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    Just goes to show the dire straits ™ are in if they just off the current world no.1
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    Adidas no longer owns TM so I would expect to see him remain with the three stripes as Sergio and Xander have.
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    Every year this happens and people talk about money as if there’s a tremendous amount being thrown around in these deals, but no one ever seems to know the numbers. Does anyone actually know the figures involved here? I always feel like we overestimate the value of these deals.
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    toc wrote:


    Every year this happens and people talk about money as if there’s a tremendous amount being thrown around in these deals, but no one ever seems to know the numbers. Does anyone actually know the figures involved here? I always feel like we overestimate the value of these deals.




    From my understanding these deals have a lot of bonus options , for example wins , tops 10’s owgr at certain points. Which is likely why the owgr race right now between him dj and brooks is something more “below water “ than not. If I were to guess they would all get a handsome bonus by finishing the calendar year as owgr 1 from all of their respective contracts
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    He'll be just fine...
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  • dubbelbogeydubbelbogey Members  584WRX Points: 296Posts: 584 Golden Tee
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    All for Justin Rose seeking a better contract for himself - if it's a better deal for him and his family, that's all that really matters for him (as long as they perform, of course, which I don't imagine will be a problem at all.)



    What might be more interesting is to see if this gives Honma a better market presence and, in turn, provides better market performance. Do they really care if they sell more clubs in the US or Europe? Maybe, but it's possible they're bringing on Rose mostly to polish their image for their mainstay Asian market. If they're really going after the US and European markets from an actual sales perspective, they have a lot of work to do.
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    ZBigStick wrote:


    Adidas no longer owns TM so I would expect to see him remain with the three stripes as Sergio and Xander have.
    True that!
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  • theboypinoytheboypinoy Members  2105WRX Points: 148Posts: 2,105 Platinum Tees
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    He'll be fine. Their Tour World line is very nice.



    Irons are top-notch, and the woods (if he chooses to add those to the bag as well) are extremely underrated. I've hit them against the bigger named OEMs and they did just as well/better
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    even Riggs from Barstool wrote about this (he's a moron and has no clue about equipment yet titleist fitted him fully LOL). Point is Rosie can play anything and he'll be fine, no need to overreact when a tour pro switches.
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  • JagpilotohioJagpilotohio 45+ inch drivers are evil. Columbus, OHMembers  7281WRX Points: 588Handicap: 1.8Posts: 7,281 Titanium Tees
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    Whose down!!!?? LOL JwadjH1.png




    WTF?



    I thought you photoshopped this until I looked it up. That shop, willpga, is legit as well.



    You can get brand new knock offs with a choice of shafts for $558 Straight out of Guangzhou China.



    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mens-Golf-Clubs-Irons-Honma-Is-05-3-Star-Golf-Irons-5-11-Aw-Sw-Graphite-Golf-/183420389584
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    Whose down!!!?? LOL JwadjH1.png




    WTF?



    I thought you photoshopped this until I looked it up. That shop, willpga, is legit as well.



    You can get brand new knock offs with a choice of shafts for $558 Straight out of Guangzhou China.



    https://www.ebay.com...f-/183420389584




    Hahaha. Yes you can.
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    gyro25 wrote:


    Egg let him follow the money.. funny how golf ends up being like other sports where players jump teams for the bigger paycheck



    On that note, F laveon Bell for his holdout still
    with Nike out of the equipment business, the days of large club deals are going away as fast as the manufacturers can shed them.
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    Hopefully it's not another Sergio. I saw the dude on the back of a milk carton the other day. Nobody has seen him since April 2017.
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    I was lucky enough to try one of their cavity back, non gold plated irons and they were one of the softest irons I've ever hit. I hope Rose can bring the brand some exposure because I imagine their normal clubs are really good.
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    TollBros wrote:
    Hopefully it's not another Sergio. I saw the dude on the back of a milk carton the other day. Nobody has seen him since April 2017.




    He won in Spain just a couple of weeks ago. He's had a bad year, but he turned up at the Ryder Cup too.
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  • BrianMcGBrianMcG Members  2377WRX Points: 666Posts: 2,377 Platinum Tees
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    I love their descriptions on their website of their clubs.



