Phil Mickelson - WITB 2019

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  • JonnyKrasnodarJonnyKrasnodar Members  1908WRX Points: 183Posts: 1,908 Platinum Tees
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    Really think the flash colour scheme is a bust this year. The standbag and assorted headcovers look really insipid and dated.



    I do like the Epic 4 iron though. Don't think they got enough love due to the ridiculous price point. If Phil used long irons more on the tee box he found have had a few more wins in my opinion. He generally strikes his long irons well .
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  • UnderPar18UnderPar18 Previously Ecsugolf1 Members  6019WRX Points: 296Handicap: 2Posts: 6,019 Titanium Tees
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    UnderPar18 wrote:



    Hi Toe > PM grind




    Not even close. Hi-toe is a poor mans PM grind.




    Or you both can learn to chip properly and buy a Vokey (LOL just messing around with you guys!!)




    LOL!! Replacing my current 60 is going to be a hi toe 60-ATV or an SM7 60-12D. The raw is just so dang expensive, but beautiful.



    I can’t get passed the offset in the PM grind. Not my cup of tea. Doesn’t fit my eye when I open it up. Guess that’s why I’m sitting at home and Phil is out there making millions!




    Yup same. If they made the mods to it and kept the offset like the original one it would be in the bag. But I couldn’t get past the offset either.
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    Lemonde wrote:




    Hi Toe > PM grind




    Eye 2 > PM Grind > Hi-Toe




    Alien > Eye 2 > PM Grind > Hi-Toe




    Should have stopped at Eye 2....
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  • dhen9dhen9 Members  860WRX Points: 178Posts: 860 Golden Tee
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    Seems to be 2 or more shafts of offset on that putter. No wonder he's so inside to square.
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  • GSDriverGSDriver Members  890WRX Points: 181Handicap: 4Posts: 890 Golden Tee
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    Hi Toe > PM grind




    Not even close. Hi-toe is a poor mans PM grind.




    Indeed PM Grind was out before HiToe knockoff was released.
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    Rogue 4 Wood Evenflow 75 Blue
    Epic Hybrids 3/4/5
    Apex Pro 6-P Recoil 110 F4
    MD Slate Forged 52
    PM Grind 2.0 Slate 58/64
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    Really think the flash colour scheme is a bust this year. The standbag and assorted headcovers look really insipid and dated.



    I do like the Epic 4 iron though. Don't think they got enough love due to the ridiculous price point. If Phil used long irons more on the tee box he found have had a few more wins in my opinion. He generally strikes his long irons well .


    I’d disagree with you , while shorter hitters can make a career , strokes gained off the tee has basically taught us all that we need to know about us using driver . Just bombs away
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    Really think the flash colour scheme is a bust this year. The standbag and assorted headcovers look really insipid and dated.



    I do like the Epic 4 iron though. Don't think they got enough love due to the ridiculous price point. If Phil used long irons more on the tee box he found have had a few more wins in my opinion. He generally strikes his long irons well .


    I’d disagree with you , while shorter hitters can make a career , strokes gained off the tee has basically taught us all that we need to know about us using driver . Just bombs away




    That's fair enough and distance off the tee is everything. Just think he could have been the exception to the rule with the rest of his game.
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    Really think the flash colour scheme is a bust this year. The standbag and assorted headcovers look really insipid and dated.



    I do like the Epic 4 iron though. Don't think they got enough love due to the ridiculous price point. If Phil used long irons more on the tee box he found have had a few more wins in my opinion. He generally strikes his long irons well .


    I’d disagree with you , while shorter hitters can make a career , strokes gained off the tee has basically taught us all that we need to know about us using driver . Just bombs away




    That's fair enough and distance off the tee is everything. Just think he could have been the exception to the rule with the rest of his game.


    Problem being a 440 yard hole which is close to driver 9 -driver wedge would suddenly become a 240 (3iron ) 200 yard 6 iron . Good luck with proximity being another guys flighted wedge or 9 iron all day
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  • JonnyKrasnodarJonnyKrasnodar Members  1908WRX Points: 183Posts: 1,908 Platinum Tees
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    I get your point for sure. Checked the status and less than half hit the green from 200 yards and out. Over the course of a hole you may not see big differences but over 18 and then full tournaments you start seeing variance in scores.



    He'd end up feeling the pressure of trying to keep up and start spraying tee shots.



