Prosoft inserts

[Cruisin1966]

I played the KBS c-taper 120S before. I'm getting older and later in the round I know I'm getting tired. I have some graphite shafts, but I'm not sold on the feel. So, I was looking for the dampening effect of the prosofts as well as adding the lighter weight. And, well, I like to try different things.

[Nixhex524]

Just ordered some PSI... I thought there had to be a better way, like some type at Home Depot, but I don't see a reason to take a chance when this stuff is as cheap as it is.... Problem is, you don't know your shaft is rotting from the inside out till it's too late, then you can pretty much guarantee when one goes, the rest are soon to follow. I doubt anyone would come on here to tell us how they were wrong, but I hope it doesn't happen. Good luck, I'm just not willing to take the chance. Hoping these help out in some X100s.

[caniac6]

I currently have ProSoft Inserts in my G30 irons. Is there a big difference in shock absorption from steel shafts with PSIs vs graphite shafts?

[Stuart_G]

> @caniac6 said:

> I currently have ProSoft Inserts in my G30 irons. Is there a big difference in shock absorption from steel shafts with PSIs vs graphite shafts?

 

For me there was zero comparison. Graphite was superior by a wide margin. But that's with me and my particular condition. Different conditions will have different sensitivities so may not 'see' the differences as severe as I did.

 

[Cruisin1966]

Prosoft inserts help, but I'm with @Stuart_G, there really isn't a comparison.

Edited February 7, 2021 by Cruisin1966

[SAM_PGA]

I've been using PSI's in my steel shafts for about 6 years now. With as little as they cost it is worth the small investment to keep hand arthritis at bay. It's a small gain in the sum of a bigger purpose (ie. stretching, strength training, supplements, etc. + Pro Soft Inserts :smiley: )

[Radeon962]

Graphite is noticeably better but PSI are much better than plain steel and different steel shafts, to me at least, are harder in your elbows. Played DGS300 105 with PSI and they still felt "brittle". Nippon NS Pro Modus3 Tour 105 with PSI felt better. Going round and round with Steelfiber's and Recoil's right now and there is no comparison in vibration reduction between graphite and steel with PSI. Graphite is so much easier on my elbows.

[firstbatch]

Is there any reason that blowing grips on would disturb the prosoft insert install?

[ESP]

> @firstbatch said:

> Is there any reason that blowing grips on would disturb the prosoft insert install?

 

I have the same question. Getting ready to install prosoft inserts and was assuming I shouldn't blow on grips. I may give it a try and see what happens and report back.

[Hot Rod 71]

> @firstbatch said:

> Is there any reason that blowing grips on would disturb the prosoft insert install?

 

I've installed Prosoft inserts on several sets of clubs and then blown the grips on and haven't experienced any issues.

 

I've also blown off grips with Prosoft inserts already in place and haven't experienced any issues.

[I_HATE_SNOW]

> @firstbatch said:

> Is there any reason that blowing grips on would disturb the prosoft insert install?

 

Yes, air can sneak past them, once you release the pressure at the grip, they pop up the shaft, can go completely against the grip. They can also be pushed down the shaft and jam. Use a wire probe and see if they moved while gripping. I had a small hook to pull them back into place, when I used them. I found them to be a waste of time, money and effort. Get a good set of graphite shafts and be done with it.

[firstbatch]

Excellent, thanks. I’m doing a new iron set build now with KBS $ taper having played recoils for several years and figured I would do the prosofts as a precaution.

[Kid Bro Sweets]

> @I_HATE_SNOW said:

> > @firstbatch said:

> > Is there any reason that blowing grips on would disturb the prosoft insert install?

>

> Yes, air can sneak past them, once you release the pressure at the grip, they pop up the shaft, can go completely against the grip. They can also be pushed down the shaft and jam. Use a wire probe and see if they moved while gripping. I had a small hook to pull them back into place, when I used them. I found them to be a waste of time, money and effort. Get a good set of graphite shafts and be done with it.

 

Thats if the user is willing to go graphite. For those that are hanging on to steel the pro softs "help".

[loc]

Just spent 2 hours trying to get 5/8 rod backing into a LZ 5.0 shaft.  Totally frustrated. Coat hangers, oil, Screw drivers, car antennas, dowel rods, all a failure.  

[Skhacker]

They don't affect swing weight on my scale at all. They certainly reduce vibration though. These are like Frank's Hot Sauce for me now. I put that sh&# on everything! From driver to putter, steel or graphite. 

[Skhacker]

On 5/24/2019 at 1:56 PM, Kid Bro Sweets said:

> @I_HATE_SNOW said:

> > @firstbatch said:

> > Is there any reason that blowing grips on would disturb the prosoft insert install?

>

> Yes, air can sneak past them, once you release the pressure at the grip, they pop up the shaft, can go completely against the grip. They can also be pushed down the shaft and jam. Use a wire probe and see if they moved while gripping. I had a small hook to pull them back into place, when I used them. I found them to be a waste of time, money and effort. Get a good set of graphite shafts and be done with it.

 

Thats if the user is willing to go graphite. For those that are hanging on to steel the pro softs "help".

 

2 hours ago, loc said:

Just spent 2 hours trying to get 5/8 rod backing into a LZ 5.0 shaft.  Totally frustrated. Coat hangers, oil, Screw drivers, car antennas, dowel rods, all a failure.  

Use another shaft if you have one and push it in that way. Goes down plenty far enough. 

[Nessism]

2 hours ago, loc said:

Just spent 2 hours trying to get 5/8 rod backing into a LZ 5.0 shaft.  Totally frustrated. Coat hangers, oil, Screw drivers, car antennas, dowel rods, all a failure.  

 

That's why Prosoft sells an installation tool.  It's got a forked end that digs down into the insert to get a good bite while pushing to install.

 

Edited February 7, 2021 by Nessism

[cristphoto]

I've installed and removed the Pro soft inserts using the special tool.  Super easy with the tool, frustrating without.  Since the tool will last a lifetime and only costs $20 its best to purchase it along with the inserts.  

[Curious]

As an added feature to dampen vibration I would ram down an iron cork down the shaft.

https://www.golfworks.com/swingweight-shaft-corks/p/civ/

For an alternative to the original tool see this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=514DgFT0v8I

[BREWMASTER95060]

split in 1/2 all but the first 2 inches of the prosoft then use the threaded rod push foam in unscrew thread rod to get it out. works for me

[BREWMASTER95060]

[BREWMASTER95060]

a 1/4 inch wooden dowel would work also. I think.

Edited February 7, 2021 by BREWMASTER95060
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[loc]

Done. 5/8 backing from Lowe’s. Cut 8.5 inches. Used 12 gauge shotgun bore brush with some gun oil to clean up inside of shaft and lube it a bit. “Screwed” foam in and inserted a screwdriver about half way in to let out air build up. Continue to oil rod and screw in. Last inch or two push to get it in then use an older shaft to push it in to the 3.5 inches inside shaft. Still tedious work but got them in.