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Not sure if it HAS to be a Local Rule, I believe it could be covered in the Conditions of Competition. Basically the same thing, but one must to remember to read them.

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Not sure if it HAS to be a Local Rule, I believe it could be covered in the Conditions of Competition. Basically the same thing, but one must to remember to read them.

 

Have you bothered to look at the 2019 Rules of Golf? :swoon:

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Not sure if it HAS to be a Local Rule, I believe it could be covered in the Conditions of Competition. Basically the same thing, but one must to remember to read them.

 

Have you bothered to look at the 2019 Rules of Golf? :swoon:

Yep many hours and perhaps this is my mistake, "must be covered in a Local Rule", however in the Conditions of Competition Local Rules are frequently pointed out to be disregarded, and during most USGA and FSGA competitions that I've worked the Conditions of Competition covered this area, and many others. Maybe this will no longer be allowed. Since the PGA Tour is obviously not using distance measurement devices, it is either covered in Local Rules or the Conditions of Competition, wish is basically the same thing. I would suggest when 4.3a (1) "Committee Procedures, the Committee may adopt". I might suggest that infers the Committee could publish a Conditions of Competition.

 

So, if I'm wrong I'm wrong, but I'll follow-up to see if the Conditions of Competition can be used in place of Local Rules, which has been the practice for years. The Model Rule in Sec 8, G-5 would be published by the Committee of the local course, but for a competition, the Competition Committee may wish to ignore the Local Rule.

 

What I'm trying to point out is; since they (DMD's) can be used beginning in 2019, unless there is a Local Rule prohibiting them. I believe no course will publish this as a Local Rule, therefore when a tournament is conducted which does not want DMD's used, they would publish that requirement in the Conditions of Competition.

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Not sure if it HAS to be a Local Rule, I believe it could be covered in the Conditions of Competition. Basically the same thing, but one must to remember to read them.

 

Have you bothered to look at the 2019 Rules of Golf? :swoon:

Yep many hours and perhaps this is my mistake, "must be covered in a Local Rule", however in the Conditions of Competition Local Rules are frequently pointed out to be disregarded, and during most USGA and FSGA competitions that I've worked the Conditions of Competition covered this area, and many others. Maybe this will no longer be allowed. Since the PGA Tour is obviously not using distance measurement devices, it is either covered in Local Rules or the Conditions of Competition, wish is basically the same thing. I would suggest when 4.3a (1) "Committee Procedures, the Committee may adopt". I might suggest that infers the Committee could publish a Conditions of Competition.

 

So, if I'm wrong I'm wrong, but I'll follow-up to see if the Conditions of Competition can be used in place of Local Rules, which has been the practice for years. The Model Rule in Sec 8, G-5 would be published by the Committee of the local course, but for a competition, the Competition Committee may wish to ignore the Local Rule.

 

What I'm trying to point out is; since they (DMD's) can be used beginning in 2019, unless there is a Local Rule prohibiting them. I believe no course will publish this as a Local Rule, therefore when a tournament is conducted which does not want DMD's used, they would publish that requirement in the Conditions of Competition.

 

Keep studying; they're now called Terms of Competition. I hope you're no longer an active referee.

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Not sure if it HAS to be a Local Rule, I believe it could be covered in the Conditions of Competition. Basically the same thing, but one must to remember to read them.

 

Have you bothered to look at the 2019 Rules of Golf? :swoon:

Yep many hours and perhaps this is my mistake, "must be covered in a Local Rule", however in the Conditions of Competition Local Rules are frequently pointed out to be disregarded, and during most USGA and FSGA competitions that I've worked the Conditions of Competition covered this area, and many others. Maybe this will no longer be allowed. Since the PGA Tour is obviously not using distance measurement devices, it is either covered in Local Rules or the Conditions of Competition, wish is basically the same thing. I would suggest when 4.3a (1) "Committee Procedures, the Committee may adopt". I might suggest that infers the Committee could publish a Conditions of Competition.

 

So, if I'm wrong I'm wrong, but I'll follow-up to see if the Conditions of Competition can be used in place of Local Rules, which has been the practice for years. The Model Rule in Sec 8, G-5 would be published by the Committee of the local course, but for a competition, the Competition Committee may wish to ignore the Local Rule.

 

What I'm trying to point out is; since they (DMD's) can be used beginning in 2019, unless there is a Local Rule prohibiting them. I believe no course will publish this as a Local Rule, therefore when a tournament is conducted which does not want DMD's used, they would publish that requirement in the Conditions of Competition.

