Yes

[TigerMom]

https://www.amateurgolf.com/golf-tournament-news/22170/So--you-want-to-play-in-the-IVY-League-

[BertGA]

"I am here to tell you that if you want to use a sport to help in your application, then golf is the worst sport you can play (whereas basketball, football, hockey or lacrosse are the best). "

[TigerMom]

"I am here to tell you that if you want to use a sport to help in your application, then golf is the worst sport you can play (whereas basketball, football, hockey or lacrosse are the best). "

 

his numbers are probably right

 

but too bad you need the right genes to play college in those sports, even for women

 

silly comparison

[wildcatden]

"I am here to tell you that if you want to use a sport to help in your application, then golf is the worst sport you can play (whereas basketball, football, hockey or lacrosse are the best). "

 

Sounds like reverse psychology to me. :D

[heavy_hitter]

"I am here to tell you that if you want to use a sport to help in your application, then golf is the worst sport you can play (whereas basketball, football, hockey or lacrosse are the best). "

 

Sounds like reverse psychology to me. :D

 

"I am here to tell you that if you want to use a sport to help in your application, then golf is the worst sport you can play (whereas basketball, football, hockey or lacrosse are the best). "

 

his numbers are probably right

 

but too bad you need the right genes to play college in those sports, even for women

 

silly comparison

 

Sounds like you are stereotyping to me. Makes me wonder.

[jj9000]

OP...trying to understand your motives here.

 

Are you looking for validation relative to you pushing your kid in a certain direction...with your desired outcome being the end-game?

[BertGA]

"I am here to tell you that if you want to use a sport to help in your application, then golf is the worst sport you can play (whereas basketball, football, hockey or lacrosse are the best). "

 

Sounds like reverse psychology to me. :D

 

Classic. In fact, maybe TigerMom = Brendan Ryan.

[TigerMom]

"I am here to tell you that if you want to use a sport to help in your application, then golf is the worst sport you can play (whereas basketball, football, hockey or lacrosse are the best). "

 

Sounds like reverse psychology to me. :D

 

"I am here to tell you that if you want to use a sport to help in your application, then golf is the worst sport you can play (whereas basketball, football, hockey or lacrosse are the best). "

 

his numbers are probably right

 

but too bad you need the right genes to play college in those sports, even for women

 

silly comparison

 

Sounds like you are stereotyping to me. Makes me wonder.

 

what stereo?

 

got to be big, tall, strong, fast to play those sports with hardly any exception

 

not absolutely necessary in golf

 

just look at lpga tour players - many of best are not greatest physical specimens

[tiger1873]

If you want to go to Harvard, Yale or Stanford or just about any IVY league then sports and surprising I come to find out even academics is not a sure path. I multiple parents who have sent their kids these schools and worked with gads from there.

 

The underlying factor is most of the kids that got in went to super expensive elite private schools. Schools that costs maybe 40k a year to go to in tuition. Then if you have a hard time getting in throw the school some money for junior.

[TigerMom]

OP...trying to understand your motives here.

 

Are you looking for validation relative to you pushing your kid in a certain direction...with your desired outcome being the end-game?

 

I just thought it was interesting article

 

must have minimum academics, then compete among that pool of players (who actually want to go)

 

very few spots (2-3 per year per team? maybe more since many drop out of Ivy golf later) but very few qualify academically

 

seems like golf not as great due to weather and heavy workload (studying in college?)

 

information is good

[iteachgolf]

"I am here to tell you that if you want to use a sport to help in your application, then golf is the worst sport you can play (whereas basketball, football, hockey or lacrosse are the best). "

 

his numbers are probably right

 

but too bad you need the right genes to play college in those sports, even for women

 

silly comparison

 

Don’t have to be very big to play hockey or lacrosse at all. Certainly no more so than golf

[Exwinger20]

"I am here to tell you that if you want to use a sport to help in your application, then golf is the worst sport you can play (whereas basketball, football, hockey or lacrosse are the best). "

 

his numbers are probably right

 

but too bad you need the right genes to play college in those sports, even for women

 

silly comparison

 

Don’t have to be very big to play hockey or lacrosse at all. Certainly no more so than golf

 

As a former D1 and professional hockey player I can attest to this being true.

