Mizuno 2019

[tbone18]

Is there a release date yet?

don't remember exact date but it will be in February.

[evoviiiyou]

Could this driver possibly be better than my M4??? I hope so!

 

This is my thoughts exactly...can’t wait to see

[Woodie]

I had the chance to hit both new drivers. In setup position both look the same. They look and feel awesome! Like a Subzero or G400 LST. Very nice muted sound! The ST190 had a little more draw bias. The ST190G was fade biased for me. In the neutral setup I could not turn it over, which was easy with the ST190.

The non adjustable 3 wood was easy to hit of the deck. But the face of the fairwaywood looked very square and straight, not much bulge in it, which I have to get used to... I hope the TourSpoon will look a little more round - Just like the 180 TourSpoon BUT in black - I hope so :-)

I hit all of the new clubs with the Atmos TourSpec black 6s.

I can not wait until it comes to the retail market in february....

[JourdanM]

I had the chance to hit both new drivers. In setup position both look the same. They look and feel awesome! Like a Subzero or G400 LST. Very nice muted sound! The ST190 had a little more draw bias. The ST190G was fade biased for me. In the neutral setup I could not turn it over, which was easy with the ST190.

The non adjustable 3 wood was easy to hit of the deck. But the face of the fairwaywood looked very square and straight, not much bulge in it, which I have to get used to... I hope the TourSpoon will look a little more round - Just like the 180 TourSpoon BUT in black - I hope so :-)

I hit all of the new clubs with the Atmos TourSpec black 6s.

I can not wait until it comes to the retail market in february....

is the st190 real low spin like the st180? I could use a little bit of spin...

[starsail85]

I had the chance to hit both new drivers. In setup position both look the same. They look and feel awesome! Like a Subzero or G400 LST. Very nice muted sound! The ST190 had a little more draw bias. The ST190G was fade biased for me. In the neutral setup I could not turn it over, which was easy with the ST190.

The non adjustable 3 wood was easy to hit of the deck. But the face of the fairwaywood looked very square and straight, not much bulge in it, which I have to get used to... I hope the TourSpoon will look a little more round - Just like the 180 TourSpoon BUT in black - I hope so :-)

I hit all of the new clubs with the Atmos TourSpec black 6s.

I can not wait until it comes to the retail market in february....

is the st190 real low spin like the st180? I could use a little bit of spin...

 

Try alittle more loft with the set up

[Woodie]

I had the chance to hit both new drivers. In setup position both look the same. They look and feel awesome! Like a Subzero or G400 LST. Very nice muted sound! The ST190 had a little more draw bias. The ST190G was fade biased for me. In the neutral setup I could not turn it over, which was easy with the ST190.

The non adjustable 3 wood was easy to hit of the deck. But the face of the fairwaywood looked very square and straight, not much bulge in it, which I have to get used to... I hope the TourSpoon will look a little more round - Just like the 180 TourSpoon BUT in black - I hope so :-)

I hit all of the new clubs with the Atmos TourSpec black 6s.

I can not wait until it comes to the retail market in february....

is the st190 real low spin like the st180? I could use a little bit of spin...

 

I didn't check with a Launchmonitor, but the 190 is definately a low spin driver. But it is more constant over the face than the 180.

[gcp07]

I had the chance to hit both new drivers. In setup position both look the same. They look and feel awesome! Like a Subzero or G400 LST. Very nice muted sound! The ST190 had a little more draw bias. The ST190G was fade biased for me. In the neutral setup I could not turn it over, which was easy with the ST190.

The non adjustable 3 wood was easy to hit of the deck. But the face of the fairwaywood looked very square and straight, not much bulge in it, which I have to get used to... I hope the TourSpoon will look a little more round - Just like the 180 TourSpoon BUT in black - I hope so :-)

I hit all of the new clubs with the Atmos TourSpec black 6s.

I can not wait until it comes to the retail market in february....

Does the 3 wood have the same carbon look at the driver?

[Woodie]

I had the chance to hit both new drivers. In setup position both look the same. They look and feel awesome! Like a Subzero or G400 LST. Very nice muted sound! The ST190 had a little more draw bias. The ST190G was fade biased for me. In the neutral setup I could not turn it over, which was easy with the ST190.

The non adjustable 3 wood was easy to hit of the deck. But the face of the fairwaywood looked very square and straight, not much bulge in it, which I have to get used to... I hope the TourSpoon will look a little more round - Just like the 180 TourSpoon BUT in black - I hope so :-)

I hit all of the new clubs with the Atmos TourSpec black 6s.

I can not wait until it comes to the retail market in february....

Does the 3 wood have the same carbon look at the driver?

 

Yes, same carbon look at the rear side of the crown.

[starsail85]

Do we know what is happening with the t7 wedge and any replacement for 2019 ?

