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Can someone post a picture of the toe hang?

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Here’s the hang...

 

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Plus one more in the bright sun...I still love this putter!

 

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TP Hydroblast Chaska
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I practically had to beg the PING rep to get one in our store They're just not stocked anywhere. Great putter though! I love mine!

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One of my local retailers finally got one of these in a few days ago. Honestly, I was a little underwhelmed. I am a PING guy and the TR grooves are legit IMHO but this putter felt harshly firm to me. I also generally prefer a milled face to an insert however I think that the Sigma G Tyne H has a better feel and roll. I am not mad about the Tyne H having a headweight of 370g but feel and roll wise, I think it is the best toe hang mallet out there right now and it is back in my rotation.

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One of my local retailers finally got one of these in a few days ago. Honestly, I was a little underwhelmed. I am a PING guy and the TR grooves are legit IMHO but this putter felt harshly firm to me. I also generally prefer a milled face to an insert however I think that the Sigma G Tyne H has a better feel and roll. I am not mad about the Tyne H having a headweight of 370g but feel and roll wise, I think it is the best toe hang mallet out there right now and it is back in my rotation.

 

I have the complete opposite opinion. I think the Tyne is mushy and unresponsive. Everything about the Vault Craz-E is better, IMO. Better lines, better feel, better balance, etc. Each to their own, however!

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Stunning looking putter, that style / design is solid & has stood the test of time.

 

How long has it been since the first iteration of the Craz-E? 10+ years?

 

Enjoy it, it's a keeper.

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  • 3 weeks later...

One month update: I can confidently say that it has made me a better putter. My avg putts per round (10 rounds this month) are down almost 2 strokes (1.9 to be exact). It is point and shoot for me. My misses are misreads, more than mishits. For a mid-single hcp player, this putter is a weapon. Finish holds up great. There is no fading, scratching, ball marks, etc from gaming it. Still going strong!

Titleist TSr2 w/ HZRDUS Smoke

Cobra BioCell+ 3W Aldila Tour Green

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Wilson Staff C200 w/ KBS 115’s
Cleveland DSG 52 & 58
TP Hydroblast Chaska
...all subject to “adjustment” per WRX societal norms...

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Awesome! I love your connection with your new putter, that is the key. Once you connect it's all over for the competition. :D

 

My misses are misreads, more than mishits.

 

Every credible putting expert I know of says this is full success. Doesn't matter how many you sink, if you hit your reads you are winning. The reads will grow more accurate over time, i.e. "dial in", the key is being able to hit them. Kudos man, that's just awesome.

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Man, this thing is a mythical beast. Tried to order one from Ping and being told mid November in stealth and December on slate. Anyone know where these are readily available / in stock?

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I think tgw.com has them but they might ship from Ping. I believe when I looked it said 5-10 business days.

Titleist TSR3 9* Ventus Blue TR 6X 45.25"
Callaway Paradym 15* HZRDUS Black Gen 4 70g 6.0

Callaway Apex UW 19* HZRDUS Black Gen 4 70g 6.0

Srixon ZX7 4-PW Nippon Modus 3 Tour 120S
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My local course has one painted in stealth with black shaft but none of the ones with black shafts have copper weights. All of those have black weights. Is that normal?

 

I do think these head covers are lacking.

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  • 3 months later...

I also finally got mine in from PING , took 4 months to get here because I wanted a different hosel for a sbst stroke and a stealth shaft

As a lefty PING nut, that putter is so awesome!!! Great choice and I’m happy it worked out!!!

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PING VALOR CB 35"

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"Anyone else have one of these? Thoughts?"

 

 

 

Please excuse the late post but as a 11 year Craz-E H user and aficionado I have some thoughts concerning why is this putter could be useful for someone. Essentially I think it comes down to the combination of features

 

#1 Mallets are going to give you better misses.

In this case the head weight is actually fairly heavy at 365 grams

 

#2 The alignment aid actually works.

