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  • J13J13 Dad golf  15896WRX Points: 950Members Posts: 15,896
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    NLU Podcast, Episode 172: George Gankas on his instructing career, his technique, the cult following he’s garnered on Instagram, and how he ended up coaching some of the top players in the world. https://itunes.apple...11?mt=2…




    It was a great listen. George knows his stuff
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    I recently listened to the NLU podcast with GG and was fascinated by him. Went and watched a bunch of his old videos and am loving his teaching style and philosophies. I feel he talks to fast and overloads his students and viewers with information. It's great stuff, just need to re-watch a few times to get his messages across.
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    I've read most of this thread and watched a bunch of GG videos. I love his attitude, style and content. I don't expect it's anything I can put into practice, but it would be fun to try if I had more time for golf.



    I was wrapping up a lesson with my local pro yesterday and asked what he thinks about (my words) "these guys who teach keeping a lot of space between the legs on the way down." I didn't mention GG at all.



    He said:



    "I like to watch those guys, like George Gankas, I think it's really entertaining. I'm not sure the 50 and 60-year old members of this club can move like that, so it isn't all that relevant to what I'm doing."



    (and here's the interesting part): "It seems like what he's doing is designed to fix swings that come way too much in-to-out, which is almost no one that I see. I spend nearly all my time trying to help people swing more from the inside."



    I'm not sure this is a completely accurate understanding of GG's philosophy, but I thought it was interesting nonetheless. His words carried weight for me because he'd just had me hitting some excellent golf shots by my own standards.



    I think the internet is an incredible buffet of ideas, advice and opinions. It's really hard as the end user to sort through it all and decide which stuff is for me and which is for someone else. I really like the stuff I see from GG, but I also like Monte's stuff and Tyler Ferrell's and some other ideas that are more immediately applicable to what I'm working with and the amount of time I can spend on mechanics.
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  • RichieHuntRichieHunt  3886WRX Points: 526Members Posts: 3,886
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    me05501 wrote:


    I've read most of this thread and watched a bunch of GG videos. I love his attitude, style and content. I don't expect it's anything I can put into practice, but it would be fun to try if I had more time for golf.



    I was wrapping up a lesson with my local pro yesterday and asked what he thinks about (my words) "these guys who teach keeping a lot of space between the legs on the way down." I didn't mention GG at all.



    He said:



    "I like to watch those guys, like George Gankas, I think it's really entertaining. I'm not sure the 50 and 60-year old members of this club can move like that, so it isn't all that relevant to what I'm doing."



    (and here's the interesting part): "It seems like what he's doing is designed to fix swings that come way too much in-to-out, which is almost no one that I see. I spend nearly all my time trying to help people swing more from the inside."



    I'm not sure this is a completely accurate understanding of GG's philosophy, but I thought it was interesting nonetheless. His words carried weight for me because he'd just had me hitting some excellent golf shots by my own standards.



    I think the internet is an incredible buffet of ideas, advice and opinions. It's really hard as the end user to sort through it all and decide which stuff is for me and which is for someone else. I really like the stuff I see from GG, but I also like Monte's stuff and Tyler Ferrell's and some other ideas that are more immediately applicable to what I'm working with and the amount of time I can spend on mechanics.




    I don't know how he thinks that GG is geared more towards fixing a swing that is too in-to-out. Shallowing the shaft is more designed to help the out-to-in swing (path left) than anything.



    In fact, one of GG's favorite drills is to help players getting steep by creating an overly pronounced in-to-out swing to combat that out-to-in swing.



    When I got a lesson from GG, he just got done working with a gentleman in, what appeared to be his 60's and about a 10 handicap. The golfer was making some excellent progress. So I think it can work for mid level handicaps that are older. The question is if that particular golfer actually believes in themselves and is willing to put the time in to do it. Which is really the issue with just about every teacher working with older, mid-handicap players.



    But to come away watching GG work and say that it's designed more for the swing that goes too much inside-to-out is like watching the NBA and coming away with it being a game for little people with no jumping ability.















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    RichieHunt wrote:


    Just an update on my progress.

