Titleist TS3 vs Callaway Epic Flash Sub Zero vs TM M5

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You all know what to do image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> Please discuss, argue or debate your thoughts, experience, feel, distance etc.Thanks guys.
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  • Bomber_11Bomber_11 Enjoy the Chase.  3569WRX Points: 150ClubWRX Posts: 3,569 ClubWRX
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    I think you'll find very few people who've had a chance to hit all 3....



    What I will say is this...



    Titleist's improvement from 917D2/D3 to TS2/TS3 was a much bigger progression than Rogue -> Flash or M3 -> M5.
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    1 of those 3 drivers is released where i live (TS3). So that's my favorite so far.
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  • texcromtexcrom Franklin, TN 3677WRX Points: 325ClubWRX Posts: 3,677 ClubWRX
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    TS3.......longer, sounds better, better looking, and less money.
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    One of these or one if the new offerings from PING and Mizuno will be in my bag this year. Time will tell.
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    Bomber_11 wrote:


    I think you'll find very few people who've had a chance to hit all 3....



    What I will say is this...



    Titleist's improvement from 917D2/D3 to TS2/TS3 was a much bigger progression than Rogue -> Flash or M3 -> M5.




    I honestly had such a bad taste in my mouth from the 915 series that I never even tried the 917. After a while, I noticed that it was getting some good feedback. Was it a dog for most? It can be had for a steal now. Plus, it is a beautiful driver. I'm contemplating grabbing one for craps and giggles.
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  • texcromtexcrom Franklin, TN 3677WRX Points: 325ClubWRX Posts: 3,677 ClubWRX
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    radiman wrote:

    Bomber_11 wrote:


    I think you'll find very few people who've had a chance to hit all 3....



    What I will say is this...



    Titleist's improvement from 917D2/D3 to TS2/TS3 was a much bigger progression than Rogue -> Flash or M3 -> M5.




    I honestly had such a bad taste in my mouth from the 915 series that I never even tried the 917. After a while, I noticed that it was getting some good feedback. Was it a dog for most? It can be had for a steal now. Plus, it is a beautiful driver. I'm contemplating grabbing one for craps and giggles.




    917 D3 is an excellent driver. Played it with a Diamana white for almost two years. Solid, and a great looking club.



    That being said, the TS3 is noticeably longer (probably because I got properly fitted, as well as a little hotter head), and more forgiving.



    Good luck, you won’t be disappointed.
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    I thought the 917 sounded and felt great — also very accurate — but it is clear the TS line is superior for distance.



    Like the shape of the Flash SZ but have yet to see it. Some have knocked the sound but I want to hear it for myself.
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  • tdk8180tdk8180 Parts Unknown 2446WRX Points: 142Handicap: 3Banned Posts: 2,446 Platinum Tees
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    Titleist is late to the game and they still dont have a piece of equipment that can best the Callaway and Taylormade offerings. All their stuff is very nice looking, but I dont see any performance benefits.. ever.



    Looking forward to hitting the new Cally and TM offerings.
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  • bogeyprobogeypro The Original Bogeypro AL 3441WRX Points: 366Handicap: +1ClubWRX Posts: 3,441 ClubWRX
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    I loved the 917 d3. Great look and easy to hit fairways. It took some work to get distance out of it, but it was there. Get fit.
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  • MahamiltoMahamilto NYC 2081WRX Points: 252Handicap: ~8Members Posts: 2,081 Platinum Tees
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    tdk8180 wrote:


    Titleist is late to the game and they still dont have a piece of equipment that can best the Callaway and Taylormade offerings. All their stuff is very nice looking, but I dont see any performance benefits.. ever.



    Looking forward to hitting the new Cally and TM offerings.




    Someone hasn't hit the TS2/TS3 me thinks...



    Granted, its one reviewer, but the best head to head can be seen in the Rick Sheils videos...



    Hit hit the TS2 as far as the Rogue SZ and the M3



    Hit the TS3 further than either



    Hit the M5/M6 the same as the TS3, and the Flash SZ barely edged them all...



