Iron Shaft Length

ObiwanForAllObiwanForAll Members Posts: 79 ✭✭✭
Ok so here is the story....



I've been playing my driver at 44.5" in length. The idea was to get more control but I tend to miss left and it got worse the shorter the driver became.



I went to a fitting at Club Champion and 44.5" driver did indeed close the face by about -5 degrees (drastic). We increased the shaft length and each 1/4" was getting closer to 0 degrees. When we reached 45.5" I was at 0 degrees face and 0 degrees club path. Perfect, and I've never driven the ball better.



This got me thinking....if I'm playing my driver longer than standard.....should all my clubs be longer than standard? Or is each category (fairway woods, irons, wedges) fitted independently?
Driver - TM M5 - Fujikura Ventus 6X
3-Wood - TM M5 - Fujikura Ventus 7X
2 Iron - TM GAPR Pro - KBS Prototype
4-PW - TM P790 - Project X Catalyst 100 6.5
Wedges - (50/54/60) TM Hi Toe - Project X Catalyst 100 6.0
Putter - Scotty Futura 6M - Breakthrough Stability Shaft  

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  • Stuart_GStuart_G New HampshireMembers Posts: 23,858 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    edited Oct 11, 2018 #2
    Was the swing weight (or shaft weight) adjusted as you went shorter? It's good you're getting good results - and that's all that really matters - but weight issues would be a much more likely candidate for why the left miss got worse than the playing length really being to blame. e.g. I'm guessing you don't have to play your 3wd at 45.5" to avoid the left miss getting worse for that club :-) Proper length fitting (particularly with the longer clubs) involves much more than just trying a club at a given length.



    But no, the longer club playing lengths should be fitted independently from the irons/wedges. The factors to consider vary a bit.
  • SocratesSocrates How can it be so *&#% hard to make a shoulder turn? WinnipegClubWRX Posts: 9,479 ClubWRX
    So...., you went for a fitting at Club Champion and only did the driver? Why wouldn't you do the whole set?
    Ping G400 9º TFC 419 Stiff at 45"
    Cobra F8 5-6 Fwy at 18.5° Stiff
    Ping i20 3 Hyb 707H Stiff
    X2 Hot 4_-PW Recoil 660 F3 +1/2"
    Vokey SM2 52º cc, Ping ES 56º and ES 60º
    Ping Sigma2 Valor at 34.5"
    MCC Align Midsize
    Moving to the bench:
    Jazz Bear Cat 3 wd Aerotech Stiff
    Scotty X7M Dual 38"
    Ping Forged 52°

  • MarkAJonesMarkAJones Jonesy Members Posts: 228 ✭✭
    edited Oct 11, 2018 #4
    I got 3 Glide wedges (50, 54 and 58) made up to the same length as my i200 PW. So my 58 is effectively an inch and a half longer than standard (I'm +1 across all clubs anyway)



    I haven't noticed any significant opening of the face as a result. I guess it may have slightly affected bounce as they each designed to be progressively shorter. But what i might have "lost" there (haven't noticed tbh) I gained by not hitting skulls and chunks any more. My "wedge swing" is consistent throughout all 4 wedges now.



    So for me, adding length definitely helped at the opposite end of the bag.
    Hart Common Golf Club, Westhoughton, United Kingdom

    WITB:


    Driver:
    TaylorMade 2017 M1 HZRDUS Stiff 10.5
    Hybrid: TaylorMade M1 Hybrid #2 Kuro Kage Stiff Set at 15.5
    Hybrid: TaylorMade M1 Hybrid #3 Kuro Kage Stiff Set at 18
    Hybrid: TaylorMade M1 Hybrid #4 Kuro Kage Stiff Set at 22.5
    Irons: Ping i200 5 - PW AWT 2.0 Stiff Green dot +1inch
    Wedge 1:
    Ping Glide 50 degree CFS Wedge Flex Green dot +1inch
    Wedge 2:
    Ping Glide 54 degree CFS Wedge Flex Green dot +1.25inch
    Wedge 3:
    Ping Glide 58 degree CFS Wedge Flex Green dot +1.50inch
    Putter: Ping Ketsch Cadence 375g

    Gamer Ball: Bridgestone B330RXS
  • ObiwanForAllObiwanForAll Members Posts: 79 ✭✭✭
    edited Oct 11, 2018 #5
    Stuart G. wrote:


    Was the swing weight (or shaft weight) adjusted as you went shorter? It's good you're getting good results - and that's all that really matters - but weight issues would be a much more likely candidate for why the left miss got worse than the playing length really being to blame. e.g. I'm guessing you don't have to play your 3wd at 45.5" to avoid the left miss getting worse for that club :-) Proper length fitting (particularly with the longer clubs) involves much more than just trying a club at a given length.



    But no, the longer club playing lengths should be fitted independently from the irons/wedges. The factors to consider vary a bit.




    It was interesting but the 44.5" swingweight was D2. When we went to 45.5" we started at D7 and spin was way up. I was casting the club but face and path were still close to 0. Once we adjusted to D3....bingo. No question it plays a part. Thanks for the insight!


    Socrates wrote:


    So...., you went for a fitting at Club Champion and only did the driver? Why wouldn't you do the whole set?




    Money. One thing at a time. FYI, I think they are having a discount come November for anyone interested.
    Driver - TM M5 - Fujikura Ventus 6X
    3-Wood - TM M5 - Fujikura Ventus 7X
    2 Iron - TM GAPR Pro - KBS Prototype
    4-PW - TM P790 - Project X Catalyst 100 6.5
    Wedges - (50/54/60) TM Hi Toe - Project X Catalyst 100 6.0
    Putter - Scotty Futura 6M - Breakthrough Stability Shaft  
  • arbeckarbeck SeattleMembers Posts: 438 ✭✭✭✭
    Socrates wrote:


    So...., you went for a fitting at Club Champion and only did the driver? Why wouldn't you do the whole set?




    I don't want to speak for the original poster, but there are many reasons one might not do a full set. Number one is cost. If you add fairways, it's an additional cost. Irons, additional cost. Wedges additional cost. Putter additional cost. Number two is time. Every component is going to take 30-60 minutes to fit. You could easily spend 4-5 hours for a full bag fitting. Related to time is that taking that many swings is hard and you might be so tired by the end that the fitting is not really very good.
    Ping Traverse
    King Cobra F7 10.5* w/ Mitsubishi Tensi CK Blue 60 set at 9.5*
    TEE E8 4W, 7W
    Mizuno JPX-900 Hot Metal 5-SW w/ Veylix Alpina 873
    TEE CB PROs 60*
    Scotty Cameron Squareback
  • bladehunterbladehunter Today was a good day... south carolinaMembers Posts: 27,624 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    First person I’ve heard of that went up in Driver length and hit it straighter. That’s pretty weird. Maybe go to 48 and play a fade at long drive ?
    Ping G410  11.2* Tensei pro OrangeV2 proto 70TX 
    Ping G410 15.5* Graphite Design ADDI 8x
    Ping G410 21* ADDI 105x 
    Ping Blueprint  3-PW   Modus 130X 
    Ping Glide Forged   54 60 s400
    Cameron GSS 009 1.5 , sound slot , tungsten sole weights 


  • Popeye64Popeye64 Members Posts: 920 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Since you were fit for your driver, instead of guessing at longer clubs through the bag... continue your fitting.

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