributed to her getting a 100% scholarship even with relatively mediocre JGS rankings.

 

1. She was a multi-sport athlete and not a "golf only" kid, and she's a long hitter with good solid swing mechanics. Many coaches (but not all) like to recruit "athletes."

 

2. She made it through sectional qualifying to 2 USGA National championships, the US Girl's Junior, and the US Women's Am. These are high profile and attract coach's attention as USGA set-ups are notoriously difficult. Many highly ranked players dont make it to these events, so they carry weight.

 

3. We got lucky! I say that because she played in a fairly high profile junior event with a large field and won the tournament in a playoff after shooting under par in the final round. We were lucky in that there were a bunch of coaches watching that day, including her current college coach. He made her the offer right after that event.

 

It also did not hurt that her grades were good and she did some impressive things in community service that ultimately led to her winning the AJGA-USGA Presidents Leadership Award.

 

BTW, scholarships are not guaranteed for all 4 years, and players re-sign annually. Many coaches will give you a verbal promise (not binding) for all 4, but many will not.

 

We feel very fortunate. Shes had only moderate success with her golf so far in college, but the overall experience has been great and shes getting a top notch education.

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Yes, it's a pretty big myth that golf scholarships for girls are easy to get. You need to be a damned good player to get any level of D1 scholarship money, full-rides being even tougher. When you consider the highly regarded and most desirable colleges and universities, whether youre looking at athletic reputation or academic reputation, it gets even harder and is extremely competitive.

 

Still, boy's scholarships are at an entirely different level of competitiveness. It's a numbers game. There are way more junior male golfers than female, and they're competing for less available scholarships due to Title ix. Only the best of the best get full rides.

 

I semi-got into an argument with a lady at an event the other day about scholarships.

 

Me: How you doing? Where is your daughter going to school?

Her: She is going to ______ which is a DIII school.

Me: That is great. How much academic money did she get?

Her: She got a full athletic ride.

Me: Wow. That is amazing considering DIII schools don't give athletic scholarships. DIII football players don't even get athletic money. The only money they can give is for academics.

Her: There are ways around that. She got a grant.

Me: Really? A grant isn't a scholarship. You have to pay grant money back.

Her: Blank stare.

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Sounds like a great kid...is that her in your profile pic?

 

Yes sir. She got to play a round of golf with Rickie Fowler at The Bear's Club for winning the AJGA-USGA Presidents Leadership Award. Quite a nice experience!

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I think the conventional wisdom about ladies' golf scholarships is less true now than back when people started saying it (and it's debatable whether it was all that true back then).

 

I think the general post-Title IX thinking was that women should find a tertiary sport in which to excel, since coaches would supposedly have all these scholarships and nowhere to use them. That gap closed pretty quickly. Now there are year-round competitive travel teams for all the women's scholarship sports.

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Not to sure how many have done college camps but we done a bunch of them and you can almost always count on at least one or two girls who are trying to get on a scholarship but can't break 80 consistently. They have broken 80 once in tournament but you really need a better record then that.

 

From what I seen and been told is if you getting in the low 70s on college length courses there is a pretty good chance of multiple colleges interested. That really means they are pretty much scratch from around 6000 yards.

 

I have also been told if you have good academic studies that helps with girls who may be a project since they can have more projects on the team. So a good reason to make sure you kids also take advanced classes as well in school.

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Grade point average is a critical part of the recruiting process. My daughter is a strong player, 76 from 6000+ yards. She is improving from a year depression, in which her GPA suffered. She has reached out to D1 schools, some who have looked at her and some who haven't. She's been told she has the ability but her academics are a turn off. She has been offered a few D2 and NAIA scholarships and I feel this would be the best way for her to go, if she desires.

 

 

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You're correct, they don't give athletic scholarships at D3 schools...in name. But in reality they do. Just a disguise. If they want you, they'll make it happen.

 

I received "academic" scholarships and grants to a D3 school...where I played golf. Scholarships are given for essentially any reason the school decides. Oh you're good at football, here's 15k in 'academic' scholarships..even though you're a C student. Essentially my scholarships covered most of what my "need based" grants did not.

 

Grants are a bit different but also do NOT need to be paid back. They're usually based on income levels for the parents and student...which determines the need...which is what they are granted based on.

Yes, it's a pretty big myth that golf scholarships for girls are easy to get. You need to be a damned good player to get any level of D1 scholarship money, full-rides being even tougher. When you consider the highly regarded and most desirable colleges and universities, whether youre looking at athletic reputation or academic reputation, it gets even harder and is extremely competitive.

 

Still, boy's scholarships are at an entirely different level of competitiveness. It's a numbers game. There are way more junior male golfers than female, and they're competing for less available scholarships due to Title ix. Only the best of the best get full rides.

 

I semi-got into an argument with a lady at an event the other day about scholarships.

