Jump to content
2024 Houston Open WITB Photos ×

Forgiving wedges- CBX, etc...


lefty74pgh

Recommended Posts

I’m looking for any feedback on wedges. I’ve read countless threads and tried multiple techniques, but my wedge game inside 50 yds is brutal. I know the obvious answer is lessons and practice, but that’s not realistic with two kids and a demanding job.

 

Will the Cleveland CBX’s or any other make a difference?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Replies 48
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

I say it's a toss up between either the CBX, and Ping Glide 2.0 Stealth. The CBX would likely be more forgiving and the Ping a more players shape and size. The Ping was found the best of all the wedges according to another websites testing

Cobra LTD HZRDUS 75g 6.5 (Synergy Black 70TX tipped 1/2")
Ping 2014 Rapture 3W - Blueboard 73x5ct
Cobra F8 3 hybrid (HZRDUS Black 85 6.5)
4 Hybrid...
Srixon Z545 5-AW (SF i110 stiff)
RTX 3.0 - 54 and 58 (SF i125 stiff)
Ping Ketsch Mid 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

... I've read countless threads and tried multiple techniques, but my wedge game inside 50 yds is brutal. I know the obvious answer is lessons and practice, but that's not realistic with two kids and a demanding job. ...

 

I appreciate your situation, but having a pro give you a short game tune-up would help you select the right wedges. The best wedge is one that delivers when you swing it properly.

 

I have a short game lesson every couple of years, and it usually helps me fine-tune things close in.

What's In The Bag (As of April 2023, post-MAX change + new putter)

 

Driver:  Tour Edge EXS 10.5° (base loft); weights neutral   ||  FWs:  Calla Rogue 4W + 7W

Hybrid:  Calla Big Bertha OS 4H at 22°  ||  Irons:  Calla Mavrik MAX 5i-PW

Wedges*:  Calla MD3: 48°... MD4: 54°, 58° ||  PutterΨSeeMore FGP + SuperStroke 1.0PT, 33" shaft

Ball: 1. Srixon Q-Star Tour / 2. Calla SuperHot (Orange preferred)  ||  Bag: Sun Mountain Three 5 stand bag

    * MD4 54°/10 S-Grind replaced MD3 54°/12 W-Grind.

     Ψ  Backups:

  • Ping Sigma G Tyne (face-balanced) + Evnroll Gravity Grip |
  • Slotline Inertial SL-583F w/ SuperStroke 2.MidSlim (50 gr. weight removed) |
Link to comment
Share on other sites

At a minimum you should be fit for wedges to figure out what type of sole design is best for you. Obviously lessons and practice would be better. Depending on if you are "digger" or "sweeper", the right sole design will help with your mishits.

 

All golf OEMs have good wedges these days, you just need the one that fits you best. No one on this forum is going to be able to answer this for you without knowing your swing.

Old stuff:
1962 Tommy Armour AT2W Driver   1953 Macgregor M65W EOM 3 wood   1978 H&B PowerBilt Citation 4 wood
1984 Ben Hogan Apex PC 2-E   1968 Wilson Dual Wedge
1964 Acushnet O-SET M6S Bullseye Putter


New stuff
Cobra ZL 10.5 driver (Matrix HD6 s-flex)  Titleist TSR2 18* fairway wood (Matrix Code-8 s-flex)   Adams A2P 20* hybrid (Rombax 8D07HB s-flex)
Titleist 716 MB irons 4-PW (Apex 4 soft-stepped)    Callaway Mack Daddy wedges 52, 56, 60 (DG S200)
Odyssey ProType 9 putter

Link to comment
Share on other sites

At a minimum you should be fit for wedges to figure out what type of sole design is best for you. Obviously lessons and practice would be better. Depending on if you are "digger" or "sweeper", the right sole design will help with your mishits.

 

All golf OEMs have good wedges these days, you just need the one that fits you best. No one on this forum is going to be able to answer this for you without knowing your swing.

