Flightscope Results Question

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QuasimotoQuasimoto Members  961WRX Points: 131Handicap: ?Posts: 961 Golden Tee
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Hi to all you analysts, here is an average of 6 Flightscope numbers out of 16 strikes, these being similar and my best.<br />
At 64 I am working on swing freedom and consistency, while increasing ball speed if possible.<br />
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I will post the numbers and then ask a question. Note: printing or transmitting the results was not possible due to a new employee with lack of understanding of a new device. Right handed with a Srixon 785 and PX 6.0 HC shaft.<br />
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Ball Launch Side A Back Side S Descent Offline Peak Carry Total<br />
137.1 16.4 0.0 2400 117 38.1 5.5 yd 101 245 266<br />
So I am happy with many aspects of these numbers, and I have work to do to keep building technique to apply more club head speed through timing and legwork.<br />
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My question is, with a 0.0 side angle, and 117 side spin, good back spin number, how do I end up 5.5 yds offline?<br />
Several of the ditched shots had more side spin and ended up further offline - mostly on faded shots. Shots with a draw and more than 117 side spin had more distance, and more yards offline left.<br />
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Thanks for your help<br />
Edit: Sorry, couldn't get the numbers to line up properly.
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Srixon z785 9.5 Miyazaki Kuala 5544
Mizuno 3W ST200 Diamana S 
Taylormade 5W SIM Diamana R Limited Dialead
Cleveland Halo Hybrids 3,4 Miyazaki 5555
Srixon z785 6-AW Nippon Tour 105 R
Callaway Jaws MD5 54, 58 Nippon Tour 105 S
Odyssey Stroke Labs Bird of Prey
TP5X, ZStar XV
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  • Krt22Krt22 East BayMembers  9280WRX Points: 2,914Posts: 9,280 Titanium Tees
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    Side spin means the ball is curving. 5.5 yards off line on a 245 yard shot is nothing to worry about. And are you sure this was a flightscope?
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  • iteachgolfiteachgolf Members  17194WRX Points: 1,422Posts: 17,194 Titanium Tees
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    Not on a Flightscope. Numbers look more like Foresight
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  • QuasimotoQuasimoto Members  961WRX Points: 131Handicap: ?Posts: 961 Golden Tee
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    Apologies yes, it was a Foresight.
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    Srixon z785 9.5 Miyazaki Kuala 5544
    Mizuno 3W ST200 Diamana S 
    Taylormade 5W SIM Diamana R Limited Dialead
    Cleveland Halo Hybrids 3,4 Miyazaki 5555
    Srixon z785 6-AW Nippon Tour 105 R
    Callaway Jaws MD5 54, 58 Nippon Tour 105 S
    Odyssey Stroke Labs Bird of Prey
    TP5X, ZStar XV
  • Krt22Krt22 East BayMembers  9280WRX Points: 2,914Posts: 9,280 Titanium Tees
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    Foresight is a little odd in that they report side spin, in reality there is no such thing as side spin, in reality the ball only can spin around a single axis, but that axis can be tilted relative to the target. But it's a good way I guess to let users know that the ball will curve, the more side spin, the more curvature. If the ball starts perfectly straight and has some side spin, it will curve away from the target. How much offline you end up is a product of the total spin and the direction the ball starts.
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  • QuasimotoQuasimoto Members  961WRX Points: 131Handicap: ?Posts: 961 Golden Tee
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    Krt22 wrote:
    <br />
    Foresight is a little odd in that they report side spin, in reality there is no such thing as side spin, in reality the ball only can spin around a single axis, but that axis can be tilted relative to the target. But it's a good way I guess to let users know that the ball will curve, the more side spin, the more curvature. If the ball starts perfectly straight and has some side spin, it will curve away from the target. How much offline you end up is a product of the total spin and the direction the ball starts.<br />
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    <br />
    OK, got that, what is the measurement Side Angle doing? Would this equate club face pulls/pushes?
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    Srixon z785 9.5 Miyazaki Kuala 5544
    Mizuno 3W ST200 Diamana S 
    Taylormade 5W SIM Diamana R Limited Dialead
    Cleveland Halo Hybrids 3,4 Miyazaki 5555
    Srixon z785 6-AW Nippon Tour 105 R
    Callaway Jaws MD5 54, 58 Nippon Tour 105 S
    Odyssey Stroke Labs Bird of Prey
    TP5X, ZStar XV
  • Krt22Krt22 East BayMembers  9280WRX Points: 2,914Posts: 9,280 Titanium Tees
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    Yes, basically horizontal launch angle relative to the "target".
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  • smashdnsmashdn Let's cut them trees down. Members  2215WRX Points: 862Posts: 2,215 Platinum Tees
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    5.5 yards offline is very much a manageable "miss" if you can even call 5.5 yards a miss.
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  • PetethreeputPetethreeput Members  1659WRX Points: 411Handicap: 2.8Posts: 1,659 Platinum Tees
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    Krt22 wrote:
    <br />
    Foresight is a little odd in that they report side spin, in reality there is no such thing as side spin, in reality the ball only can spin around a single axis, but that axis can be tilted relative to the target. But it's a good way I guess to let users know that the ball will curve, the more side spin, the more curvature. If the ball starts perfectly straight and has some side spin, it will curve away from the target. How much offline you end up is a product of the total spin and the direction the ball starts.<br />
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    Very informative, thank you. Can I ask a follow up?<br />
    <br />
    Say a player has high “sidespin” numbers. Is this a product of swing path or would you look at lie angles first?
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  • bogeyprobogeypro The Original Bogeypro ALClubWRX  3557WRX Points: 437Handicap: +1Posts: 3,557 ClubWRX
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    iteachgolf wrote:
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    Not on a Flightscope. Numbers look more like Foresight<br />
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    That Dan guy is pretty sharp! 😆 good catch.
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  • jut111jut111 Members  1759WRX Points: 341Posts: 1,759 Platinum Tees
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    Krt22 wrote:
    <br />
    Foresight is a little odd in that they report side spin, in reality there is no such thing as side spin, in reality the ball only can spin around a single axis, but that axis can be tilted relative to the target. But it's a good way I guess to let users know that the ball will curve, the more side spin, the more curvature. If the ball starts perfectly straight and has some side spin, it will curve away from the target. How much offline you end up is a product of the total spin and the direction the ball starts.<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    Very informative, thank you. Can I ask a follow up?<br />
    <br />
    Say a player has high “sidespin” numbers. Is this a product of swing path or would you look at lie angles first?<br />
    <br />
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    It’s a product of face to path relationship. Bigger the difference between the two bigger the spin axis/“side spin”. So lie angle plays into the face part of that relationship.
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