    <snip>

    I’m into month 5 of working with GG. I did an in-person lesson in late April and then 2 more online lessons. I plan on sending him another video pretty soon.

    <snip>

    RH




    I had a lesson set up with GG last year and ended up not being able to make it. Are you playing much? Any tournaments?
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  • chigolfer1chigolfer1  1216WRX Points: 288Members Posts: 1,216
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    me05501 wrote:


    I've read most of this thread and watched a bunch of GG videos. I love his attitude, style and content. I don't expect it's anything I can put into practice, but it would be fun to try if I had more time for golf.



    I was wrapping up a lesson with my local pro yesterday and asked what he thinks about (my words) "these guys who teach keeping a lot of space between the legs on the way down." I didn't mention GG at all.



    He said:



    "I like to watch those guys, like George Gankas, I think it's really entertaining. I'm not sure the 50 and 60-year old members of this club can move like that, so it isn't all that relevant to what I'm doing."



    (and here's the interesting part): "It seems like what he's doing is designed to fix swings that come way too much in-to-out, which is almost no one that I see. I spend nearly all my time trying to help people swing more from the inside."



    I'm not sure this is a completely accurate understanding of GG's philosophy, but I thought it was interesting nonetheless. His words carried weight for me because he'd just had me hitting some excellent golf shots by my own standards.



    I think the internet is an incredible buffet of ideas, advice and opinions. It's really hard as the end user to sort through it all and decide which stuff is for me and which is for someone else. I really like the stuff I see from GG, but I also like Monte's stuff and Tyler Ferrell's and some other ideas that are more immediately applicable to what I'm working with and the amount of time I can spend on mechanics.




    That's sort of the stereotype people like to use. And, it's the reason GG's instagram has multiple 70yo+ players swinging under his tutelage with a very nice body rotation/pivot. I mean, sure, if you're a physically limited 70yo you're probably not going to be swinging with that rotation but you're going to be making a lot of compensations just to hit the ball under anyone's teaching. If you're a reasonably fit person, anyone can swing under his tenets. The only thing that's "revolutionary" about it is that it is the opposite of a lot of things that have become the so-called modern swing in the age of video. Just for starters, instead of the butt stuck out ramrod straight back of today's swing, it's the old man set up. Guess what, many of the best players ever set up this way. And the comment about his teachings mostly being for players coming too much from the inside is just plain wrong. Not sure how your pro got that impression.
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  • RichieHuntRichieHunt  3886WRX Points: 526Members Posts: 3,886
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    Obee wrote:

    RichieHunt wrote:


    Just an update on my progress.

    <snip>

    I’m into month 5 of working with GG. I did an in-person lesson in late April and then 2 more online lessons. I plan on sending him another video pretty soon.

    <snip>

    RH




    I had a lesson set up with GG last year and ended up not being able to make it. Are you playing much? Any tournaments?




    I only get to play on weekends. My home course has a cash game every Saturday and I've played in probably half of those.



    Part of the issue for me is that my work load has increased between my regular job and working with Tour clients. Then I had some problems with my right foot that made it very painful to walk for any sort of distance and it requires surgery. And I have plantar fascitis in my left foot.



    So playing in a tournament where I have to walk the course is a no-go at this point. The good news is that the FSGA does have events that allow you to take a cart. I plan on playing some club events next year and if I have a desire to play the courses I will probably get on 1-2 FSGA events.