 

Me: How you doing? Where is your daughter going to school?

Her: She is going to ______ which is a DIII school.

Me: That is great. How much academic money did she get?

Her: She got a full athletic ride.

Me: Wow. That is amazing considering DIII schools don't give athletic scholarships. DIII football players don't even get athletic money. The only money they can give is for academics.

Her: There are ways around that. She got a grant.

Me: Really? A grant isn't a scholarship. You have to pay grant money back.

Her: Blank stare.

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GPA is certainly a factor when they are evaluating athletes, but it obviously depends on who they are competing against. They'll take a girl with a C average in the classroom and a 74 average on the course over a girl with an A average and a 79. It's a balancing act.

 

A friend of mine who is an assistant coach at a smaller D1 school out west says they have some money for scholarships, but they need to see positive results so that the departments continue to send it their way... especially since it's a non revenue generating sport.

 

I hope your daughter finds a place she enjoys and plays well! Best wishes!

Grade point average is a critical part of the recruiting process. My daughter is a strong player, 76 from 6000+ yards. She is improving from a year depression, in which her GPA suffered. She has reached out to D1 schools, some who have looked at her and some who haven't. She's been told she has the ability but her academics are a turn off. She has been offered a few D2 and NAIA scholarships and I feel this would be the best way for her to go, if she desires.
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Yes, it's a pretty big myth that golf scholarships for girls are easy to get. You need to be a damned good player to get any level of D1 scholarship money, full-rides being even tougher. When you consider the highly regarded and most desirable colleges and universities, whether youre looking at athletic reputation or academic reputation, it gets even harder and is extremely competitive.

 

Still, boy's scholarships are at an entirely different level of competitiveness. It's a numbers game. There are way more junior male golfers than female, and they're competing for less available scholarships due to Title ix. Only the best of the best get full rides.

 

I semi-got into an argument with a lady at an event the other day about scholarships.

 

Me: How you doing? Where is your daughter going to school?

Her: She is going to ______ which is a DIII school.

Me: That is great. How much academic money did she get?

Her: She got a full athletic ride.

Me: Wow. That is amazing considering DIII schools don't give athletic scholarships. DIII football players don't even get athletic money. The only money they can give is for academics.

Her: There are ways around that. She got a grant.

Me: Really? A grant isn't a scholarship. You have to pay grant money back.

Her: Blank stare.

 

Actually, you don't have to pay back a grant. Maybe that's why she gave you a blank stare. I played D3 and got grants that covered almost everything, but probably had more to do with my academics and test scores than my marginal golf skills (I was #3 guy on the team).

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Yes, it's a pretty big myth that golf scholarships for girls are easy to get. You need to be a damned good player to get any level of D1 scholarship money, full-rides being even tougher. When you consider the highly regarded and most desirable colleges and universities, whether youre looking at athletic reputation or academic reputation, it gets even harder and is extremely competitive.

 

Still, boy's scholarships are at an entirely different level of competitiveness. It's a numbers game. There are way more junior male golfers than female, and they're competing for less available scholarships due to Title ix. Only the best of the best get full rides.

 

I semi-got into an argument with a lady at an event the other day about scholarships.

 

Me: How you doing? Where is your daughter going to school?

Her: She is going to ______ which is a DIII school.

Me: That is great. How much academic money did she get?

Her: She got a full athletic ride.

Me: Wow. That is amazing considering DIII schools don't give athletic scholarships. DIII football players don't even get athletic money. The only money they can give is for academics.

Her: There are ways around that. She got a grant.

Me: Really? A grant isn't a scholarship. You have to pay grant money back.

Her: Blank stare.

 

Actually, you don't have to pay back a grant. Maybe that's why she gave you a blank stare. I played D3 and got grants that covered almost everything, but probably had more to do with my academics and test scores than my marginal golf skills (I was #3 guy on the team).

 

I appreciate the clarification.

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Still trying to get my daughter into rowing. Scholarship heaven!

 

Not really true. Funny enough, I have two daughters. My older one rowed all through HS. She's fairly tall at 5'9" which is considered an advantage in rowing and had decent erg times in the mid 7s.

 

A fully funded D1 rowing program will have 20 scholarships to spread around. The problem is that they often carry over 50 rowers on the team. Many teams are not fully funded and may only have 15 scholarships to spread around for 55 girls. Also consider that most schools dont even have a rowing program.

 

In the end, only the real "beasts" will get a full ride. I'm talking girls who can really pull incredible numbers on the erg and are typically 6' or taller and >180lbs. Any remaining money gets divvied up amongst the rest.

 

When my daughter was recruited the best she was offered was $6500 against a $55k annual tuition. Consider the massive time commitment and the intensity of the training and we decided it was not worth it...

 

Edit to add: Compare what I've described above to a fully funded women's golf team with 6 full scholarships and often only 8 players on the team plus maybe a walk-on or two...

