New Cobra MIM Wedge

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mrmikeacmrmikeac  700WRX Points: 549Handicap: 3.6Members Posts: 700 Golden Tee
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The whole head is metal injection molded.



Looks great!

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Driver: Taylormade Sim, HZRDUS Smoke Green 6.0, weight neutral, 10.5 Head dropped down to 9 Degrees 
3 Wood: Cobra F9 Speedback, Atmos TourSpec X Flex 
3 Hybrid: Tour Edge Exotics CBX 119, Evenflow Blue 6.5 
3 Iron: Wilson Staff Model Utility, 21 Degrees, KBS Hybrid 80 Gram Stiff
5-PW: Callaway Apex Pro 19’s, True Temper Elevate Tour 120 
50 Degree: Taylormade Milled Grind 2 Black, 9 Degree Bounce, Nippon Pro Modus 125 Wedge Flex 
54 Degree: Taylormade Milled Grind 2 Black, 11 Degree Bounce, Nippon Pro Modus 125 Wedge Flex
58 Degree: TaylorMade Hi-Toe, KBS Hi-Rev 2.0
Putter: L.A.B. Golf B.2 Blade, KBS CT Tour 34” 
Ball: Taylormade TP5
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  • nv00021nv00021  75WRX Points: 22Handicap: 9ClubWRX Posts: 75 ClubWRX
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    Are those available now? Loved my Cobra PUR wedges but they are getting a little long in the tooth.
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  • JagpilotohioJagpilotohio 45+ inch drivers are evil. Columbus, OH 7270WRX Points: 578Handicap: 1.8Members Posts: 7,270 Titanium Tees
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    And this is good?....Bad?.... Doesn’t matter?



    I just looked up Metal injection molding on Wikipedia and I can’t seem to figure out why this process is something the average joe should care about or why Cobra would care to market a club that way.



    It is a quite interesting read, but I don’t see the benefits to the end user. It isn’t stronger or “better” that I can tell. Is it cheaper than casting or forging? Is it quicker? More precise? Will we get less expensive golf clubs?



    Lots of questions but I do find the new technique quite interesting.



    Read and learn:



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_injection_molding
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    9.5* Cobra LTD, Old school Grafalloy Blue, 43.5"
    14* Cally 815 alpha fuji 665 X 42"
    16* Cally 815 alpha fuji 665 X, 41.5" (set to 17*)
    19* Titleist 816 H2 fuji 8.8X TS 40.0"
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  • the bishopthe bishop  3786WRX Points: 792Members Posts: 3,786 Titanium Tees
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    Does this process perhaps result in greater uniformity throughout the head as opposed to a traditional casting process? Maybe reduce or eliminate the chances of air pockets that can affect feel/sound? Just wondering - don't know.
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  • cforseliuscforselius  400WRX Points: 141Members Posts: 400 Greens
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    Metal injection is based on plastic injection and if they share the same benefits it will produce heads much faster than regular castings and the tolerances will be better aswell.



    I only deal with plastic injection so these are my thoughts, but it is quite impressive how fast it can produce complex parts.
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  • Kahn14Kahn14  11WRX Points: 0Members Posts: 11
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    What would you compare these wedges to amongst the competition? Would it be similar in performance to something like the MD4 or the RTX-4 or is this aimed at a completely different market?
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  • JagpilotohioJagpilotohio 45+ inch drivers are evil. Columbus, OH 7270WRX Points: 578Handicap: 1.8Members Posts: 7,270 Titanium Tees
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    cforselius wrote:


    Metal injection is based on plastic injection and if they share the same benefits it will produce heads much faster than regular castings and the tolerances will be better aswell.



    I only deal with plastic injection so these are my thoughts, but it is quite impressive how fast it can produce complex parts.




    FAR. more complicated than plastic and more steps.



