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This generation of Z-Star doesn’t spin as much. I have gamed them along with Chromesoft and the Bridgestone BXS this year. The differences really are negligible between them, but I have found more consistency with the Bridgestones.

 

That said the Q-Star Tours are quite good. I was lucky enough to be a tester and they are amazing.

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I'm a Z Star fan, I won a dozen of the soccer ball looking Chrome softs.

 

I really wanted to like them.

 

I don't.

 

I played two rounds with them and lost 2 balls and shot some crappy scores.

 

Being a fairly consistent misser of greens, my up and down skills are pretty good.

 

For some reason, mental perhaps, I couldn't get the chrome softs to stop near the hole.

 

Also, my drives didn't go nearly as far.

 

Doesn't make them bad balls, just didn't work for me.

 

YMMV

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I would say the Chrome soft grips more on chip shots. Both are the same distance off the driver.

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In my experience with the two.

 

Off the putter, I would say the Chrome Soft is everso slightly softer. Z Star is still amongst the softest balls off the putter. The only one I can think of that feels softer is W/S Duo Urethane.

 

Your mileage may vary depending on your putter.

 

Z Star's spinskin is real technology, and definitely adds some spin onto the shortest of chips and pitches. Chrome Soft is a viable performer and a good short game ball as well. But Srixon leads that category for me.

 

 

Off the driver...I cant tell a discernable difference in launch, distance, anything. Too marginal.

 

Irons. Not much difference for me. Id say the short irons, say 8 iron on down, get a few more RPMs out of the Srixon. But for me, Callaway launches higher, so the differences are negligible there as well.

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Not even comparable in my opinion. Z star is hard, durable, and spins. Callaway is soft. less spin, and not as durable. Both good balls but for different games.

 

Found out compression rating: zstar is 88 CS is 70....

 

Not an apples to apples comparison since Srixon lists overall compression while Callaway only lists core compression. The balls are likely around the same overall. Srixon urethane covers tend to be a bit harder and thinner than the rest of the big OEMs resulting in a bit harder feel vs other balls at the same compression.

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Not even a comparison IMO. Z star is a superior ball. Longer off the driver, soft enough, and bites on greens where the CS rolls and rolls and rolls. The CS balloons off the driver for me. The CSX is a pretty good ball though. Still very soft and does grab at least a little on the greens.

 

The Z star is a great ball, though...as good as it gets.

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Picked up a dozen ZStar on sale at PGA SS, figured as I was out of CS, would be a good winter/cold weather ball....then I played them, reminded me why I play Chrome Soft....ymmv

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Z Star is a great cold weather ball, love the yellow. I love the look of TruVis esp. the American Flags but the Chromesofts just don't give me enough distance off the driver and they don't check up as well on wedge shots. Haven't had a chance to try the Chomesoft X, hopefully those are a little better.

 

Each to their own I guess. I picked up some ZStars in yellow as they were on sale and figured good enough for winter....my experience was exact opposite of yours. I gave the remaining 3 sleeves of ZStar to a buddy

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Wow - responses all over the map here. Result: inconclusive.

 

Same as everything else in golf, there are no absolutes. We use trends to narrow our focus, but it doesn’t mean we will ourselves experience the same results as others.

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The Z-Star (88) is a firmer ball than the Chrome Soft (66). The Q-Star (75) and Bridgestone BXS (75) are more comparable to the Chrome Soft (66). The Bridgestone RX (66) and RXS (64) will be the best compression matches..

 

Dimple quantity, size and depth will alter flight tendencies which means some match my swing better than others.

 

Real world effects for me is mostly similar Driver distances, but firmer balls result is loss of 1/2 club or even more with irons.

 

After an injury, I went from playing the old B330 (105) and V1X (110?) to several years of the RX and CS. Now I'm in the BXS and Q-Star for feel, flight and predictability into and on greens.

 

Bottom line, buy several sleeves and try them on the course you normally play. Differences, both desirable and not-so-much will show themselves in short order.

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The Z-Star (88) is a firmer ball than the Chrome Soft (66). The Q-Star (75) and Bridgestone BXS (75) are more comparable to the Chrome Soft (66). The Bridgestone RX (66) and RXS (64) will be the best compression matches..

 

Dimple quantity, size and depth will alter flight tendencies which means some match my swing better than others.

 

Real world effects for me is mostly similar Driver distances, but firmer balls result is loss of 1/2 club or even more with irons.

 

After an injury, I went from playing the old B330 (105) and V1X (110?) to several years of the RX and CS. Now I'm in the BXS and Q-Star for feel, flight and predictability into and on greens.