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  • me05501me05501  414WRX Points: 14Members Posts: 414
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    RichieHunt wrote:
    me05501 wrote:
    I've read most of this thread and watched a bunch of GG videos. I love his attitude, style and content. I don't expect it's anything I can put into practice, but it would be fun to try if I had more time for golf. I was wrapping up a lesson with my local pro yesterday and asked what he thinks about (my words) "these guys who teach keeping a lot of space between the legs on the way down." I didn't mention GG at all. He said: "I like to watch those guys, like George Gankas, I think it's really entertaining. I'm not sure the 50 and 60-year old members of this club can move like that, so it isn't all that relevant to what I'm doing." (and here's the interesting part): "It seems like what he's doing is designed to fix swings that come way too much in-to-out, which is almost no one that I see. I spend nearly all my time trying to help people swing more from the inside." I'm not sure this is a completely accurate understanding of GG's philosophy, but I thought it was interesting nonetheless. His words carried weight for me because he'd just had me hitting some excellent golf shots by my own standards. I think the internet is an incredible buffet of ideas, advice and opinions. It's really hard as the end user to sort through it all and decide which stuff is for me and which is for someone else. I really like the stuff I see from GG, but I also like Monte's stuff and Tyler Ferrell's and some other ideas that are more immediately applicable to what I'm working with and the amount of time I can spend on mechanics.
    I don't know how he thinks that GG is geared more towards fixing a swing that is too in-to-out. Shallowing the shaft is more designed to help the out-to-in swing (path left) than anything. In fact, one of GG's favorite drills is to help players getting steep by creating an overly pronounced in-to-out swing to combat that out-to-in swing. When I got a lesson from GG, he just got done working with a gentleman in, what appeared to be his 60's and about a 10 handicap. The golfer was making some excellent progress. So I think it can work for mid level handicaps that are older. The question is if that particular golfer actually believes in themselves and is willing to put the time in to do it. Which is really the issue with just about every teacher working with older, mid-handicap players. But to come away watching GG work and say that it's designed more for the swing that goes too much inside-to-out is like watching the NBA and coming away with it being a game for little people with no jumping ability. RH
    chigolfer1 wrote:
    me05501 wrote:
    I've read most of this thread and watched a bunch of GG videos. I love his attitude, style and content. I don't expect it's anything I can put into practice, but it would be fun to try if I had more time for golf. I was wrapping up a lesson with my local pro yesterday and asked what he thinks about (my words) "these guys who teach keeping a lot of space between the legs on the way down." I didn't mention GG at all. He said: "I like to watch those guys, like George Gankas, I think it's really entertaining. I'm not sure the 50 and 60-year old members of this club can move like that, so it isn't all that relevant to what I'm doing." (and here's the interesting part): "It seems like what he's doing is designed to fix swings that come way too much in-to-out, which is almost no one that I see. I spend nearly all my time trying to help people swing more from the inside." I'm not sure this is a completely accurate understanding of GG's philosophy, but I thought it was interesting nonetheless. His words carried weight for me because he'd just had me hitting some excellent golf shots by my own standards. I think the internet is an incredible buffet of ideas, advice and opinions. It's really hard as the end user to sort through it all and decide which stuff is for me and which is for someone else. I really like the stuff I see from GG, but I also like Monte's stuff and Tyler Ferrell's and some other ideas that are more immediately applicable to what I'm working with and the amount of time I can spend on mechanics.
    That's sort of the stereotype people like to use. And, it's the reason GG's instagram has multiple 70yo+ players swinging under his tutelage with a very nice body rotation/pivot. I mean, sure, if you're a physically limited 70yo you're probably not going to be swinging with that rotation but you're going to be making a lot of compensations just to hit the ball under anyone's teaching. If you're a reasonably fit person, anyone can swing under his tenets. The only thing that's "revolutionary" about it is that it is the opposite of a lot of things that have become the so-called modern swing in the age of video. Just for starters, instead of the butt stuck out ramrod straight back of today's swing, it's the old man set up. Guess what, many of the best players ever set up this way. And the comment about his teachings mostly being for players coming too much from the inside is just plain wrong. Not sure how your pro got that impression.




    I'm not sure how he got that impression either. I don't know if he's watched one video or all of them. But it was interesting to me when I brought up the idea of creating space between the legs as a part of the transition, he knew immediately what I was talking about and brought out George's name right away.



    I guess the point I wanted to make was that after a lot of exposure to GG's stuff, I totally respect and enjoy his teaching, but I don't think I can, or necessarily need to, adopt any of it at this point in my life. I don't think I can rebuild my swing from the ground up while maintaining my career, family life and other hobbies. That's a "me" thing.