 

I agree with this. You are asking about inside 50 yards. There’s not going to be much help in a cavity. Find your best sole grind and a setup that lets you hit the center of the face the most frequently.

 

OP, what are you playing now?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

In short: If you want forgiveness at the bottom of the bag, pick a set style wedge for the GW, as most amateurs use this club for full swings more than anything else. For the remaining wedges, you have to pick them based on turf interaction and your style of play/swing. The wedge that gives you the best turf interaction will give you the best accuracy and ease of use. I cannot begin to stress this enough. It took me awhile to understand it, but when I did, my wedge game became a weapon instead of a liability.

 

Good luck!

 

A little more detail: The site which cannot be named just did a test... results were surprising.

 

I agree the CBX is easy as pie on full swings; my playing partner has two and you can miss the grooves all together and still get it there sometimes.

 

I had Mizuno S18s for a bit. They seemed to help on full swing misses out of center. The site that cannot be named agreed that this wedge appears to offer a bit of help off center.

 

I used to balk on vokeys, thinking they weren't going to offer help on my toe sided miss, but tbh the SM7 55 I have is really great on full swings, barring an absurd miss.

 

What I learned the hard way is that the most forgiving wedge is the one that has a sole that fits you just right. For me, I stayed with a set style wedge (AP2 50) where I'm going to be taking mostly full shots. From there, the S-Grind has been amazing for blending full shots and some versatility for pitching and chipping, especially with square face. The old school 12 bounce SM2 has been perfect in the lob.

 

The bounce and sole width is the biggest thing. I take decent divots with wedges and need it to cut the turf without digging. That means some bounce and a fairly thin sole that accelerates through.

Titleist TSR3 - 9* - Ventus TR Black 6x

Callaway Rogue LS - 15* - Tour ADXC 7x

Callaway Apex UW - 19* - Ventus Black 7x

PXG 0311P Gen6 - 5i-GW - DG x100

Vokey SM9 - 52.12F, 56.14F - KBS Tour 120 Wedge

Vokey SM9 - 60.08M - KBS Hi-Rev 2.0

L.A.B Link.1
Callaway Chrome Soft TruTrack (Winter)
Vessel Player III - Citrine/White/Black (Riding)
Vessel VLS DXR - Grey/Orange (Walking/half-bag)
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I’m looking for any feedback on wedges. I’ve read countless threads and tried multiple techniques, but my wedge game inside 50 yds is brutal. I know the obvious answer is lessons and practice, but that’s not realistic with two kids and a demanding job.

 

Will the Cleveland CBX’s or any other make a difference?

 

I’ve been wedge freak ever since I started golfing (1989). Since, I’ve tried and owned just about every wedge. Best part of my game has/is the short game. I test alll the wedges that comes on the market. Last year, I tried CBX and bought one to tinker around with. Tried various different shaft and once I gotten used to it, I was blown away how forgiving they are. Now, I have a full set of them. Ay first, I hated the bounce options, but with little practice, I hit down on the ball little more taking good size divots. Ball spins more and it just goes where I aim. I never worry about digging, bounce works wonders and the grind is versatile. They are also great around the green side. Highly recommended. Ping Glide 2.0 is great wedge but not that forgiving compared to CBX.

Driver: Ping G400 Max 10.5 Stock Alta (need shaft fitting)
Fairway Wood: Ryoma F5
Hybrid: TaylorMade M6 4H & 6H
Irons: OnOff Kuro 2015 6 - PW
Wedge: Cleveland RTX4 50, 54 and 58
Putter: S.C. GoLo 3
Ball: TaylorMade TP5X
Club hoe, builder, fitter and tester as hobbyist since 1993

Link to comment
Share on other sites

At a minimum you should be fit for wedges to figure out what type of sole design is best for you. Obviously lessons and practice would be better. Depending on if you are "digger" or "sweeper", the right sole design will help with your mishits.