 

Bottom line, buy several sleeves and try them on the course you normally play. Differences, both desirable and not-so-much will show themselves in short order.

 

As I previously stated, there is no industry standard for compression so comparing figures from different companies is not apples to apples.

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The Z-Star (88) is a firmer ball than the Chrome Soft (66). The Q-Star (75) and Bridgestone BXS (75) are more comparable to the Chrome Soft (66). The Bridgestone RX (66) and RXS (64) will be the best compression matches..

 

Dimple quantity, size and depth will alter flight tendencies which means some match my swing better than others.

 

Real world effects for me is mostly similar Driver distances, but firmer balls result is loss of 1/2 club or even more with irons.

 

After an injury, I went from playing the old B330 (105) and V1X (110?) to several years of the RX and CS. Now I'm in the BXS and Q-Star for feel, flight and predictability into and on greens.

 

Bottom line, buy several sleeves and try them on the course you normally play. Differences, both desirable and not-so-much will show themselves in short order.

 

As I previously stated, there is no industry standard for compression so comparing figures from different companies is not apples to apples.

 

While I agree that there is not a scientifically precise uniform measurement, your complete dismissal of the compression numbers defies logic and is a rude manner of dismissing those who do not share your point of view.

 

Like shaft flexes, they do serve as a good guide indicating the difference in firmness and indicate a "comfort zone".

 

When my swing speed was 110+, I didn't much care if I was hitting a rockflight or a marshmallow. After a significant neck injury, the compression absolutely makes a difference in feel, distance and confidence. We may pretend the difference is arbitrary, but the difference in firmness can be felt during contact and seen in flight as well as the end result.

 

For players with moderate swing speed and "feel" players, the difference is very real whatever the exact number may be.

 

Like every other aspect of golf, your mileage may vary, but it will never negate the real and perceived experience others may have in their pursuit of this wonderful game.

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The Z-Star (88) is a firmer ball than the Chrome Soft (66). The Q-Star (75) and Bridgestone BXS (75) are more comparable to the Chrome Soft (66). The Bridgestone RX (66) and RXS (64) will be the best compression matches..

 

Dimple quantity, size and depth will alter flight tendencies which means some match my swing better than others.

 

Real world effects for me is mostly similar Driver distances, but firmer balls result is loss of 1/2 club or even more with irons.

 

After an injury, I went from playing the old B330 (105) and V1X (110?) to several years of the RX and CS. Now I'm in the BXS and Q-Star for feel, flight and predictability into and on greens.

 

Bottom line, buy several sleeves and try them on the course you normally play. Differences, both desirable and not-so-much will show themselves in short order.

 

As I previously stated, there is no industry standard for compression so comparing figures from different companies is not apples to apples.

 

While I agree that there is not a scientifically precise uniform measurement, your complete dismissal of the compression numbers defies logic and is a rude manner of dismissing those who do not share your point of view.

 

Like shaft flexes, they do serve as a good guide indicating the difference in firmness and indicate a "comfort zone".

 

When my swing speed was 110+, I didn't much care if I was hitting a rockflight or a marshmallow. After a significant neck injury, the compression absolutely makes a difference in feel, distance and confidence. We may pretend the difference is arbitrary, but the difference in firmness can be felt during contact and seen in flight as well as the end result.

 

For players with moderate swing speed and "feel" players, the difference is very real whatever the exact number may be.

 

Like every other aspect of golf, your mileage may vary, but it will never negate the real and perceived experience others may have in their pursuit of this wonderful game.

 

Not dismissing compression, but not only do the different OEMs not use the same method but many measure different parts of the ball completely. Example, Callaway and Bridgestone have historically measure the core only vs Srixon that measures the entire ball. Comparing numbers from different models from the same company is completely fine (just like shaft flex), but comparing to another company that measures the attribute completely differently is not objective.

 

The only way to objectively compare compression across different companies is for a 3rd party to measure using a consistent method. Take a look at this if you haven’t already seen it as this is the best I have found (although it has not been updated in the last several years):

 

http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/1374950-2016-compression-data/

 

Ultimately, nothing will replace actual on course testing but objectively comparing specific attributes (material, construction, relative hardness) vs a familiar baseline can help to narrow down prospects.

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I'm going to throw this out there; in my on-course experience the Chrome Soft has significantly less side spin and is a much straighter ball. That is, it's more forgiving on driver and iron shots with less directional deviation. I don't have any stats to back that up but that's what I've found. Z-Star can be wild at times though is a little better round the greens.

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