[TigerMom]

"I am here to tell you that if you want to use a sport to help in your application, then golf is the worst sport you can play (whereas basketball, football, hockey or lacrosse are the best). "

 

his numbers are probably right

 

but too bad you need the right genes to play college in those sports, even for women

 

silly comparison

 

Don’t have to be very big to play hockey or lacrosse at all. Certainly no more so than golf

 

running (skating) speed over short distances is highly genetic

[iteachgolf]

"I am here to tell you that if you want to use a sport to help in your application, then golf is the worst sport you can play (whereas basketball, football, hockey or lacrosse are the best). "

 

his numbers are probably right

 

but too bad you need the right genes to play college in those sports, even for women

 

silly comparison

 

Don’t have to be very big to play hockey or lacrosse at all. Certainly no more so than golf

 

running (skating) speed over short distances is highly genetic

 

No it’s not. It can be taught and trained quite easily. My brother played D1 lacrosse and ran about a 5.2 40. I played hockey for 11 years.

[Exwinger20]

"I am here to tell you that if you want to use a sport to help in your application, then golf is the worst sport you can play (whereas basketball, football, hockey or lacrosse are the best). "

 

his numbers are probably right

 

but too bad you need the right genes to play college in those sports, even for women

 

silly comparison

 

Don't have to be very big to play hockey or lacrosse at all. Certainly no more so than golf

 

running (skating) speed over short distances is highly genetic

 

Absolutely hockey players are (like all other top tier athletes) born not made.

[kekoa]

Show of hands.

 

Lets say your junior was smart and an absolute phenom in golf? How many of you would send them to an Ivy league school? Harvard, Yale, etc.... Note that Stanford isn't Ivy League.

[jj9000]

Show of hands.

 

Lets say your junior was smart and an absolute phenom in golf? How many of you would send them to an Ivy league school? Harvard, Yale, etc.... Note that Stanford isn't Ivy League.

 

Define 'absolute phenom'.

 

Absolute phenom in the sense that they have the ability to make a living playing golf --> I would recommend a 'golf-centric' OK. St. like program.

 

Absolute phenom in the sense that they are very very good, but will likely work in a traditional job capacity after college --> I would recommend Ivy.

 

Ultimately the decision would be made by the child though. I'm not going to force what I want them to do on them. I'll encourage, with facts.

 

If they don't want to go whichever route...for whatever reason...there's no amount of convincing that will make up for the lack of passion (academically or athletically).

[iteachgolf]

Vanderbilt or Stanford would be a way better option for anyone looking to pursue golf professionally

[RangerV]

Show of hands.

 

Lets say your junior was smart and an absolute phenom in golf? How many of you would send them to an Ivy league school? Harvard, Yale, etc.... Note that Stanford isn't Ivy League.

If my kid was a phenom and smart, they could go wherever they wanted. I didn’t get the good grades or shoot the low scores, and I’m not the one that is going to college, doing homework, living away from home, or playing golf. Except for financial reasons, parents are there to answer questions, not make decisions.

[BertGA]

Show of hands.

 

Lets say your junior was smart and an absolute phenom in golf? How many of you would send them to an Ivy league school? Harvard, Yale, etc.... Note that Stanford isn't Ivy League.

If my kid was a phenom and smart, they could go wherever they wanted. I didn’t get the good grades or shoot the low scores, and I’m not the one that is going to college, doing homework, living away from home, or playing golf. Except for financial reasons, parents are there to answer questions, not make decisions.