 

All golf OEMs have good wedges these days, you just need the one that fits you best. No one on this forum is going to be able to answer this for you without knowing your swing.

 

I agree with this. You are asking about inside 50 yards. There’s not going to be much help in a cavity. Find your best sole grind and a setup that lets you hit the center of the face the most frequently.

 

OP, what are you playing now?

 

I appreciate the response. I’ve tried everything and currently have MD3 56 W and a T7 56.14. I guess it’s all mental with me. I take excellent practice swings then have a mental breakdown on my actual shot. I have a tendency to dig or stab at the ball.

 

It’s frustrating because I play around a 6 handicap and just struggle with these shots. I was trying to see if the CBX or Glide 2.0 would make a difference.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Old Ping Eye 2’s can be quite versatile and found on eBay for pretty cheap. Loft options are limited but I’ve had good luck with the W and S covering my short game needs (50.5* and 57.5*)- this coming from a dude with three little kids and full time and part time job.

Modern bag:
Nike vr str8 fit tour set at 11
Ping rapture v2 4 wood
Nike vr_s 3 and 4 hybrids
Maltby mmb 5-pw
Carnahan 52/56/60 wedge
Rotating door of putters

Sunday/quick nine walker:
Callaway warbird deuce 2 wd
Callaway warbird 4 wd
Hogan apex pro 4-E
Ping eye 2 W and S
Ping cushin putter

Classic bag:
Palmer Chattanooga driver
Hogan Slotline 4 wd
Palmer Standard 85 3-pw
Same ping eye 2 sw
Wilson professional 600 putter

Link to comment
Share on other sites

OP talking about 50 yards and in, so don't think (just being honest) a club is going to make that much difference. The term wedges, as in plural, makes me think, get one 58 or 60 that you like how it looks and feels - likely some type of blade - then just play it and you'll learn to use it well. If talking full swing from 50 yards where forgiveness might make a statistical difference, looking at a 64* ? I think maybe a sweet feeling forged blade might help you concentrate better, kind of like a new putter.

 

Expectations of a good wedge game, implies intrinsic feel or practice.

2021 Bag Update:

 

Epic Max LS - MMT 60S

Epic Flash 5 Wood

Epic 3/4 Hybrids

Apex '21 Irons 5-7  MMT95 TT

Apex Pro '21 Irons 8-A  MMT95 TT

PM Grind Slate Wedges 58/64

Odyssey Exo Mini 7s

B330 XS Yellow

Link to comment
Share on other sites

OP talking about 50 yards and in, so don't think (just being honest) a club is going to make that much difference. The term wedges, as in plural, makes me think, get one 58 or 60 that you like how it looks and feels - likely some type of blade - then just play it and you'll learn to use it well. If talking full swing from 50 yards where forgiveness might make a statistical difference, looking at a 64* ? I think maybe a sweet feeling forged blade might help you concentrate better, kind of like a new putter.

 

Expectations of a good wedge game, implies intrinsic feel or practice.

 

Even on chip, pitches around the green, 50 yards and in, we do hit off center.

Driver: Ping G400 Max 10.5 Stock Alta (need shaft fitting)
Fairway Wood: Ryoma F5
Hybrid: TaylorMade M6 4H & 6H
Irons: OnOff Kuro 2015 6 - PW
Wedge: Cleveland RTX4 50, 54 and 58
Putter: S.C. GoLo 3
Ball: TaylorMade TP5X
Club hoe, builder, fitter and tester as hobbyist since 1993

Link to comment
Share on other sites

At a minimum you should be fit for wedges to figure out what type of sole design is best for you. Obviously lessons and practice would be better. Depending on if you are "digger" or "sweeper", the right sole design will help with your mishits.

 

All golf OEMs have good wedges these days, you just need the one that fits you best. No one on this forum is going to be able to answer this for you without knowing your swing.