    OTOH there are ideas from Monte and Tyler Ferrell (and my pro) that can be applied right away to what I'm already doing and have an immediate positive impact. I plan to stay with that direction.
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  • sheldonjhackersheldonjhacker  3743WRX Points: 162Members Posts: 3,743
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    Anyone see GG once or twice and had long-term success ? Asking for a friend who lives in NYC. image/bye.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':wave:' />
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  • chigolfer1chigolfer1  1216WRX Points: 288Members Posts: 1,216
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    me05501 wrote:

    RichieHunt wrote:
    me05501 wrote:
    I've read most of this thread and watched a bunch of GG videos. I love his attitude, style and content. I don't expect it's anything I can put into practice, but it would be fun to try if I had more time for golf. I was wrapping up a lesson with my local pro yesterday and asked what he thinks about (my words) "these guys who teach keeping a lot of space between the legs on the way down." I didn't mention GG at all. He said: "I like to watch those guys, like George Gankas, I think it's really entertaining. I'm not sure the 50 and 60-year old members of this club can move like that, so it isn't all that relevant to what I'm doing." (and here's the interesting part): "It seems like what he's doing is designed to fix swings that come way too much in-to-out, which is almost no one that I see. I spend nearly all my time trying to help people swing more from the inside." I'm not sure this is a completely accurate understanding of GG's philosophy, but I thought it was interesting nonetheless. His words carried weight for me because he'd just had me hitting some excellent golf shots by my own standards. I think the internet is an incredible buffet of ideas, advice and opinions. It's really hard as the end user to sort through it all and decide which stuff is for me and which is for someone else. I really like the stuff I see from GG, but I also like Monte's stuff and Tyler Ferrell's and some other ideas that are more immediately applicable to what I'm working with and the amount of time I can spend on mechanics.
    I don't know how he thinks that GG is geared more towards fixing a swing that is too in-to-out. Shallowing the shaft is more designed to help the out-to-in swing (path left) than anything. In fact, one of GG's favorite drills is to help players getting steep by creating an overly pronounced in-to-out swing to combat that out-to-in swing. When I got a lesson from GG, he just got done working with a gentleman in, what appeared to be his 60's and about a 10 handicap. The golfer was making some excellent progress. So I think it can work for mid level handicaps that are older. The question is if that particular golfer actually believes in themselves and is willing to put the time in to do it. Which is really the issue with just about every teacher working with older, mid-handicap players. But to come away watching GG work and say that it's designed more for the swing that goes too much inside-to-out is like watching the NBA and coming away with it being a game for little people with no jumping ability. RH
    chigolfer1 wrote:
    me05501 wrote:
    I've read most of this thread and watched a bunch of GG videos. I love his attitude, style and content. I don't expect it's anything I can put into practice, but it would be fun to try if I had more time for golf. I was wrapping up a lesson with my local pro yesterday and asked what he thinks about (my words) "these guys who teach keeping a lot of space between the legs on the way down." I didn't mention GG at all. He said: "I like to watch those guys, like George Gankas, I think it's really entertaining. I'm not sure the 50 and 60-year old members of this club can move like that, so it isn't all that relevant to what I'm doing." (and here's the interesting part): "It seems like what he's doing is designed to fix swings that come way too much in-to-out, which is almost no one that I see. I spend nearly all my time trying to help people swing more from the inside." I'm not sure this is a completely accurate understanding of GG's philosophy, but I thought it was interesting nonetheless. His words carried weight for me because he'd just had me hitting some excellent golf shots by my own standards. I think the internet is an incredible buffet of ideas, advice and opinions. It's really hard as the end user to sort through it all and decide which stuff is for me and which is for someone else. I really like the stuff I see from GG, but I also like Monte's stuff and Tyler Ferrell's and some other ideas that are more immediately applicable to what I'm working with and the amount of time I can spend on mechanics.
    That's sort of the stereotype people like to use. And, it's the reason GG's instagram has multiple 70yo+ players swinging under his tutelage with a very nice body rotation/pivot. I mean, sure, if you're a physically limited 70yo you're probably not going to be swinging with that rotation but you're going to be making a lot of compensations just to hit the ball under anyone's teaching. If you're a reasonably fit person, anyone can swing under his tenets. The only thing that's "revolutionary" about it is that it is the opposite of a lot of things that have become the so-called modern swing in the age of video. Just for starters, instead of the butt stuck out ramrod straight back of today's swing, it's the old man set up. Guess what, many of the best players ever set up this way. And the comment about his teachings mostly being for players coming too much from the inside is just plain wrong. Not sure how your pro got that impression.