    Read this:



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_injection_molding
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    9.5* Cobra LTD, Old school Grafalloy Blue, 43.5"
    14* Cally 815 alpha fuji 665 X 42"
    16* Cally 815 alpha fuji 665 X, 41.5" (set to 17*)
    19* Titleist 816 H2 fuji 8.8X TS 40.0"
    4-7 2016 Hogan PTx, KBS Tour V, 120X.  
    Ping i210 8 & 9 Proto 125 F5 hardstepped 1x.
    Ping glide 2 46-12, 50-12, 54-14 (at 55) stealth, Vokey SM6 60M (61). Wedges Recoil Proto 125 F5
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  • Z1ggy16Z1ggy16  8992WRX Points: 1,228Members Posts: 8,992 Titanium Tees
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    Hmmm yeah not sure the benefits of doing this for something that's not very complex in shape or structure. Perhaps a way to ensure better QC? It sounds like how they make sintered magnets for large motor applications when machining is difficult and needs to be really precision without machine steps.



    Kiiiiiind of seems like more of a marketing ploy than an actual technological jump in wedge performance. Also, as an aside, I really wish Cobra would make high bounce relief ground wedge design like the vokey D grind. I loved all my Cobra wedges but the "low" grind didn't have enough bounce for soft conditions. Many a sod was laid using my PUR's and my Tour Trusty's.
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    Ball - Bridgestone BXS



  • Rpete33Rpete33  586WRX Points: 72Handicap: 18Members Posts: 586 Golden Tee
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    In for more info!
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  • mrmikeacmrmikeac  700WRX Points: 549Handicap: 3.6Members Posts: 700 Golden Tee
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    To help settle this MIM process decision by Cobra, I believe it is to tighten the tolerances from club head to club head to keep the consistency as tight as they can. Seems to be the trend in golf club manufacturing lately.
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    Driver: Taylormade Sim, HZRDUS Smoke Green 6.0, weight neutral, 10.5 Head dropped down to 9 Degrees 
    3 Wood: Cobra F9 Speedback, Atmos TourSpec X Flex 
    3 Hybrid: Tour Edge Exotics CBX 119, Evenflow Blue 6.5 
    3 Iron: Wilson Staff Model Utility, 21 Degrees, KBS Hybrid 80 Gram Stiff
    5-PW: Callaway Apex Pro 19’s, True Temper Elevate Tour 120 
    50 Degree: Taylormade Milled Grind 2 Black, 9 Degree Bounce, Nippon Pro Modus 125 Wedge Flex 
    54 Degree: Taylormade Milled Grind 2 Black, 11 Degree Bounce, Nippon Pro Modus 125 Wedge Flex
    58 Degree: TaylorMade Hi-Toe, KBS Hi-Rev 2.0
    Putter: L.A.B. Golf B.2 Blade, KBS CT Tour 34” 
    Ball: Taylormade TP5
  • DatSliceDoeDatSliceDoe Camerons & Cobras One fairway over 2436WRX Points: 364Handicap: 9ishMembers Posts: 2,436 Platinum Tees
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    So is this MIM stuff more durable? Tighter tolerances? Softer feel? I don't quite get it, but as long as they make the full assortment of wedges, I'm a buyer. My original King Cobra wedges are worn out.
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  • Big BenBig Ben  9301WRX Points: 483Handicap: 5Members Posts: 9,301 Titanium Tees
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    It’s probably easier to finish maybe less steps. Not much of a benefit to the end user but marketing non the less.
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    Irons: 19' Cobra CB's
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  • PapaJohickPapaJohick ShortKnocker Bombs Charleston, SC 4621WRX Points: 233Handicap: 8Members Posts: 4,621 Titanium Tees
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    They do look nice
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  • GooseHookGooseHook Keep it Fraiche  11882WRX Points: 401Members Posts: 11,882 Titanium Tees
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    And this is good?....Bad?.... Doesn't matter?



    I just looked up Metal injection molding on Wikipedia and I can't seem to figure out why this process is something the average joe should care about or why Cobra would care to market a club that way.



    It is a quite interesting read, but I don't see the benefits to the end user. It isn't stronger or "better" that I can tell. Is it cheaper than casting or forging? Is it quicker? More precise? Will we get less expensive golf clubs?



    Lots of questions but I do find the new technique quite interesting.