 

I agree with this. You are asking about inside 50 yards. There’s not going to be much help in a cavity. Find your best sole grind and a setup that lets you hit the center of the face the most frequently.

 

OP, what are you playing now?

 

I appreciate the response. I’ve tried everything and currently have MD3 56 W and a T7 56.14. I guess it’s all mental with me. I take excellent practice swings then have a mental breakdown on my actual shot. I have a tendency to dig or stab at the ball.

 

It’s frustrating because I play around a 6 handicap and just struggle with these shots. I was trying to see if the CBX or Glide 2.0 would make a difference.

 

Years ago I played with a neurosurgeon who had a horrible case of short game yips. He managed it by practicing and even playing pitches and chips one handed. I’m sure you’ll get it sorted out!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 2 weeks later...

I'm looking for any feedback on wedges. I've read countless threads and tried multiple techniques, but my wedge game inside 50 yds is brutal. I know the obvious answer is lessons and practice, but that's not realistic with two kids and a demanding job.

 

Will the Cleveland CBX's or any other make a difference?

 

The first question is "Describe how your wedge game inside 50 yards is brutal?"

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I know the obvious answer is lessons and practice, but that's not realistic with two kids and a demanding job.

 

Will the Cleveland CBX's or any other make a difference?

 

Harvey Pinnick said the difference between a scratch golfer and a 6 handicap is...

I've looked for the end of this quote and can't find it. If you could finish it, that'd be great.
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I started with a 50* CBX as a gap wedge around this time last year. I liked it so much that I found excuses to use it even when another wedge would have been called for. By early spring I added a 56* and a 60* to the bag. I haven’t had any difficulty opening the face when necessary, and haven’t had any issues with the higher bounce on tighter lies, either. They are easy to hit little draws or fades with as well as the situation may require. Give them a shot.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I started with a 50* CBX as a gap wedge around this time last year. I liked it so much that I found excuses to use it even when another wedge would have been called for. By early spring I added a 56* and a 60* to the bag. I haven’t had any difficulty opening the face when necessary, and haven’t had any issues with the higher bounce on tighter lies, either. They are easy to hit little draws or fades with as well as the situation may require. Give them a shot.

 

I’m a teerrible wedge player from 115 yards in. I mean awful. I’m long and straight off the tee and a really solid iron striker that plays cobra amp cell pro irons and a pretty good putter. But I can’t hit a shot within 115 yards to save my life. Got myself the CBX 50/54/58 set up. Broke 80 all three rounds to end the season. Drained 3 short pitches from 60 plus yards with my 54. I have not drained a shot that far out in some 10 years. My full approaches with the 50 were all on the green. I’m super impressed.

Titleist TSi3

TEE C722 Hybrid 2-3-4

Maltby TE+ V4 5-G

Maltby Max Milled 54/60

Odyssey RX1 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I say again if you are buying GI irons, get them down to lob wedge. My ping G400 are far better than the Cleveland’s - I’m sure When I had Callaway XR those were great too. If you aren’t good enough to play specialist wedges, imho stick with the set till you are.

 

I'm not sure about this - some players are better at certain parts of the game than others. Might not be the case for the OP, but for some, mastering wedge play (and partial swings) is a lot easier than long or mid irons. I play GI irons, but have specialist SW/LW - I would agree with set PW/GW though for most mid/high cappers though.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Our picks

    • 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open - Discussion and links to Photos
      Please put any questions or Comments here
       
       
       
      General Albums
       
      2024 Texas Children's Houston Open - Monday #1
      2024 Texas Children's Houston Open - Monday #2
      2024 Texas Children's Houston Open - Tuesday #1
      2024 Texas Children's Houston Open - Tuesday #2
      2024 Texas Children's Houston Open - Tuesday #3
       