    Still don't like the staff bag colours this year though.
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  • grm24grm24 Western PAMembers  4481WRX Points: 1,513Posts: 4,481 Titanium Tees
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    Hi Toe > PM grind




    Eye 2 > PM Grind > Hi-Toe
    /thread
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    grm24 wrote:




    Hi Toe > PM grind




    Eye 2 > PM Grind > Hi-Toe
    /thread




    Huh?
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  • grm24grm24 Western PAMembers  4481WRX Points: 1,513Posts: 4,481 Titanium Tees
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    grm24 wrote:




    Hi Toe > PM grind




    Eye 2 > PM Grind > Hi-Toe
    /thread




    Huh?
    Means close thread. It's a compliment to your post.
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    Admittedly I haven't held the PM Grind 2.0 in my hand and I've only seen pictures, but that offset looks absurd. I enjoyed the shape of the original PM Grind but I felt like the bounce was too much and I had trouble flighting the wedges down. Supposedly the 2.0's have a different grind and it's easier to flight shots, so we will see.
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  • huskerpower_105huskerpower_105 Members  411WRX Points: 79Posts: 411 Greens
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    Couldn’t find anything searching but has anyone noticed Phil is back to the rogue driver? This was captured on 16 tee today at Pebble (round 3).
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    Couldn't find anything searching but has anyone noticed Phil is back to the rogue driver? This was captured on 16 tee today at Pebble (round 3).




    yea i just saw that definitely playing a rogue.
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    Watching Phil on 18, looks like he's playing the ERC ball
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  • lc1342lc1342 Members  319WRX Points: 60Handicap: 12Posts: 319 Greens
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    Just said he went back to the old driver and will use it until after Augusta.
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    lc1342 wrote:


    Just said he went back to the old driver and will use it until after Augusta.




    And went back to driving it long and online. Good call Phil. That setup is working
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  • norge5norge5 Members  1517WRX Points: 73Posts: 1,517 Platinum Tees
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    So it's not a 9 degree +2? I thought somebody said Phil was finally going with more loft, no?
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  • Z1ggy16Z1ggy16 Members  9633WRX Points: 1,596Posts: 9,633 Titanium Tees
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    Noticed Phil puts the KBS 125's in the wedges, too. Are these the same flex but 8i shafts or does he play them straight in? I'm really curious to try the PM grind wedge but I'm not so sure how that huge amount of offset.
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  • Rpete33Rpete33 Members  639WRX Points: 84Handicap: 10Posts: 639 Golden Tee
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    Z1ggy16 wrote:
    Noticed Phil puts the KBS 125's in the wedges, too. Are these the same flex but 8i shafts or does he play them straight in? I'm really curious to try the PM grind wedge but I'm not so sure how that huge amount of offset.




    More questions about his wedges, does anyone know what the loft of his pitching wedge is? If it’s a true apex MB PW it’s 47 and his next wedge is 56? Seems like a huge gap
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    Rpete33 wrote:

    Z1ggy16 wrote:
    Noticed Phil puts the KBS 125's in the wedges, too. Are these the same flex but 8i shafts or does he play them straight in? I'm really curious to try the PM grind wedge but I'm not so sure how that huge amount of offset.




    More questions about his wedges, does anyone know what the loft of his pitching wedge is? If it’s a true apex MB PW it’s 47 and his next wedge is 56? Seems like a huge gap




    If you look through last year's WITB, you'll notice the 56 is bent strong to 53 degrees (and stamped as such). I suspect he's playing the same lofts in this new 2.0 version
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    Nice win - I hope he can continue the momentum to the majors.
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    scsc wrote:

    Rpete33 wrote:

    Z1ggy16 wrote:
    Noticed Phil puts the KBS 125's in the wedges, too. Are these the same flex but 8i shafts or does he play them straight in? I'm really curious to try the PM grind wedge but I'm not so sure how that huge amount of offset.




    More questions about his wedges, does anyone know what the loft of his pitching wedge is? If it’s a true apex MB PW it’s 47 and his next wedge is 56? Seems like a huge gap




    If you look through last year's WITB, you'll notice the 56 is bent strong to 53 degrees (and stamped as such). I suspect he's playing the same lofts in this new 2.0 version


    Yeah I thought I remember him saying his sand wedge is pent strong 2 or 3 degrees, then the 64 is bent a little bit weak as well.
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    Z1ggy16 wrote:


    Noticed Phil puts the KBS 125's in the wedges, too. Are these the same flex but 8i shafts or does he play them straight in? I'm really curious to try the PM grind wedge but I'm not so sure how that huge amount of offset.




    I play the original 64*. I don't notice the offset, I tried the 56* but I couldn't get used to the higher cg. I love the look of the big dinner plate out of traps and around the greens. With the 64 and a high spin ball I can usually throw it all the way to the flag and have it stop which is nice.



    Offset doesn't bother me though in any clubs, so your mileage may vary.
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    I guess the Rogue SZ will be in Phil’s bag for awhile...
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    Looks like the Stroke Lab is back in the bag this week. Or at least it wasn't the Versa. I couldn't get a good look at what it was.
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    adh2k1 wrote:
    Looks like the Stroke Lab is back in the bag this week. Or at least it wasn't the Versa. I couldn't get a good look at what it was.
    Looks like a Toulon.
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    dalton044 wrote:

    adh2k1 wrote:
    Looks like the Stroke Lab is back in the bag this week. Or at least it wasn't the Versa. I couldn't get a good look at what it was.
    Looks like a Toulon.




    Definitely a milled putter. Doesn't appear to have diamond milling.
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    Single diamond Epic Flash Sub in the bag this week. So much for sticking with the Rogue through the Masters!
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