    I'm not sure how he got that impression either. I don't know if he's watched one video or all of them. But it was interesting to me when I brought up the idea of creating space between the legs as a part of the transition, he knew immediately what I was talking about and brought out George's name right away.



    I guess the point I wanted to make was that after a lot of exposure to GG's stuff, I totally respect and enjoy his teaching, but I don't think I can, or necessarily need to, adopt any of it at this point in my life. I don't think I can rebuild my swing from the ground up while maintaining my career, family life and other hobbies. That's a "me" thing.



    OTOH there are ideas from Monte and Tyler Ferrell (and my pro) that can be applied right away to what I'm already doing and have an immediate positive impact. I plan to stay with that direction.




    Makes sense. I do think people tend to overemphasize this whole squat pivot thing in the sense that what GG shows in slow motion is obviously a huge exaggeration drill. All he's trying to do is prevent the right hip and knee from immediately spinning out after transition.
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  • ObeeObee  3982WRX Points: 748ClubWRX Posts: 3,982
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    RichieHunt wrote:

    Obee wrote:

    RichieHunt wrote:


    Just an update on my progress.

    <snip>

    I’m into month 5 of working with GG. I did an in-person lesson in late April and then 2 more online lessons. I plan on sending him another video pretty soon.

    <snip>

    RH




    I had a lesson set up with GG last year and ended up not being able to make it. Are you playing much? Any tournaments?




    I only get to play on weekends. My home course has a cash game every Saturday and I've played in probably half of those.



    Part of the issue for me is that my work load has increased between my regular job and working with Tour clients. Then I had some problems with my right foot that made it very painful to walk for any sort of distance and it requires surgery. And I have plantar fascitis in my left foot.



    So playing in a tournament where I have to walk the course is a no-go at this point. The good news is that the FSGA does have events that allow you to take a cart. I plan on playing some club events next year and if I have a desire to play the courses I will probably get on 1-2 FSGA events.



    RH




    Would love you to join the "Scratch Tournament" thread if you are so inclined! :-)
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    Thought about heading out there in Feb to see George, he's so pricey now so not sure, was going to go to Vegas and drive to see him for a day
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    Why not just see Jake Gilmer in Vegas?
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    Krt22 wrote:


    Why not just see Jake Gilmer in Vegas?


    I like his videos on instagram...not sure his pricing compared to GG but Jake seems like a great teacher!!
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    So far I have worked on nothing but freezers.




    What are freezers?
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  • nfbandonnfbandon  98WRX Points: 50Members Posts: 98
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    Freezers are when you take it to the top and pause and then hit it. GG's students can pause for several seconds and then hit a great shot. Freezers are actually nothing new. Butch Harmon had Tiger hit thousands of freezers every day before Tiger had that great 2000 season. They teach proper sequence. Great drill.



    Here is one:



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    Grady, do you feel like your transition and downswing is as shallow as it was when you were working with John Erickson? Just curious. Also, what do you feel the differences from the swing that GG is teaching you versus JE?
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    Butch Harmon had Tiger hit thousands of freezers every day before Tiger had that great 2000 season.




    Thank you. Familiar with that drill but did not know they were called that. I remember watching Tiger and Butch on an old Peter Kessler show and Tiger talking on how he hated those drills.
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  • nfbandonnfbandon  98WRX Points: 50Members Posts: 98
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    Chiva I am not a GG student. I seen many of his videos, and his success is remarkable. I can't say that I am trying to master his method. I have found his freezer drill helpful. Having said that, you are right I am no longer working in the ABS program. I have eliminated the backswing forearm rotation John advocates, the level shoulder turn he advocates (which caused a big move off the ball) and am swinging on a more upright plane with more width and using standard lies rather than flat lie angles. I enjoyed ABS and learned a lot. The changes I have made allow me to hit the ball further and continue to play from the back tees as I approach 60.
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    nfbandon wrote:


    Chiva I am not a GG student. I seen many of his videos, and his success is remarkable. I can't say that I am trying to master his method. I have found his freezer drill helpful. Having said that, you are right I am no longer working in the ABS program. I have eliminated the backswing forearm rotation John advocates, the level shoulder turn he advocates (which caused a big move off the ball) and am swinging on a more upright plane with more width and using standard lies rather than flat lie angles. I enjoyed ABS and learned a lot. The changes I have made allow me to hit the ball further and continue to play from the back tees as I approach 60.






    Thanks. I just enjoyed learning about the golf swing from different perspectives. It's nice to hear from other people about different methods they have tried. Helps me better figure out what will work best for me long-term. I do like old blades and persimmon woods. I have quite the collection! With that being said, I play all modern stuff. Lol.
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    I was watching one of his videos and saw the "box drill" the one where you put something under your back foot and swing. The video never explained what he was trying to achieve. Could someone explain because this drill looks very interesting.
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    E0X wrote:


    I was watching one of his videos and saw the "box drill" the one where you put something under your back foot and swing. The video never explained what he was trying to achieve. Could someone explain because this drill looks very interesting.




    Teaches you not to push off the trail foot (too early). Wants you to “grip the ground” feeling clockwise rotational pressure.
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  • MPStratMPStrat  1046WRX Points: 115Members Posts: 1,046
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    GG player Johnny Ruiz on swing catalyst



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  • Santiago GolfSantiago Golf I Strive to make you Better  5081WRX Points: 183Members Posts: 5,081
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    MPStrat wrote:


    GG player Johnny Ruiz on swing catalyst








    Very cool video
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    Driver: Taylormade M2 '17 10.5*; Accura Tour Z Pink, 85 M5 (285, can get one or two to carry 300+ if needed)
    Fairway: Taylormade Aeroburner TP 15*; Diamana Blueboard 72x (255)
    LOOKING FOR A 7 Wood (probably gunna be 230-235 club)
    Irons: Nike Vapor Pro Combo 4-AW; Aldila VS Proto "By You" 100x
    4-5; 38", 61* lie, 5 iron weight (220, 210) 6-8; 37", 62* lie, 8 iron weight (195, 180, 165) 9-AW; 36", 63* lie (150, 130, 110)
    S Wedge: Scratch 1018 DS 57*; Dynamic Gold S400 Onyx; 35.5", 63.5* lie (85): I HARDLY USE IT IN THE BUNKER
    L Wedge: Maltby Third Wedge (Custom Grind) 62*; Dynamic Gold S400 Onyx; 35", 64* lie: THIS IS MY BUNKER CLUB, HARDLY USE FROM OUTSIDE 40 YARDS!!
    Putter: Scotty Cameron Studio Design #5 MB, YES! Tour Tracey (for practice only)
    Ball: Vice Pro
    Grip: Super Stroke S-Tech Cord (Woods +6 wraps, Irons and wedges +8 wraps)
  • RichieHuntRichieHunt  3886WRX Points: 526Members Posts: 3,886
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    Just got back an online lesson from GG. Swing is much improved, It usually takes about 1 week from the time I send a video to him for him to get back to me.



    In that time, I started to fool with my address position and felt that my shoulders were too open at address. When I focused on that I was hitting the ball much better. What's funny is that is one of the first things GG addressed. He says it is due to me having negative tilt of the spine at address which I never considered before. It causes a chain reaction of not getting enough shoulder turn in the backswing along with the hands not getting deep enough at p4. Both things I saw, but I didn't consider the address position as being the culprit.



    I didn't seen that my left hand grip got a bit weak. I haven't had an issue with a weak left hand grip in years.



    Anyway, played the ca$h game at my club on Saturday before GG got back to me. Shot 73 (+1), but two bad swings cost me dearly. I also didn't make much in the way of putts. I think the good news about this is that I think I'm starting to hit the home stretch of really getting close to where I want my swing to be.