 

Keep studying; they're now called Terms of Competition. I hope you're no longer an active referee.

Wow, so vicious. I'll keep trying and working on new terms.

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Not sure if it HAS to be a Local Rule, I believe it could be covered in the Conditions of Competition. Basically the same thing, but one must to remember to read them.

 

Have you bothered to look at the 2019 Rules of Golf? :swoon:

Yep many hours and perhaps this is my mistake, "must be covered in a Local Rule", however in the Conditions of Competition Local Rules are frequently pointed out to be disregarded, and during most USGA and FSGA competitions that I've worked the Conditions of Competition covered this area, and many others. Maybe this will no longer be allowed. Since the PGA Tour is obviously not using distance measurement devices, it is either covered in Local Rules or the Conditions of Competition, wish is basically the same thing. I would suggest when 4.3a (1) "Committee Procedures, the Committee may adopt". I might suggest that infers the Committee could publish a Conditions of Competition.

 

So, if I'm wrong I'm wrong, but I'll follow-up to see if the Conditions of Competition can be used in place of Local Rules, which has been the practice for years. The Model Rule in Sec 8, G-5 would be published by the Committee of the local course, but for a competition, the Competition Committee may wish to ignore the Local Rule.

 

What I'm trying to point out is; since they (DMD's) can be used beginning in 2019, unless there is a Local Rule prohibiting them. I believe no course will publish this as a Local Rule, therefore when a tournament is conducted which does not want DMD's used, they would publish that requirement in the Conditions of Competition.

 

Keep studying; they're now called Terms of Competition. I hope you're no longer an active referee.

Wow, so vicious. I'll keep trying and working on new terms.

 

LOL, you are to be applauded for not including a lot of new terms in your response!

 

God forbid anyone would dare ask an innocent question about the rules.

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Terms of competition!’? So now TOC instead of COC. Hilarious. They cause CC to be stamped on nearly every wedge made around 2010 and now they change the naming to confuse. More solutions looking for a problem.

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Terms of competition!'? So now TOC instead of COC. Hilarious. They cause CC to be stamped on nearly every wedge made around 2010 and now they change the naming to confuse. More solutions looking for a problem.

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Pgatour.com reports that the tour has instituted a local rule against distance measuring devices during any tournament round. Why all the vitriol in this thread? Sheesh

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After reading so many rude, condescending, and/or illogical comments from Rules Officials on this forum I will avoid consulting them in tournaments in the future.

 

Most on here are ok. Some are arrogant and insecure.

 

I agree. A simple question on the Rules is posed. A poster who boasts of his qualifications as a player and a rules official replies with an uneducated and incorrect guess. He gets called out, admittedly somewhat aggressively by someone who actually is familiar with the 2019 Rules. We're not dealing in opinions here; there's no nuance to the Rule. Guess all you want about the weather. Guesses about the Rules are downright harmful.

 

We can opine 'till the cows come home about Justin's white belts or Ricky's odd shoes, but some stuff cannot be overlooked. :)

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After reading so many rude, condescending, and/or illogical comments from Rules Officials on this forum I will avoid consulting them in tournaments in the future.

 

Most on here are ok. Some are arrogant and insecure.

 

I agree. A simple question on the Rules is posed. A poster who boasts of his qualifications as a player and a rules official replies with an uneducated and incorrect guess. He gets called out, admittedly somewhat aggressively by someone who actually is familiar with the 2019 Rules. We're not dealing in opinions here; there's no nuance to the Rule. Guess all you want about the weather. Guesses about the Rules are downright harmful.

 

We can opine 'till the cows come home about Justin's white belts or Ricky's odd shoes, but some stuff cannot be overlooked. :)

 

When did he boast of his qualifications as a player? Don't recall anything ever, other than maybe he could be a high mid cap (which in the world of all golfers actually is something to be proud of, but don't recall any bragging or boasting of super skills).

 

When did he boast of his qualifications as a rules official? Never knew he was claiming to be one, especially now?

 

He's kind of "get off my lawn" when it comes to the TV, lol, but you seem to be stretching quite a bit to excuse a little "flintiness", lol.

 

Must be some history here I'm missing.

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After reading so many rude, condescending, and/or illogical comments from Rules Officials on this forum I will avoid consulting them in tournaments in the future.

 

Kevcarter is money.

 

Where is he, anyway?

 

Yes, and don't know - miss him!

 

Kev lurks. It's ice fishing season. :)

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