[evoviiiyou]

I had the chance to hit both new drivers. In setup position both look the same. They look and feel awesome! Like a Subzero or G400 LST. Very nice muted sound! The ST190 had a little more draw bias. The ST190G was fade biased for me. In the neutral setup I could not turn it over, which was easy with the ST190.

The non adjustable 3 wood was easy to hit of the deck. But the face of the fairwaywood looked very square and straight, not much bulge in it, which I have to get used to... I hope the TourSpoon will look a little more round - Just like the 180 TourSpoon BUT in black - I hope so :-)

I hit all of the new clubs with the Atmos TourSpec black 6s.

I can not wait until it comes to the retail market in february....

Does the 3 wood have the same carbon look at the driver?

 

Yes, same carbon look at the rear side of the crown.

 

Game over

[glfrgy22]

I had the chance to hit both new drivers. In setup position both look the same. They look and feel awesome! Like a Subzero or G400 LST. Very nice muted sound! The ST190 had a little more draw bias. The ST190G was fade biased for me. In the neutral setup I could not turn it over, which was easy with the ST190.

The non adjustable 3 wood was easy to hit of the deck. But the face of the fairwaywood looked very square and straight, not much bulge in it, which I have to get used to... I hope the TourSpoon will look a little more round - Just like the 180 TourSpoon BUT in black - I hope so :-)

I hit all of the new clubs with the Atmos TourSpec black 6s.

I can not wait until it comes to the retail market in february....

is the st190 real low spin like the st180? I could use a little bit of spin...

 

The ST190 now has a little more weight low and back so the launch and spin has come up. The ST190G is now the spin killer. You will love the ST190!

[DBake]

Hope the Hot Metal Pro's are the same loft numbers to match the Tours.

[JourdanM]

Hope the Hot Metal Pro's are the same loft numbers to match the Tours.

I’d guess in between hot metal and the forged ?

 

I had the chance to hit both new drivers. In setup position both look the same. They look and feel awesome! Like a Subzero or G400 LST. Very nice muted sound! The ST190 had a little more draw bias. The ST190G was fade biased for me. In the neutral setup I could not turn it over, which was easy with the ST190.

The non adjustable 3 wood was easy to hit of the deck. But the face of the fairwaywood looked very square and straight, not much bulge in it, which I have to get used to... I hope the TourSpoon will look a little more round - Just like the 180 TourSpoon BUT in black - I hope so :-)

I hit all of the new clubs with the Atmos TourSpec black 6s.

I can not wait until it comes to the retail market in february....

is the st190 real low spin like the st180? I could use a little bit of spin...

 

The ST190 now has a little more weight low and back so the launch and spin has come up. The ST190G is now the spin killer. You will love the ST190!

can’t wait to try it

[jetmech879]

Hope the Hot Metal Pro's are the same loft numbers to match the Tours.

 

I read in another thread that the pro would only be offered in 4-7 iron. That seems pointless to me. I'm really hoping it was bad info.

[J13]

Hope the Hot Metal Pro's are the same loft numbers to match the Tours.

 

I read in another thread that the pro would only be offered in 4-7 iron. That seems pointless to me. I'm really hoping it was bad info.

 

That would be bizarre

[Warrick]

Hope the Hot Metal Pro's are the same loft numbers to match the Tours.

 

I read in another thread that the pro would only be offered in 4-7 iron. That seems pointless to me. I'm really hoping it was bad info.

 

 

I thought that reference was the JPX Fli-Hi.....

[jetmech879]

Hope the Hot Metal Pro's are the same loft numbers to match the Tours.

 

I read in another thread that the pro would only be offered in 4-7 iron. That seems pointless to me. I'm really hoping it was bad info.

 

 

I thought that reference was the JPX Fli-Hi.....

 

You are correct. It was the JPX fli-hi. Is there 2 coming out in February? A fli-hi and pro model? Mizuno is confusing the day lights out of me with these staggered releases! Haha!

[Warrick]

Hot Metal Pro iron set and JPX Fli-Hi long irons, then woods.

 

I have no idea what else heard wedges will be later in the year.

[starsail85]

I wouldn’t mind some info on the wedges , if they are not going to release a t7 replacement before the new season starts I’d like to get some more t7 new whilst they still exist

[deep18]

So I was really looking forward to seeing a new T series wedge sometime this winter/next spring and unfortunately it looks like it’s not happening.....

 

Maybe Mizuno is bringing something out around the PGA show and they just want to keep it quiet until then but it sounds like no replacement until next fall.

[dosman]

I wouldn't mind some info on the wedges , if they are not going to release a t7 replacement before the new season starts I'd like to get some more t7 new whilst they still exist

You can see in my sig that I own five T7s. Formerly scratch, I switched from CG10 and Vokey (all great clubs, but cast) two years ago. I wanted forged after being floored by the feel of the 900Ts (switched out of CG2s).

