Handle dragging vs Monte's no turn cast drill

[markfax]

For my entire golf life, I have struggled with getting the club forward enough in the transition/ds, so that I have little or no shaft lean at impact. I took a lesson from a new teacher to see if a new set of eyes could help.

 

The instructor said that I had the opposite problem, that I was dragging the handle too much through impact. But in a FO video, at P6 the entire shaft was behind my right thigh. Like always, I threw the club at the ball to keep from hitting it fat, and no shaft lean at impact.

 

He also said that at impact with an iron or driver, the handle should point toward my navel, and that I should try to chicken wing my left arm slightly to short my swing radius and avoid shanks (never mind that my bad miss is usually toward the toe).

 

Reminded of Monte's no turn cast drill, I asked the instructor if his recommended impact position was reality, or was he just trying to get me to move my arms forward more quickly. He said it was reality.

 

Any ideas on how to interpret all this? It seems to go against everything I see in elite players.

[glk]

Run away

[MonteScheinblum]

https://media.giphy.com/media/3o7ZetIsjtbkgNE1I4/giphy.gif

[ebrasmus21]

Thank god you have us to rely on.

 

What Guy and Monte said.

[Jesterdoc]

Not for nothing, I tried for 6 months to get the feel of the No Turn Cast and just couldn’t ever get it to work for me. Felt 9 kinds of wrong and I fell apart anytime I tried to implement it into my swing drills.

 

2 nights ago I tried Monte’s “elbows touching†and it was like an Ah Ha moment. The No Turn Cast suddenly made perfect sense and felt almost natural. I haven’t hit a solid ball with it, but I did go hit a few foam practice balls at 3/4 speed. The difference is feelable. If that’s even a word.

 

Strange feeling when it clicks like that.

 

But what they said, R-U-N!!!

[BrianMcG]

Is your new instructor CPG?

Is he getting you to use his 7-4-7 swing thought system?

 

[MPStrat]

Is your new instructor CPG?

Is he getting you to use his 7-4-7 swing thought system?

 

It takes a true artist to shank proof a toe biased player with a chicken wing

[MonteScheinblum]

Is your new instructor CPG?

Is he getting you to use his 7-4-7 swing thought system?

 

It takes a true artist to shank proof a toe biased player with a chicken wing

 

Artist? I say....

[Matt J]

Standing it straight up sounds great in a vacuum, but no one is perfect. I feel like shaft lean gives me some wiggle room at impact. Too much makes for some bad misses, but so does too little.

[smeal818]

Solid bump, but I assume those that drag the handle are polar opposite to those with arms that lag behind? Can anyone confirm my interpretation?