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Golf and tennis do have the advantage of long-running and well-known tournaments where individuals have an opportunity to stand out and get noticed. If you play volleyball, you either need to be the student that a coach is coming to see, or be on that person's team, or be playing against that person when a coach happens to visit. You have to rely more on luck and genetics.

 

A tennis player probably needs the genetic advantage too. But a young golfer can be made from almost anyone who has the desire.

 

Maybe that's where the conventional wisdom about girls' golf scholarships is rooted. Not every girl can be a scholarship basketball player, but they still have a shot on the links.

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Still trying to get my daughter into rowing. Scholarship heaven!

 

Not really true. Funny enough, I have two daughters. My older one rowed all through HS. She's fairly tall at 5'9" which is considered an advantage in rowing and had decent erg times in the mid 7s.

 

A fully funded D1 rowing program will have 20 scholarships to spread around. The problem is that they often carry over 50 rowers on the team. Many teams are not fully funded and may only have 15 scholarships to spread around for 55 girls. Also consider that most schools dont even have a rowing program.

 

In the end, only the real "beasts" will get a full ride. I'm talking girls who can really pull incredible numbers on the erg and are typically 6' or taller and >180lbs. Any remaining money gets divvied up amongst the rest.

 

When my daughter was recruited the best she was offered was $6500 against a $55k annual tuition. Consider the massive time commitment and the intensity of the training and we decided it was not worth it...

 

Edit to add: Compare what I've described above to a fully funded women's golf team with 6 full scholarships and often only 8 players on the team plus maybe a walk-on or two...

 

I would have to think that any scholarship money received to a rowing program needs to be reconciled with the fact that most rowing programs are concentrated in the East Coast, in higher-tuition universities. It’s great to say you have a scholarship, but when the tuition still ends up being greater than a good state school, does it really matter?

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Still trying to get my daughter into rowing. Scholarship heaven!

 

Not really true. Funny enough, I have two daughters. My older one rowed all through HS. She's fairly tall at 5'9" which is considered an advantage in rowing and had decent erg times in the mid 7s.

 

A fully funded D1 rowing program will have 20 scholarships to spread around. The problem is that they often carry over 50 rowers on the team. Many teams are not fully funded and may only have 15 scholarships to spread around for 55 girls. Also consider that most schools dont even have a rowing program.

 

In the end, only the real "beasts" will get a full ride. I'm talking girls who can really pull incredible numbers on the erg and are typically 6' or taller and >180lbs. Any remaining money gets divvied up amongst the rest.

 

When my daughter was recruited the best she was offered was $6500 against a $55k annual tuition. Consider the massive time commitment and the intensity of the training and we decided it was not worth it...

 

Edit to add: Compare what I've described above to a fully funded women's golf team with 6 full scholarships and often only 8 players on the team plus maybe a walk-on or two...

 

I would have to think that any scholarship money received to a rowing program needs to be reconciled with the fact that most rowing programs are concentrated in the East Coast, in higher-tuition universities. It’s great to say you have a scholarship, but when the tuition still ends up being greater than a good state school, does it really matter?

 

Exactly! Plus, when you consider the massive time commitment over the course of an entire year many would come out ahead working part-time at the campus Starbucks...lol!

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Still trying to get my daughter into rowing. Scholarship heaven!

 

Not really true. Funny enough, I have two daughters. My older one rowed all through HS. She's fairly tall at 5'9" which is considered an advantage in rowing and had decent erg times in the mid 7s.

 

A fully funded D1 rowing program will have 20 scholarships to spread around. The problem is that they often carry over 50 rowers on the team. Many teams are not fully funded and may only have 15 scholarships to spread around for 55 girls. Also consider that most schools dont even have a rowing program.

 

In the end, only the real "beasts" will get a full ride. I'm talking girls who can really pull incredible numbers on the erg and are typically 6' or taller and >180lbs. Any remaining money gets divvied up amongst the rest.

 

When my daughter was recruited the best she was offered was $6500 against a $55k annual tuition. Consider the massive time commitment and the intensity of the training and we decided it was not worth it...

 

Edit to add: Compare what I've described above to a fully funded women's golf team with 6 full scholarships and often only 8 players on the team plus maybe a walk-on or two...

 

I would have to think that any scholarship money received to a rowing program needs to be reconciled with the fact that most rowing programs are concentrated in the East Coast, in higher-tuition universities. It’s great to say you have a scholarship, but when the tuition still ends up being greater than a good state school, does it really matter?

 

Actually, for D1 or DII rowers there are 20 scholarships available for women. None for men.

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Still trying to get my daughter into rowing. Scholarship heaven!

 

Not really true. Funny enough, I have two daughters. My older one rowed all through HS. She's fairly tall at 5'9" which is considered an advantage in rowing and had decent erg times in the mid 7s.