    Read and learn:



    https://en.wikipedia...jection_molding




    You'd get a denser finished product than a straight-up casting, and the process produces less waste.



    A couple of my engineering buddies worked for DeWalt for a while. The "powdered" metal process is popular for making things like small meshing gears.
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    Flash SZ 18°, VTS Silver 8x
    Mizuno MP Fli Hi 21°, Recoil 110

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  • ThreeBoxersThreeBoxers  119WRX Points: 35Members Posts: 119 Fairways
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    So is this MIM stuff more durable? Tighter tolerances? Softer feel? I don't quite get it, but as long as they make the full assortment of wedges, I'm a buyer. My original King Cobra wedges are worn out.




    Durability depends on the material used and finish.

    Yes to potentially tighter tolerances. Injection molding is more precise.

    Softer feel is based on material and geometry.



    In the end, MIM is just another type of manufacturing process and Cobra has a business to run. It wouldn't be used unless it provides a benefit to product profitability and quality, which could be reducing manufacturing time, scrap and rework of product that didn't quite turn out to spec.

    Its benefit is mainly for precision components but with this being a bladed style wedge (aka hunk of metal on a stick), I'm skeptical of significant benefits to the CONSUMER (might be better for Cobra's costs) And then marketing will get the hype machine turning. I see there's already a nice big "MIM" stamping, yet I don't see "CAST" stamped on my great feeling RTX2's...
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  • AUTIGER07AUTIGER07 Just lost $1K on a putt  1119WRX Points: 125Handicap: +0.3Members Posts: 1,119 Platinum Tees
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    Nice looking wedge
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    Not in Bryson's or Rickie's bags yet.....probably soon
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  • Rpete33Rpete33  586WRX Points: 72Handicap: 18Members Posts: 586 Golden Tee
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    Anymore info on these?
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  • NokeNoke  2233WRX Points: 286Members Posts: 2,233 Platinum Tees
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    Potentially cheaper for Cobra and they will probably charge more.



    Sounds like a great WIN/WIN for you and me!
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  • Pack7483Pack7483  641WRX Points: 95Members Posts: 641 Golden Tee
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    Any word on a one length version? I like my one length wedges, but would like to see more options and grinds.
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  • AUTIGER07AUTIGER07 Just lost $1K on a putt  1119WRX Points: 125Handicap: +0.3Members Posts: 1,119 Platinum Tees
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    Still interested in these. Was a big fan of the Tour Trusty and would definitely game Cobra wedges again.



    Just please make a 48* Cobra.
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  • Rpete33Rpete33  586WRX Points: 72Handicap: 18Members Posts: 586 Golden Tee
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    AUTIGER07 wrote:
    Still interested in these. Was a big fan of the Tour Trusty and would definitely game Cobra wedges again.



    Just please make a 48* Cobra.




    Don’t think they are coming out with a 48 just 50-60, I need more details as well as I will be replacing my wedges
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    Ugh. Need to make 62 and 64.
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  • DatSliceDoeDatSliceDoe Camerons & Cobras One fairway over 2436WRX Points: 364Handicap: 9ishMembers Posts: 2,436 Platinum Tees
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    Any idea on release date?
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    Any idea on release date?




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  • Rpete33Rpete33  586WRX Points: 72Handicap: 18Members Posts: 586 Golden Tee
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    mtex22 wrote:


    Any idea on release date?




    +1




    I emailed cobra asking about the king black wedge and they also said be on the lookout for the mim wedge being released in March or April
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  • nDroid3nDroid3 USA 113WRX Points: 33Members Posts: 113 Fairways
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    March 1st is what cobra rep told me in an email.
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  • nDroid3nDroid3 USA 113WRX Points: 33Members Posts: 113 Fairways
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    Actually, March 15th is what I got back from the cobra rep.
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    Any one have info on stock shaft offering on this?
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  • mtex22mtex22 San Diego, CA 2266WRX Points: 198Members Posts: 2,266 BST Banned
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    nDroid3 wrote:


    Actually, March 15th is what I got back from the cobra rep.




    Cobra rep told me 4/15 I hope you are right!
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