    At the very least, the TS line keeps up with anything on the market. I've also found the TS3 to be significantly more forgiving than the M3 or Rogue SZ on ball speed retention and direction when off the screws. I hit literally every driver on the market head to head when the TS series came out. The only thing close to the TS3 was the G400LST, which wanted to go left more (my miss) so the TS3 made the bag.



    No, I haven't hit the Flash SZ or M5, but I'm not going to either. There is no shot they are going to give me much more than lower bank account.
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    Titleist TS3 - 10.5* - HZRDUS Smoke Black 60g 6.5
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  • stk123stk123  455WRX Points: 97Members Posts: 455 Greens
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    My problem with the TS3 was that it spun too much. And this was when I was swinging my club 101mph (now about 115mph, so I assume it will spin way more). I was hitting the TS3 with Smoke 6.5 shaft about 2600 RPM, while I was hitting my Epic SZ (not Flash) 1800 RPM with front weight 12g and rear 2g and GP6-X shaft.



    I really liked the TS3, but spun too much. Will give it another shot at Club Champion fitting coming up this month next to the Epic Flash and other offerings. We will see...
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  • Smitty120Smitty120 MD 549WRX Points: 141Handicap: 1.0Members Posts: 549 Golden Tee
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    I agree 100% with your findings Mahamilto.
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  • MahamiltoMahamilto NYC 2081WRX Points: 252Handicap: ~8Members Posts: 2,081 Platinum Tees
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    stk123 wrote:


    My problem with the TS3 was that it spun too much. And this was when I was swinging my club 101mph (now about 115mph, so I assume it will spin way more). I was hitting the TS3 with Smoke 6.5 shaft about 2600 RPM, while I was hitting my Epic SZ (not Flash) 1800 RPM with front weight 12g and rear 2g and GP6-X shaft.



    I really liked the TS3, but spun too much. Will give it another shot at Club Champion fitting coming up this month next to the Epic Flash and other offerings. We will see...




    That is the shaft, not the head. The GP6s spun less in my TS3 than the Smoke 6.5



    Yes... GP6s...



    It actually spun so little that it will be on the BST soon.



    Driver SS is 115 or so here as well.
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    Titleist TS3 - 10.5* - HZRDUS Smoke Black 60g 6.5
    Titleist 917F2 - 14.25* - Diamana S+ LTE 80g TX
    Titleist U510 1 iron - HZRDUS Smoke Black 80g 6.5
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  • Z1ggy16Z1ggy16  8972WRX Points: 1,222Members Posts: 8,972 Titanium Tees
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    F9 has to be tossed in there, too.
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    Bomber_11 wrote:


    I think you'll find very few people who've had a chance to hit all 3....



    What I will say is this...



    Titleist's improvement from 917D2/D3 to TS2/TS3 was a much bigger progression than Rogue -> Flash or M3 -> M5.


    Definitely agree
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  • MahamiltoMahamilto NYC 2081WRX Points: 252Handicap: ~8Members Posts: 2,081 Platinum Tees
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    I never could get the D2 to spin low enough, and the D3 was great when nutted, but really sprayed if missed.



    To me the TS3 is as easy to hit as the D2, but as low spinning (with higher launch) as the D3
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  • GoGoErkyGoGoErky  2497WRX Points: 860Members Posts: 2,497 Platinum Tees
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    Imo ts3>m5>flash sz
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  • LaymanMLaymanM Cincinnati, OH 2211WRX Points: 302Handicap: 7Members Posts: 2,211 Platinum Tees
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    Ts3 is a monster. One of longest drivers I've hit. Not experience with flash or m5/m6 yet.
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    stk123 wrote:


    My problem with the TS3 was that it spun too much. And this was when I was swinging my club 101mph (now about 115mph, so I assume it will spin way more). I was hitting the TS3 with Smoke 6.5 shaft about 2600 RPM, while I was hitting my Epic SZ (not Flash) 1800 RPM with front weight 12g and rear 2g and GP6-X shaft.