 

Exactly this

[TigerMom]

"I am here to tell you that if you want to use a sport to help in your application, then golf is the worst sport you can play (whereas basketball, football, hockey or lacrosse are the best). "

 

his numbers are probably right

 

but too bad you need the right genes to play college in those sports, even for women

 

silly comparison

 

Don’t have to be very big to play hockey or lacrosse at all. Certainly no more so than golf

 

running (skating) speed over short distances is highly genetic

 

No it’s not. It can be taught and trained quite easily. My brother played D1 lacrosse and ran about a 5.2 40. I played hockey for 11 years.

 

Exwinger (who played pro) disagrees with you sorry

[iteachgolf]

 

his numbers are probably right

 

but too bad you need the right genes to play college in those sports, even for women

 

silly comparison

 

Don’t have to be very big to play hockey or lacrosse at all. Certainly no more so than golf

 

running (skating) speed over short distances is highly genetic

 

No it’s not. It can be taught and trained quite easily. My brother played D1 lacrosse and ran about a 5.2 40. I played hockey for 11 years.

 

Exwinger (who played pro) disagrees with you sorry

 

Your sarcasm meter is broken

[TigerMom]

Show of hands.

 

Lets say your junior was smart and an absolute phenom in golf? How many of you would send them to an Ivy league school? Harvard, Yale, etc.... Note that Stanford isn't Ivy League.

 

Keoka,

 

First you have to qualify academically

 

Merely smart doesn’t cut it

 

Have to be really great academically if you play niche sports like golf and tennis to get into top schools

 

Academic Index self explanatory

 

Junior golf phenom still has probably less than 10% chance to make it as touring pro

 

Might as well aim for top schools

 

Other great academic + golf include Duke, Northwestern, Cal Berkeley

 

UVA and UNC are also ok academics

 

If you want to get into high paid professional job best go to school with good brand recognition for academics

[TigerMom]

 

Your sarcasm meter is broken

 

You cannot be (naturally) slow and small and uncoordinated and make it sorry

 

Have to be outstanding in at least two and at worst average in third: size/strength, speed/agility, coordination/skill

 

It’s the same in most sports

 

You teach top players - why you argue with this?

[iteachgolf]

 

Your sarcasm meter is broken

 

You cannot be (naturally) slow and small and uncoordinated and make it sorry

 

Have to be outstanding in at least two and at worst average in third: size/strength, speed/agility, coordination/skill

 

It’s the same in most sports

 

You teach top players - why you argue with this?

 

Speed/agility/ coordination can be taught and are learned skills. Nobody is born knowing how to walk let alone run/skate. Plenty of top lacrosse players are smaller than 5’10. Best attack and Defenseman on my brothers D1 team were both 5’7, the attack was maybe 140lbs. I’ve been a professional in 2 different sports and am 5’7.

 

Yes I do teach top players and genetics have very little to do with their success. You’re trying to make excuses why kids fail and your doing so before they even have a chance.

[TigerMom]

 

Your sarcasm meter is broken

 

You cannot be (naturally) slow and small and uncoordinated and make it sorry

 

Have to be outstanding in at least two and at worst average in third: size/strength, speed/agility, coordination/skill

 

It’s the same in most sports

 

You teach top players - why you argue with this?

 

Speed/agility/ coordination can be taught and are learned skills. Nobody is born knowing how to walk let alone run/skate. Plenty of top lacrosse players are smaller than 5’10. Best attack and Defenseman on my brothers D1 team were both 5’7, the attack was maybe 140lbs. I’ve been a professional in 2 different sports and am 5’7.

 

Yes I do teach top players and genetics have very little to do with their success. You’re trying to make excuses why kids fail and your doing so before they even have a chance.

 

There are innate aptitudes for everything

 

Just because you can become proficient at something through hard work doesn’t mean you can become really great

 

The best athletes have great genes and work really hard too

 

How can someone with less natural ability compete with someone who was “born with it” and busts butte

 

This is not controversial

[iteachgolf]

 

Your sarcasm meter is broken

 

You cannot be (naturally) slow and small and uncoordinated and make it sorry

 

Have to be outstanding in at least two and at worst average in third: size/strength, speed/agility, coordination/skill

 

It’s the same in most sports

 

You teach top players - why you argue with this?

