1-iron for a youth

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My son's 13, about 5'5". He wants a 1-iron. Where would one acquire such a thing?
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  • CwebbCwebb  6028WRX Points: 327Members Posts: 6,028 Titanium Tees
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    Older clubs on Ebay. Lots of options
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  • heavy_hitterheavy_hitter  3589WRX Points: 925Members Posts: 3,589 Titanium Tees
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    A 3 iron today will be like the loft of a 1 iron from yesteryear.
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  • BeerPerHoleBeerPerHole  1493WRX Points: 384Members Posts: 1,493 Platinum Tees
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    Haha! All good answers. Thanks guys. I think this kid could hit a zero-iron. He’s an exceptional ball striker. Me, on the other hand...
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  • iteachgolfiteachgolf  17086WRX Points: 1,223Members Posts: 17,086 Titanium Tees
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    It’s not about hot good they can hit it. Almost zero chance a 13 year has enough speed to hit a 1 iron high enough without adding loft at impact, which teaches bad habits and defeats the purpose. Most shouldn’t be playing a 3 iron
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    leezer99 wrote:

    iteachgolf wrote:


    It's not about hot good they can hit it. Almost zero chance a 13 year has enough speed to hit a 1 iron high enough without adding loft at impact, which teaches bad habits and defeats the purpose. Most shouldn't be playing a 3 iron




    iTeach - what are the major influencers of ball height or is it strictly swing speed? From what I understand most pros average around 30 - 33 yards at apex. Anything you recommend to hit those moon shots like JDay?




    Speed, spin loft, and contact



    Won’t hit moonball long irons unless you have speed like Rory, Day, etc. Optimal launch and spin numbers results in a 6 iron only going 75’ high or so at 80mph. Rory and the high speed guys can hit 6 irons 140+’ high. It’s even more skewed with a 3 iron let alone a 1 iron
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  • BeerPerHoleBeerPerHole  1493WRX Points: 384Members Posts: 1,493 Platinum Tees
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    Well, he's hitting his driver past 3 bills now, in competition...He's 2 clubs longer than I am, and he's playing little US Kids irons. Speed isn't his problem. Paying to reshaft his kiddie irons with stiffer shafts is the problem.
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  • heavy_hitterheavy_hitter  3589WRX Points: 925Members Posts: 3,589 Titanium Tees
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    Well, he's hitting his driver past 3 bills now, in competition...He's 2 clubs longer than I am, and he's playing little US Kids irons. Speed isn't his problem. Paying to reshaft his kiddie irons with stiffer shafts is the problem.




    What is his swing speed?



    I call complete BS. I am around some of the best junior golfers in the country and they aren't driving it over 300. We are talking about elite athletes as well into their late teen years. I won't say there is no way, but it is highly unlikely a 90 lb 13 year old can generate the 115 mph swing speed to drive the ball 300 yards.



    Please post swing and post the numbers from Trackman/Flightscope and I will eat my own words.
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  • JagpilotohioJagpilotohio 45+ inch drivers are evil. Columbus, OH 7267WRX Points: 568Handicap: 1.8Members Posts: 7,267 Titanium Tees
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    5’ 5” 13 year old hitting the driver 300+??



    Please, Please, post a swing video so we can see this prodigy in action. Sounds like something to behold.



    As far as the clubs go. You certainly shouldn’t bother to reshaft the kiddie clubs. At 5’ 5” and a 110+ mph driver speed he should be using men’s standard clubs about a 1/2 inch under standard length and probably a degree or two flat.
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    Well, he's hitting his driver past 3 bills now, in competition...He's 2 clubs longer than I am, and he's playing little US Kids irons. Speed isn't his problem. Paying to reshaft his kiddie irons with stiffer shafts is the problem.




    Well I teach guys swinging 125-130 mph and none swing fast enough to hit a 1 iron at a playable trajectory. In fact none of them even carry a 2 iron. I’m talking guys flying a blade 3 iron 250-260 yards and going 270+. There’s no way your son has the speed to play a 1 iron.
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    I played a 1 iron in high school. My nickname on the team was Ace. It was an old Hogan Apex Grind 1 iron. Don't listen to the arm chair QBs. If he wants one, get him one.
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    My son's 13, about 5'5". He wants a 1-iron. Where would one acquire such a thing?


    please be a responsible parent and talk him out of this:)
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  • iteachgolfiteachgolf  17086WRX Points: 1,223Members Posts: 17,086 Titanium Tees
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    ckay wrote:


    I played a 1 iron in high school. My nickname on the team was Ace. It was an old Hogan Apex Grind 1 iron. Don't listen to the arm chair QBs. If he wants one, get him one.