    RH
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  • ObeeObee  3982WRX Points: 748ClubWRX Posts: 3,982
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    Gankas student Johnny Ruiz is at second stage Q-School at my club, Bear Creek right now. At least I think it's the same guy. So far, he's not going to make it. 1-under through 2 rounds. Cut line (top 18 and ties) is currently -3. Norman Xiong and Jamie Sadlowski also in the field. Both Sadlowski and Xiong are inside the cut line.



    Scores, etc.: https://pgatq.bluegolf.com/bluegolf/pgatq18/event/pgatq1822/contest/1/leaderboard.htm
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    PING G400 Max - Tour 65 S
    Callaway Rogue 15* 3W
    Titleist H1 19* Diamana S+ Blue 70hy
    Titleist H1 23* Diamana S+ Blue 70hy
    Adams Idea Tech V4 5H 25* ProLaunch Blue 75 HY
    Adams Idea Tech V4 6H 28* ProLaunch Blue 75 HY
    Adams Idea Tech V4 7H 32* ProLaunch Blue 75 HY
    Titleist AP2 716 8i 37* KBS Tour S
    Titleist AP2 716 9i 42* KBS Tour S
    Don Wood Custom Grind 47* PW
    Don Wood Custom Grind 51* GW
    Titleist "Vokey Design" 56* K Grind
    Mizuno S18 60/7 LW
    Odyssey Works Versa Tank 1W (bent to 78.5*)
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  • Krt22Krt22 East Bay 8248WRX Points: 2,018Members Posts: 8,248
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    Yep, same Johnny Ruiz
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  • theboypinoytheboypinoy  2095WRX Points: 145Members Posts: 2,095
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    Obee wrote:


    Gankas student Johnny Ruiz is at second stage Q-School at my club, Bear Creek right now. At least I think it's the same guy. So far, he's not going to make it. 1-under through 2 rounds. Cut line (top 18 and ties) is currently -3. Norman Xiong and Jamie Sadlowski also in the field. Both Sadlowski and Xiong are inside the cut line.



    Scores, etc.: https://pgatq.bluego...leaderboard.htm




    Luckily he's got two days left to make up the ground. Who else does Gankas have in the second stage? I know there's got to be more than one



    Following Q School is always fun image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />
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  •  Dave D Dave D  4032WRX Points: 188Members Posts: 4,032
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    Obee wrote:


    Gankas student Johnny Ruiz is at second stage Q-School at my club, Bear Creek right now. At least I think it's the same guy. So far, he's not going to make it. 1-under through 2 rounds. Cut line (top 18 and ties) is currently -3. Norman Xiong and Jamie Sadlowski also in the field. Both Sadlowski and Xiong are inside the cut line.



    Scores, etc.: https://pgatq.bluego...leaderboard.htm




    That Norman Xiong has a bright future I think
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    Driver: Taylormade M2 10.5* w/ Hzrdus Black 6.0 62g
    3 Wood: Callaway Rogue Sub Zero 15* w/ Hzrdus Yellow 6.5 76g
    3 iron: Srixon ZU85 20* w/ Nippon Modus 120x

    4-PW: Callaway X Forged '13 w/ Project X Pxi 6.0
    Wedges: Vokey SM7 50F, 54S & 60L - DG wedge flex
    Putter: Odyssey Stroke Lab #7 34" w/ P2 Aware Tour

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  • er1cchandlerer1cchandler Vancouver, Canada 254WRX Points: 65Members Posts: 254
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    Here's the latest from AMG on pressure at P5




    must be in response to George's last post showing 70% trail foot pressure
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    TM M6 9* Fujukura Pro 2.0 Tour Spec 6x
    TM M6 18* Fujukura Pro 2.0 Tour Spec 8x
    Titleist u500 3i (21) Tensei White 100x
    Titleist T100 4-PW (1
    weak) Dynamic Gold TI X100 (ss)
    Vokey 5108 F Grind
    Vokey 55
    10 S Grind
    Vokey 61*08 M Grind
    Cameron Futura X5 Flow neck 35” / Odyssey White Hot Pro #3 (2nd gen) 35”

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