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we have mats right now, and put plastic tees in the rubber holder on the mat. these tees are just regular plastic tees at our course. bendable.

iam a bit torn right now, I just got my m5 last week, but thinking I will just have to wait for a "v2" then setup an ra to swap them. but who knows when they will correct.

I am thinking at least march

 

So you're not even going to hit it unless there is a v2? If I had an M5 I'd just go ahead and play it like I normally would. If it cracks or chips, so be it. At that point you get the RA. They ship you your new driver, you ship your chipped one back. I don't see a reason to wait to hit these. The cracks aren't rendering these heads useless, so you could even hit it while you are waiting for your replacement.

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I don’t understand why people are waiting for an update before buying this. Recently TM products have been of poor quality and now an unreleased driver already has a major design flaw yet people still want to give their money to this company?

 

I’ve used TM clubs in the past so I’m not a TM hater for the sake of being one. It’s like buying a car that has known relatability issues when there are lots of other options available. I don’t understand this brand loyalty thing.

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I was at my local store today and they checked all of the demo m5's and each one was cracked in the same spot.

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I was at my local store today and they checked Ll of the demo m5's and each one was cracked in the same spot.

 

Not an isolated issue at all......Hope TM fixes this ridiculous design & better yet I hope they replaced everyone who preordered one with the flaw with the V2 head once they get them built.

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Would never happen with a SLDR-C.

 

That is the equivalent of this...

 

 

Bobcat incoming in 3, 2, 1....

 

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When will they learn from the basic of Physics to make a better driver head than fitting pieces of different material together on smooth edge without room ( features) built in for tolerance of flexing ?

It'll keep failing at a high rate ( over 5%) until they figured out when pricing the drivers at such high price point, might as well make a better one with sound design.

But, then again, the design probably is not intended to last decades of use, so you can buy the next better model in a few years, anyway.

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there are 2 demo m5's at my country club that have cracked in this spot. the rep came by this week and this is what we were told. the demo clubs sent to ALL retailers are doing this. i am not sure if the first batch of m5 heads going out to customers have been changed, but the next batch is supposed to be more reinforced in this area. so in other words, TM knows of this problem and is in the works to fix it. what i noticed today is on the 2 m5 demos, if i push down on the carbon, where it cracked, i can feel the material compress down. thus this is causing the brittle carbon to crack.

very disappointing as i did get my m5 already, and looks like i am going to need to get an RA whenever i find out there are"v2" heads out.

 

Out of curiosity, is your club a grass range only or have the demos been striking the adjustable plastic tees on mats?

I’ve read this a lot now, it shouldn’t matter these are common practice surfaces. Whether this happening on the practice mats or the course or the simulator, doesn’t matter. I’m sure TM will figure it out.

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there are 2 demo m5's at my country club that have cracked in this spot. the rep came by this week and this is what we were told. the demo clubs sent to ALL retailers are doing this. i am not sure if the first batch of m5 heads going out to customers have been changed, but the next batch is supposed to be more reinforced in this area. so in other words, TM knows of this problem and is in the works to fix it. what i noticed today is on the 2 m5 demos, if i push down on the carbon, where it cracked, i can feel the material compress down. thus this is causing the brittle carbon to crack.

very disappointing as i did get my m5 already, and looks like i am going to need to get an RA whenever i find out there are"v2" heads out.

 

Out of curiosity, is your club a grass range only or have the demos been striking the adjustable plastic tees on mats?

I’ve read this a lot know, it shouldn’t matter these are common practice surfaces. Whether this happening on the practice mats or the course or the simulator, doesn’t matter. I’m sure TM will figure it out.

 

Oh, I agree completely. I was just curious because he mentioned his country club and I wanted to know if this was happening at grass ranges as well. It’s also not lost on me that Taylormade, more than any OEM, relies on moving their product through big box stores which makes this even more baffling.

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Just saw this post on IG and noticed the piece of carbon is not present on this driver, they must already have the updated head in the works.

 

Looks like it's there to me.

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This cracking problem is happening everywhere and the last thing TM needed. I would not be surprised to see TM on the market again, they have to be hemorrhaging money.

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It’s common knowledge that Taylormade reads this forum. I’m sure they’ve had emergency meetings and addressed the problem at the manufacturing level already.

 

The Question is, what do they do with the heads they’ve already made like this and haven’t shipped yet? The ones that are out already will just come back over the next year as warranty claims. Huge losses to be sure, but I wonder if they will actually alter the completed heads that haven’t shipped yet?

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It’s common knowledge that Taylormade reads this forum. I’m sure they’ve had emergency meetings and addressed the problem at the manufacturing level already.

 

The Question is, what do they do with the heads they’ve already made like this and haven’t shipped yet? The ones that are out already will just come back over the next year as warranty claims. Huge losses to be sure, but I wonder if they will actually alter the completed heads that haven’t shipped yet?

 

They need a slight redesign to where the CF is bonding inside a frame of titanium just like all of their other drivers. It shouldn't take too much effort or R&D, then the head will need to go through USGA certification.

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I was at a local store (Carl’s Golfland in Plymouth, MI), and I looked at the M5 demos they had out (probably about 8 heads), and I didn’t see any that were cracked in either spot. They also didn’t look like they’d been hit much yet. The demos there do take a beating, generally. They let you take out 3 clubs at a time and I really wanted to try the Epic Flash SZ, F9, and TS3, and those clubs all had mat scuffs on the soles and sky marks on the crown, and the TM clubs didn’t look like they’d been beaten up too much yet. They do use rubber tees there, FWIW.

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How was this not discovered and resolved during the initial prototype testing lol

Thats the million dollar question, should be addressed too. They have upset loyal Customers. I for one would NEVER purchase this driver with known issues. Why would you??

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I checked out a demo head today. While it was not broken yet, it had some chips taken out in that area. Seems very plastic like.

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It's not the contact with the tee , not even so with the contact to the turf.

The design needs to allow the pieces to flex. Traditional bonding method will fail and fail again, anyone has the basic knowledge should know that. It's not how strong those pieces could bond together, the solution is to allow those pieces flex then return to shape. Epoxy or welding along the smooth lines will not work.

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I’m sure TaylorMade will make it right for those with the issue. If I had any issues with clubs in the past, they always sorted me out.

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The M3 is known to have this problem with the carbon on the bottom, not surprising if the m5 has similar issues.

 

The only issues I'm aware of with the sole of the M3 are incidents where the player dropped an iron/wedge into the bag and the club head struck the sole of the driver wrong. Other than that, there is no known problem with the carbon sole of the M3.

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On the road in Michigan and stopped at Miles of Golf in Ann Arbor, cool shop! They already have two cracked heads behind the counter. Not good...

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