    I really liked the TS3, but spun too much. Will give it another shot at Club Champion fitting coming up this month next to the Epic Flash and other offerings. We will see...




    6.5 is too stiff for 100mph.
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    Never had this much trouble trying to decide which direction to go with a driver before
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  • tdk8180tdk8180 Parts Unknown 2446WRX Points: 142Handicap: 3Banned Posts: 2,446 Platinum Tees
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    Mahamilto wrote:

    tdk8180 wrote:


    Titleist is late to the game and they still dont have a piece of equipment that can best the Callaway and Taylormade offerings. All their stuff is very nice looking, but I dont see any performance benefits.. ever.



    Looking forward to hitting the new Cally and TM offerings.




    Someone hasn't hit the TS2/TS3 me thinks...



    Granted, its one reviewer, but the best head to head can be seen in the Rick Sheils videos...



    Hit hit the TS2 as far as the Rogue SZ and the M3



    Hit the TS3 further than either



    Hit the M5/M6 the same as the TS3, and the Flash SZ barely edged them all...



    At the very least, the TS line keeps up with anything on the market. I've also found the TS3 to be significantly more forgiving than the M3 or Rogue SZ on ball speed retention and direction when off the screws. I hit literally every driver on the market head to head when the TS series came out. The only thing close to the TS3 was the G400LST, which wanted to go left more (my miss) so the TS3 made the bag.



    No, I haven't hit the Flash SZ or M5, but I'm not going to either. There is no shot they are going to give me much more than lower bank account.




    Rick Shiels...ya, I hit a bunch of great shots out of the garage door range at Carls Golfland as well. After he shot in the high 80s at a tournament, I stopped watching his videos. Too many other reviewers out there for me to get some irrelevant information.



    Now...I have hit the TS stuff. Its alright, but it just doesnt perform as well as I thought it would. I thought the feel was ok at best. Swingweight felt odd to me, maybe too light. Im pulling it off the rack, so Im comparing to Cobra, Cally, and TM off the rack.



    Maybe I have to try it with my GD Tour AD collection that I have for the Callaway drivers. More fair test that way.



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    tdk8180 wrote:

    Mahamilto wrote:

    tdk8180 wrote:


    Titleist is late to the game and they still dont have a piece of equipment that can best the Callaway and Taylormade offerings. All their stuff is very nice looking, but I dont see any performance benefits.. ever.



    Looking forward to hitting the new Cally and TM offerings.




    Someone hasn't hit the TS2/TS3 me thinks...



    Granted, its one reviewer, but the best head to head can be seen in the Rick Sheils videos...



    Hit hit the TS2 as far as the Rogue SZ and the M3



    Hit the TS3 further than either



    Hit the M5/M6 the same as the TS3, and the Flash SZ barely edged them all...



    At the very least, the TS line keeps up with anything on the market. I've also found the TS3 to be significantly more forgiving than the M3 or Rogue SZ on ball speed retention and direction when off the screws. I hit literally every driver on the market head to head when the TS series came out. The only thing close to the TS3 was the G400LST, which wanted to go left more (my miss) so the TS3 made the bag.



    No, I haven't hit the Flash SZ or M5, but I'm not going to either. There is no shot they are going to give me much more than lower bank account.




    Rick Shiels...ya, I hit a bunch of great shots out of the garage door range at Carls Golfland as well. After he shot in the high 80s at a tournament, I stopped watching his videos. Too many other reviewers out there for me to get some irrelevant information.



    Now...I have hit the TS stuff. Its alright, but it just doesnt perform as well as I thought it would. I thought the feel was ok at best. Swingweight felt odd to me, maybe too light. Im pulling it off the rack, so Im comparing to Cobra, Cally, and TM off the rack.



    Maybe I have to try it with my GD Tour AD collection that I have for the Callaway drivers. More fair test that way.