 

I don't find the Boron in the steel makes them feel any harder than the 900Ts, so I disagree with Rick Shiels on that. The variety of offerings (and knowing it would be for a limited time) in the T7 line is why I went with a large selection. Little kid in a candy store, or something.

 

The leading edge shapes, sole depths and grinds are unique to each club. The 56-14 is one I never would have bought without a suggestion from a friend. The thin sole's trailing edge is just 1/2" back. Tried to hit it fat off tight lies (my least favorite) and couldn't do it. It didn't dig because the bounce saved it. That club is designed for sand. Pleasantly surprised for sure.

 

There is a site that is listing the entire T7 line of 12 for $70/ea (that's with a discount on orders of $99+). I don't know that posting a link here is appropriate, but it's easy to find. Right after this post, I'm going there to see about a couple more. Don't see how you could go wrong with T7s.

 

Don't know anything on the S18s, currently at $150. Sounds as if they will be where the T7s are now this time next year.

[chuonglhuynh]

Currently playing the Mizuno MP-18 MMC from 3-PW with NS Pro 950 shafts. It’s such a good setup...

 

My 2nd Mizuno set and feel like I’m getting a bang for the buck compared to my Miuras...

[Warrick]

I was told a while back that most likely the next T series wedge will be released with next MP series.

 

The T7 released with the JPX 900 series, but guessing they may want Tseries with MP and S series with JPX for future release cycles.

[deep18]

I was told a while back that most likely the next T series wedge will be released with next MP series.

 

The T7 released with the JPX 900 series, but guessing they may want Tseries with MP and S series with JPX for future release cycles.

 

Completely makes sense running those release cycles together, I’m just surprised they dumped the T7s so far in advance.

[SUMM1T]

The replacement for T series wedge will be in September 2019.

[MKPAPA]

Yo, so maybe i've been under a rock, but i just noticed that mizuno released a japan only Mizuno Pro 319. Is this the equivalent of the mp18 split cavity? If not then my interest is p-i-q-u-e-d.

[noodle3872]

Yo, so maybe i've been under a rock, but i just noticed that mizuno released a japan only Mizuno Pro 319. Is this the equivalent of the mp18 split cavity? If not then my interest is p-i-q-u-e-d.

 

That’s exactly what it is.

[ChadR7371]

Hope the Hot Metal Pro's are the same loft numbers to match the Tours.

 

I read in another thread that the pro would only be offered in 4-7 iron. That seems pointless to me. I'm really hoping it was bad info.

 

That would be bizarre

 

They are probably the same lofts as the 919 Hot Metals. When you have a stock 20 degree 4 iron you don't really need a 3 iron at 19 degrees (MP 18 Fli Hi 3 iron loft).

 

Just order a 2nd 4 iron and have them bend it to 18. :telephone:

[jetmech879]

Hope the Hot Metal Pro's are the same loft numbers to match the Tours.

 

I read in another thread that the pro would only be offered in 4-7 iron. That seems pointless to me. I'm really hoping it was bad info.

 

That would be bizarre

 

They are probably the same lofts as the 919 Hot Metals. When you have a stock 20 degree 4 iron you don't really need a 3 iron at 19 degrees (MP 18 Fli Hi 3 iron loft).

 

Just order a 2nd 4 iron and have them bend it to 18. :telephone:

 

I'm not a big fan of strengthening lofts on mizuno. It makes for a club with to much offset and zero to negative bounce. I'm really hoping they come out with a 18° jpx fli-hi or pro. That would be my Valentine's present! Lol!

[landshark]

I had the chance to hit both new drivers. In setup position both look the same. They look and feel awesome! Like a Subzero or G400 LST. Very nice muted sound! The ST190 had a little more draw bias. The ST190G was fade biased for me. In the neutral setup I could not turn it over, which was easy with the ST190.

The non adjustable 3 wood was easy to hit of the deck. But the face of the fairwaywood looked very square and straight, not much bulge in it, which I have to get used to... I hope the TourSpoon will look a little more round - Just like the 180 TourSpoon BUT in black - I hope so :-)

I hit all of the new clubs with the Atmos TourSpec black 6s.

I can not wait until it comes to the retail market in february....

is the st190 real low spin like the st180? I could use a little bit of spin...

 

The ST190 now has a little more weight low and back so the launch and spin has come up. The ST190G is now the spin killer. You will love the ST190!

With the ST190 what kind of numbers were you getting comparing to the ST180? Pricing on the st180 has dropped so much that it's worth jumping on, especially coming from an older cobra flyZ. just wonder if it's going to do a whole lot more?? thanks