 

A fully funded D1 rowing program will have 20 scholarships to spread around. The problem is that they often carry over 50 rowers on the team. Many teams are not fully funded and may only have 15 scholarships to spread around for 55 girls. Also consider that most schools dont even have a rowing program.

 

In the end, only the real "beasts" will get a full ride. I'm talking girls who can really pull incredible numbers on the erg and are typically 6' or taller and >180lbs. Any remaining money gets divvied up amongst the rest.

 

When my daughter was recruited the best she was offered was $6500 against a $55k annual tuition. Consider the massive time commitment and the intensity of the training and we decided it was not worth it...

 

Edit to add: Compare what I've described above to a fully funded women's golf team with 6 full scholarships and often only 8 players on the team plus maybe a walk-on or two...

 

I would have to think that any scholarship money received to a rowing program needs to be reconciled with the fact that most rowing programs are concentrated in the East Coast, in higher-tuition universities. It’s great to say you have a scholarship, but when the tuition still ends up being greater than a good state school, does it really matter?

 

Actually, for D1 or DII rowers there are 20 scholarships available for women. None for men.

 

20 if they're fully funded, less if not. See my post above...often over 50 girls on a team. Give 4 or 5 fulls to the real stand-outs and there's not a lot left to spread around.

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Still trying to get my daughter into rowing. Scholarship heaven!

 

Not really true. Funny enough, I have two daughters. My older one rowed all through HS. She's fairly tall at 5'9" which is considered an advantage in rowing and had decent erg times in the mid 7s.

 

A fully funded D1 rowing program will have 20 scholarships to spread around. The problem is that they often carry over 50 rowers on the team. Many teams are not fully funded and may only have 15 scholarships to spread around for 55 girls. Also consider that most schools dont even have a rowing program.

 

In the end, only the real "beasts" will get a full ride. I'm talking girls who can really pull incredible numbers on the erg and are typically 6' or taller and >180lbs. Any remaining money gets divvied up amongst the rest.

 

When my daughter was recruited the best she was offered was $6500 against a $55k annual tuition. Consider the massive time commitment and the intensity of the training and we decided it was not worth it...

 

Edit to add: Compare what I've described above to a fully funded women's golf team with 6 full scholarships and often only 8 players on the team plus maybe a walk-on or two...

 

I would have to think that any scholarship money received to a rowing program needs to be reconciled with the fact that most rowing programs are concentrated in the East Coast, in higher-tuition universities. It's great to say you have a scholarship, but when the tuition still ends up being greater than a good state school, does it really matter?

 

Actually, for D1 or DII rowers there are 20 scholarships available for women. None for men.

 

20 if they're fully funded, less if not. See my post above...often over 50 girls on a team. Give 4 or 5 fulls to the real stand-outs and there's not a lot left to spread around.

 

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      2024 Cognizant Classic - Monday #2
      2024 Cognizant Classic - Monday #3
      2024 Cognizant Classic - Monday #4
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Brandt Snedeker - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Max Greyserman - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Eric Cole - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Carl Yuan - WITb - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Russell Henley - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Justin Sun - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Alex Noren - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Shane Lowry - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Taylor Montgomery - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Jake Knapp (KnappTime_ltd) - WITB - - 2024 Cognizant Classic
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      New Super Stoke Pistol Lock 1.0 & 2.0 grips - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      LA Golf new insert putter - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      New Garsen Quad Tour 15 grip - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      New Swag covers - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Jacob Bridgeman's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Bud Cauley's custom Cameron putters - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Ryo Hisatsune's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Chris Kirk - new black Callaway Apex CB irons and a few Odyssey putters - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Alejandro Tosti's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Cognizant Classic
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
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    • 2024 Genesis Invitational - Discussion and Links to Photos
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      General Albums
       
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Monday #1
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Monday #2
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Tuesday #1
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Tuesday #2
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Tuesday #3
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Tuesday #4
       
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Rory McIlroy - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Sepp Straka - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Patrick Rodgers - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Brendon Todd - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Denny McCarthy - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Corey Conners - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Chase Johnson - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tiger Woods - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tommy Fleetwood - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Matt Fitzpatrick - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Si Woo Kim - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Viktor Hovland - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Wyndham Clark - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Cam Davis - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Nick Taylor - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Ben Baller WITB update (New putter, driver, hybrid and shafts) – 2024 Genesis Invitational
       
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      New Vortex Golf rangefinder - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      New Fujikura Ventus shaft - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tiger Woods & TaylorMade "Sun Day Red" apparel launch event, product photos – 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tiger Woods Sun Day Red golf shoes - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Aretera shafts - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      New Toulon putters - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tiger Woods' new white "Sun Day Red" golf shoe prototypes – 2024 Genesis Invitational
       
       
       
       
       
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