 

Speed/agility/ coordination can be taught and are learned skills. Nobody is born knowing how to walk let alone run/skate. Plenty of top lacrosse players are smaller than 5’10. Best attack and Defenseman on my brothers D1 team were both 5’7, the attack was maybe 140lbs. I’ve been a professional in 2 different sports and am 5’7.

 

Yes I do teach top players and genetics have very little to do with their success. You’re trying to make excuses why kids fail and your doing so before they even have a chance.

 

There are innate aptitudes for everything

 

Just because you can become proficient at something through hard work doesn’t mean you can become really great

 

The best athletes have great genes and work really hard too

 

How can someone with less natural ability compete with someone who was “born with it” and busts butte

 

This is not controversial

 

Except that the things you claim people are born with aren’t genetic. They are learned.

 

[TigerMom]

 

Your sarcasm meter is broken

 

You cannot be (naturally) slow and small and uncoordinated and make it sorry

 

Have to be outstanding in at least two and at worst average in third: size/strength, speed/agility, coordination/skill

 

It’s the same in most sports

 

You teach top players - why you argue with this?

 

Speed/agility/ coordination can be taught and are learned skills. Nobody is born knowing how to walk let alone run/skate. Plenty of top lacrosse players are smaller than 5’10. Best attack and Defenseman on my brothers D1 team were both 5’7, the attack was maybe 140lbs. I’ve been a professional in 2 different sports and am 5’7.

 

Yes I do teach top players and genetics have very little to do with their success. You’re trying to make excuses why kids fail and your doing so before they even have a chance.

 

There are innate aptitudes for everything

 

Just because you can become proficient at something through hard work doesn’t mean you can become really great

 

The best athletes have great genes and work really hard too

 

How can someone with less natural ability compete with someone who was “born with it” and busts butte

 

This is not controversial

 

Except that the things you claim people are born with aren’t genetic. They are learned.

 

Running fast and big size are not learned

 

Even strength has limitations

[iteachgolf]

 

You cannot be (naturally) slow and small and uncoordinated and make it sorry

 

Have to be outstanding in at least two and at worst average in third: size/strength, speed/agility, coordination/skill

 

It’s the same in most sports

 

You teach top players - why you argue with this?

 

Speed/agility/ coordination can be taught and are learned skills. Nobody is born knowing how to walk let alone run/skate. Plenty of top lacrosse players are smaller than 5’10. Best attack and Defenseman on my brothers D1 team were both 5’7, the attack was maybe 140lbs. I’ve been a professional in 2 different sports and am 5’7.

 

Yes I do teach top players and genetics have very little to do with their success. You’re trying to make excuses why kids fail and your doing so before they even have a chance.

 

There are innate aptitudes for everything

 

Just because you can become proficient at something through hard work doesn’t mean you can become really great

 

The best athletes have great genes and work really hard too

 

How can someone with less natural ability compete with someone who was “born with it” and busts butte

 

This is not controversial

 

Except that the things you claim people are born with aren’t genetic. They are learned.

 

Running fast and big size are not learned

 

Even strength has limitations

 

Running reasonably fast is learned. And again big size isn’t necessary. The average collegiate lacrosse player is 5’11 and 185lbs. UNC’s top scorer in school history is 5’5. One of Villanova’s top players in last decade was 5’4 and 140lbs. It’s obvious you don’t understand the game at all. Again my brother was a top lacrosse player in the state of FL and was 5’9 and 175lbs in high school. And he’s actually quite slow running. He understands the game and is almost always in the right place at the right time and won 88% of his face offs his senior season. He learned to be skillful but is not a great athlete.

[heavy_hitter]

Show of hands.

 

Lets say your junior was smart and an absolute phenom in golf? How many of you would send them to an Ivy league school? Harvard, Yale, etc.... Note that Stanford isn't Ivy League.

 

I would not. Not to get political, but Ivy League schools tend to indoctrinate kids into beliefs that I don’t agree with.