 

A long single line. Not sure where I read that but I've read it and probs from Ping somewhere none the less I agree a long single line is good for alignment high contrast white on black even better.

 

 

four-new-putters-alignment.jpg

 

 

 

#3 The hosel not sure of the term? but the Craz-E H is a mallet that steers like a blade. So for those of us who grew up using heal and toe weight blades the Craz-e H is very similar to what we've putted with our entire lives so it allows us to draw those experiences.

 

#4 The grooves offer some help on distance control.

 

#5 Add in the fact that this putter design is well over 10 years old and has won craz-E $$$ on tour for Kenny Perry and a few others we have a design that is familar just so happens to work, is nostalgic and new both at the same time a very rare combination but good especially when the asking price is relatively high.

 

I'd imagine:

  • Short putts are easier to see:
  • Medium length ones you may luck in more often
  • Long putts ought to be slightly closer.

I don't know if the weights being so far back actually add to the MOI or performance in any way but I'd bet they do.

 

It looks GREAT while doing all of the above and those are all reasons that some will find more "performance" from this one putter.

 

Last but far from least you can pick up the ball off of the green with it!

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Update: I still LOVE this putter. But I did change it...for a slate one. I had never seen the slate version anywhere. When I saw it, I had to have it. This is one heck of a flat-stick!

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Cobra BioCell+ 3W Aldila Tour Green

Cally Razr Hawk 7W Aldila Tour Green

Wilson Staff C200 w/ KBS 115’s
Cleveland DSG 52 & 58
TP Hydroblast Chaska
...all subject to “adjustment” per WRX societal norms...

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That slate looks incredible!

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> @Twin2L said:

> That slate looks incredible!

 

Thank you. It is an upgrade in looks, IMO. Amazing roll!

 

 

Titleist TSr2 w/ HZRDUS Smoke

Cobra BioCell+ 3W Aldila Tour Green

Cally Razr Hawk 7W Aldila Tour Green

Wilson Staff C200 w/ KBS 115’s
Cleveland DSG 52 & 58
TP Hydroblast Chaska
...all subject to “adjustment” per WRX societal norms...

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> @Jaygolf37 said:

> Update: I still LOVE this putter. But I did change it...for a slate one. I had never seen the slate version anywhere. When I saw it, I had to have it. This is one heck of a flat-stick!

> y2orhjzhbdrh.jpeg

> rwnu0wb92d2l.jpeg

>

 

That's EXACTLY how to do it. Play a putter (& driver) that excite you! That makes every day on the course better. And the slate looks incredible too.

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> @JAMH03 said:

> > @Jaygolf37 said:

> > Update: I still LOVE this putter. But I did change it...for a slate one. I had never seen the slate version anywhere. When I saw it, I had to have it. This is one heck of a flat-stick!

> > y2orhjzhbdrh.jpeg

> > rwnu0wb92d2l.jpeg

> >

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> That's EXACTLY how to do it. Play a putter (& driver) that excite you! That makes every day on the course better. And the slate looks incredible too.

 

It’s a crazy feeling when you get there. My distance and line are marksman-like with this putter. Misses are misreads. It has amazing feel and sound as well.

 

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Titleist TSr2 w/ HZRDUS Smoke

Cobra BioCell+ 3W Aldila Tour Green

Cally Razr Hawk 7W Aldila Tour Green

Wilson Staff C200 w/ KBS 115’s
Cleveland DSG 52 & 58
TP Hydroblast Chaska
...all subject to “adjustment” per WRX societal norms...

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  • 5 months later...

 

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740ACOEYWG4L.jpeg2nd season update: the finish is durable, folks. I’ve used the headcover the whole time, and there are no marks. And it is still a weapon. Love the feel. Love the alignment. Love the balance. Love the distance control (consistency). I highly recommend one if you can find it!

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Cally Razr Hawk 7W Aldila Tour Green

Wilson Staff C200 w/ KBS 115’s
Cleveland DSG 52 & 58
TP Hydroblast Chaska
...all subject to “adjustment” per WRX societal norms...

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