    Except that an old 1 iron is closer to a modern day 3 iron and the old ball spun WAY more. It was 15-16*
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  • zzyzxx33zzyzxx33  1166WRX Points: 150Members Posts: 1,166 Platinum Tees
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    I say get him an old Eye 2 1 iron. He can use it to learn how to learn to hit a stinger like Tiger did.
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    My 8 yr old asked for a GAPR 2 iron and I almost punched him.
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  • BeerPerHoleBeerPerHole  1493WRX Points: 384Members Posts: 1,493 Platinum Tees
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    ckay wrote:


    I played a 1 iron in high school. My nickname on the team was Ace. It was an old Hogan Apex Grind 1 iron. Don't listen to the arm chair QBs. If he wants one, get him one.
    Yeah - golf is supposed to be fun. I once had a cast GI MacGregor set with a 2 iron. It was a good club, good set. I suck.



    And, he's not bombing a US Kids driver. He games an M2 w adult R shaft (way too wobbly - changing that one out).
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    ckay wrote:


    I played a 1 iron in high school. My nickname on the team was Ace. It was an old Hogan Apex Grind 1 iron. Don't listen to the arm chair QBs. If he wants one, get him one.
    Yeah - golf is supposed to be fun. I once had a cast GI MacGregor set with a 2 iron. It was a good club, good set. I suck.



    And, he's not bombing a US Kids driver. He games an M2 w adult R shaft (way too wobbly - changing that one out).




    Chang his bag, if he could hit the golf balls like you said, he can certainly be playing a shorter set of adult golf clubs.

    Utility irons will be a good replacement for the 1 iron, since you couldn't get pass the 3 iron in the modern set of irons, Just get the utility irons for him with appropriate loft to replace the 2 and the 1 irons.
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    iteachgolf wrote:

    ckay wrote:


    I played a 1 iron in high school. My nickname on the team was Ace. It was an old Hogan Apex Grind 1 iron. Don't listen to the arm chair QBs. If he wants one, get him one.




    Except that an old 1 iron is closer to a modern day 3 iron and the old ball spun WAY more. It was 15-16*


    Yes that is the case, but I didn't know this was a conversation about today's 1 iron vs. any 1 iron.



    In either case, if he wants one, get him one!
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    ...and, maybe he's not hitting the M2 for a while. During my lunch break a few minutes ago he called me and said, "Dad. I have a serous problem." Seems he broke the head of his M2 today on the course or range. It appears to be about a 1" crack across the carbon fiber crown near the hosel. He's had it about a year so maybe they'll replace it(?)
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    ...and, maybe he's not hitting the M2 for a while. During my lunch break a few minutes ago he called me and said, "Dad. I have a serous problem." Seems he broke the head of his M2 today on the course or range. It appears to be about a 1" crack across the carbon fiber crown near the hosel. He's had it about a year so maybe they'll replace it(?)




    Yes they likely will.



    On that note, let's see a quick swing vid of your son. Or I guess we can just assume you started drinking a bit early today and all is forgiven.
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    My son is 14 just got him. Pxg 2 iron. Fitter was great. Found the rrihjr shaft for him, he stripes it. Helps him hit tight fairways

    I would try to see a pxg fitter. Great experience
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  • Aaronwilson_95Aaronwilson_95  913WRX Points: 124Members Posts: 913 Golden Tee
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    I haven’t seen a 1 iron in a bag of a player ina long time



    Probally at least 8 guys at my school carried tmb 2 irons and about 1/2 off them didn’t have the speed or ability to consisntly hit those . You’re 13 year old definilty doesn’t



    But everyone sees them on tv and thinks they need to be playing one
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    I haven’t seen a 1 iron in a bag of a player ina long time



    Probally at least 8 guys at my school carried tmb 2 irons and about 1/2 off them didn’t have the speed or ability to consisntly hit those . You’re 13 year old definilty doesn’t



    But everyone sees them on tv and thinks they need to be playing one




    Cameron Champ doesnt even carry a 1 iron and he sucks!!!
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    kekoa wrote:



    I haven’t seen a 1 iron in a bag of a player ina long time



    Probally at least 8 guys at my school carried tmb 2 irons and about 1/2 off them didn’t have the speed or ability to consisntly hit those . You’re 13 year old definilty doesn’t



    But everyone sees them on tv and thinks they need to be playing one




    Cameron Champ doesnt even carry a 1 iron and he sucks!!!




    I bet he would if he had higher swing speed though.
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    A golfer wants to try a 1 iron, I don’t get what the big deal is here. Does it make you guys feel that much better to put somebody down for wanting to try a club?
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    I'd let my Big Bertha gold or eye 2 one iron go for a fair price
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    The answer to the original question is.

    Look on ebay for a used 1 iron. Buy it, let him try it and get it out of his system.
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    sandtrap wrote:


    The answer to the original question is.

    Look on ebay for a used 1 iron. Buy it, let him try it and get it out of his system.




    Seems too obvious.
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    5’ 5” 13 year old hitting the driver 300+??



    Please, Please, post a swing video so we can see this prodigy in action. Sounds like something to behold.



    As far as the clubs go. You certainly shouldn’t bother to reshaft the kiddie clubs. At 5’ 5” and a 110+ mph driver speed he should be using men’s standard clubs about a 1/2 inch under standard length and probably a degree or two flat.




    He swings mid to upper 90s with maybe a max of 100 mph which is good for a 13 year old.
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