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Thorbjorn Olesen - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Ben Silverman - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Jesse Droemer - SoTX PGA Section POY - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      David Lipsky - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Martin Trainer - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Zac Blair - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Jacob Bridgeman - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Trace Crowe - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Jimmy Walker - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Daniel Berger - WITB(very mini) - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Chesson Hadley - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Callum McNeill - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Rhein Gibson - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Patrick Fishburn - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Peter Malnati - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Raul Pereda - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Gary Woodland WITB (New driver, iron shafts) – 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Padraig Harrington WITB – 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      Tom Hoge's custom Cameron - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Cameron putter - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Piretti putters - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Ping putter - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Kevin Dougherty's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Bettinardi putter - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Cameron putter - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Erik Barnes testing an all-black Axis1 putter – 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Tony Finau's new driver shaft – 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
       
       
       
       
       
      • 9 replies
    • 2024 Valspar Championship WITB Photos (Thanks to bvmagic)- Discussion & Links to Photos
      This weeks WITB Pics are from member bvmagic (Brian). Brian's first event for WRX was in 2008 at Bayhill while in college. Thanks so much bv.
       
      Please put your comments or question on this thread. Links to all the threads are below...
       
       
       
       
        • Like
      • 31 replies
    • 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational - Discussion and Links to Photos
      Please put any questions or comments here
       
       
       
      General Albums
       
      2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational - Monday #1
      2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational - Monday #2
      2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational - Monday #3
       
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Matt (LFG) Every - WITB - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
      Sahith Theegala - WITB - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
       
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      New Cameron putters (and new "LD" grip) - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
      New Bettinardi MB & CB irons - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
      Custom Bettinardi API putter cover - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
      Custom Swag API covers - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
      New Golf Pride Reverse Taper grips - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
        • Like
      • 15 replies
    • 2024 Cognizant Classic - Discussion and Links to Photos
      Please put any questions or comments here
       
       
       
       
      General Albums
       
      2024 Cognizant Classic - Monday #1
      2024 Cognizant Classic - Monday #2
      2024 Cognizant Classic - Monday #3
      2024 Cognizant Classic - Monday #4
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Brandt Snedeker - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Max Greyserman - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Eric Cole - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Carl Yuan - WITb - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Russell Henley - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Justin Sun - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Alex Noren - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Shane Lowry - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Taylor Montgomery - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Jake Knapp (KnappTime_ltd) - WITB - - 2024 Cognizant Classic
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      New Super Stoke Pistol Lock 1.0 & 2.0 grips - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      LA Golf new insert putter - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      New Garsen Quad Tour 15 grip - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      New Swag covers - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Jacob Bridgeman's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Bud Cauley's custom Cameron putters - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Ryo Hisatsune's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Chris Kirk - new black Callaway Apex CB irons and a few Odyssey putters - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Alejandro Tosti's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Cognizant Classic
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
        • Like
      • 2 replies
    • 2024 Genesis Invitational - Discussion and Links to Photos
      Please put any questions or comments here
       
       
       
      General Albums
       
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Monday #1
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Monday #2
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Tuesday #1
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Tuesday #2
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Tuesday #3
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Tuesday #4
       
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Rory McIlroy - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Sepp Straka - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Patrick Rodgers - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Brendon Todd - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Denny McCarthy - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Corey Conners - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Chase Johnson - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tiger Woods - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tommy Fleetwood - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Matt Fitzpatrick - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Si Woo Kim - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Viktor Hovland - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Wyndham Clark - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Cam Davis - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Nick Taylor - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Ben Baller WITB update (New putter, driver, hybrid and shafts) – 2024 Genesis Invitational
       
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      New Vortex Golf rangefinder - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      New Fujikura Ventus shaft - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tiger Woods & TaylorMade "Sun Day Red" apparel launch event, product photos – 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tiger Woods Sun Day Red golf shoes - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Aretera shafts - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      New Toulon putters - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tiger Woods' new white "Sun Day Red" golf shoe prototypes – 2024 Genesis Invitational
       
       
       
       
       
      • 22 replies

×
×
  • Create New...