    Example:

    "Like 717M, this model provides a mild sense of hitting, high spin performance , and excellent control performance, all of which are specific to the muscle back forged mechanism. Considered requests from tournament professional golfers, the top and leading edges are sharp, providing an image of sharper motion with that shape. In addition, making the pocket appearance uniform in a set of golf clubs provides the impression of crushing the ball with the same feeling"



    I want to see JR in a commercial saying exactly that.
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    Don't know why anyone would play Honma down, their stuff is legit. My buddy plays some TW 737 irons and he is smitten... really good stuff and I hope Rose kills it out there with what he bags. I hit a 737 driver the other day and was really impressed with its performance, besides the sound.... Hoping to see Honma blow up a little bit here in the US. I agree Rose doesn't particularly move the needle, but hard to ignore W#1.
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    He'll still be playing ctaper shafts so nothing will change. He could play shovel heads on those ctapers and still stripe it.
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    jimb6golf wrote:


    Hope it doesn't end up similar to when Corey Pavin switched to PRGR irons years ago and his game all but disappeared. Will be interested to see what he ends up playing though.




    The same pavin who played the Cleveland VAS ? Can't really blame the irons now can he ?



    I thought this was reported a couple months ago in tour talk ? Honma is a step up in quality. Not down.






    yes 100%



    top Japanese quality
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  • ZBigStickZBigStick Practice Perfect Form Members  5315WRX Points: 76Posts: 5,315 Titanium Tees
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    getitdaily wrote:
    He'll still be playing ctaper shafts so nothing will change. He could play shovel heads on those ctapers and still stripe it.


    He hits the ball with the shaft?

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    ZBigStick wrote:


    Adidas no longer owns TM so I would expect to see him remain with the three stripes as Sergio and Xander have.




    I agree. He just singed his deal with Morgan Stanley as well. I’m sure their logo will be found somewhere on adidas clothing.



    Plus he’s #1 in world and has worn adidas shoes for 20 years. I doubt he’ll want to change shoes right now
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  • farmerfarmer Members  8718WRX Points: 1,106Posts: 8,718 Titanium Tees
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    Looking at the prices, apart from the weird stuff, Honma is affordable, particularly for JDM. Pavin not only switched brands, he switched types of clubs. Lee Janzen did the same thing when he went to Hogan, wrecked both of them.
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    As he plays blades, I wonder if this means Honma will put out a new forged blade. The 717 and 727 lines included a forged blade, but strictly speaking, the 737 line did not. I say strictly speaking, because the TW-BM came out before the 737 line and doesn't carry the 737 label. It's also cast, not forged like the 717 and 727 blades and most of the 737 irons.
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    elwhippy wrote:


    Honma are not a big company
    Recent sales figures for Honma are $250 million/year with very little US/Europe presence. It's not like they are some guy selling knock off/clone clubs out of a garage somewhere. Just because Honma doesn't have the sales of Cally/TM/Titleist etc doesn't mean they are "small".



    https://www.golfdigest.com/story/justin-rose-to-leave-taylormade-expected-to-sign-with-honma



    Honma, famous for its gold-plated clubs, artisan-style craftsmanship and five-figure price tags, has redoubled its efforts to become a major player in the golf business both globally and specifically in North America after having been purchased by Chinese businessman Liu Jianguo. Originally established in 1959 in Sakata, Japan, Honma languished in the early 2000s before being purchased by a fund run by Liu, a Chinese businessman whose company makes hair dryers and rice cookers. An avid golfer, Liu changed Honma’s business model in Asia and its sales have increased the last four years in a row to nearly $250 million. Honma now is listed on the Hong Kong stock exchange after a 2016 initial public offering. It also is the title sponsor of the Hong Kong Open.
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    Tbh, I see Justin Rose doing well with whatever irons he chooses. He's just too good of a ball striker.
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    Has anyone thought that maybe TM is making room for another player who moves the needle to come in??? No renewal for Sergio last year and Rose this year has made a lot of space, looks to me like they are making a play for a well known player.... Watch this space!!
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    Can't wait what his bag would look like! exciting!
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    Whose down!!!?? LOL JwadjH1.png




    At least the shipping is free...





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