    High 80s in a tournament...savage lol
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    stk123 wrote:


    My problem with the TS3 was that it spun too much. And this was when I was swinging my club 101mph (now about 115mph, so I assume it will spin way more). I was hitting the TS3 with Smoke 6.5 shaft about 2600 RPM, while I was hitting my Epic SZ (not Flash) 1800 RPM with front weight 12g and rear 2g and GP6-X shaft.



    I really liked the TS3, but spun too much. Will give it another shot at Club Champion fitting coming up this month next to the Epic Flash and other offerings. We will see...




    How did you pick up 14 mph club of head speed in such a short period of time?
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  • MahamiltoMahamilto NYC 2081WRX Points: 252Handicap: ~8Members Posts: 2,081 Platinum Tees
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    I was just suggesting hitting the same shafts.



    And no, sheils isn’t perfect, but his strike pattern is very similar on gcquad on each review...



    Al I can tell ya is the TS3 easily paced the m5/m6, and maybe was a touch behind, but negligible than the Flash SZ.



    It’s the most apples to apples at this point. He’s not a robot, but his SS, AoA, and strike pattern were the same for each driver per GCQuad (a reference quality LM)



    It’s just safe to say that all the modern drivers will be reasonably close. One isn’t going to blow the doors off any other, unless it’s a poor shaft fit.
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    Titleist 716 T-MB 3 iron - KBS C-Taper 130x
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    tdk8180 wrote:


    Now...I have hit the TS stuff. Its alright, but it just doesnt perform as well as I thought it would. I thought the feel was ok at best. Swingweight felt odd to me, maybe too light. Im pulling it off the rack, so Im comparing to Cobra, Cally, and TM off the rack.


    Well there's your problem... Titleist woods are not going to work off the rack, you need to be fitted unless you know your specs and what shaft. Comparing their woods off the rack is like driving a car with the seat and mirrors not adjusted for you.
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    ryan983 wrote:

    stk123 wrote:


    My problem with the TS3 was that it spun too much. And this was when I was swinging my club 101mph (now about 115mph, so I assume it will spin way more). I was hitting the TS3 with Smoke 6.5 shaft about 2600 RPM, while I was hitting my Epic SZ (not Flash) 1800 RPM with front weight 12g and rear 2g and GP6-X shaft.



    I really liked the TS3, but spun too much. Will give it another shot at Club Champion fitting coming up this month next to the Epic Flash and other offerings. We will see...




    How did you pick up 14 mph club of head speed in such a short period of time?




    It was just a commitment to gain swing speed. I was about 110mph 3 years ago, then injury last year got me down to 101mph. Finally healed my injury (for most part) and worked out a ton, ate healthy, and committed to gaining swing speed. Swinging hard, overspeed training, etc. But one of the biggest difference makers was a major swing change as well. I gained back a lot of what I lost, and then some. A whole lot of gym/fitness and dedication. In the end, it was very hard work.
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  • Albatross85Albatross85 Tiger is the GOAT St. Louis, MO 2952WRX Points: 214Handicap: +2.1Members Posts: 2,952 Titanium Tees
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    TS3 is a monster. Beat everything on the market for me in October.



    Haven't tried M5 or Flash, honestly not even tempted. All the reviewers have already shown there is nothing special in them. Seems like we are back to the high launch/low spin phenomenon for extra distance. M5 added no ballspeed from what i saw.



    TS3 was 3mph faster than 2nd place for me. I swing 116-118
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    For me, the TS3 has been the longest and most forgiving driver I have hit to date. I will hit the Flash SZ and M5 when they come out, but I seriously doubt they will a huge amount better. Plus I like the all black head on the TS range, not to keen on the colors, lines and graphics on the other two. Just my $.02.
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    TS3 is a monster. Beat everything on the market for me in October.



    Haven't tried M5 or Flash, honestly not even tempted. All the reviewers have already shown there is nothing special in them. Seems like we are back to the high launch/low spin phenomenon for extra distance. M5 added no ballspeed from what i saw.



    TS3 was 3mph faster than 2nd place for me. I swing 116-118




    Is high launch and low spin a bad combo? Is it less forgiving and more erratic? Can you please explain pros and cons? Genuinely interested in learning.
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