Phil Mickelson - WITB 2019

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  • JonnyKrasnodarJonnyKrasnodar  1897WRX Points: 176Members Posts: 1,897 Platinum Tees
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    Really think the flash colour scheme is a bust this year. The standbag and assorted headcovers look really insipid and dated.



    I do like the Epic 4 iron though. Don't think they got enough love due to the ridiculous price point. If Phil used long irons more on the tee box he found have had a few more wins in my opinion. He generally strikes his long irons well .
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  • UnderPar18UnderPar18 Previously Ecsugolf1  5961WRX Points: 280Handicap: 2Members Posts: 5,961 Titanium Tees
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    UnderPar18 wrote:



    Hi Toe > PM grind




    Not even close. Hi-toe is a poor mans PM grind.




    Or you both can learn to chip properly and buy a Vokey (LOL just messing around with you guys!!)




    LOL!! Replacing my current 60 is going to be a hi toe 60-ATV or an SM7 60-12D. The raw is just so dang expensive, but beautiful.



    I can’t get passed the offset in the PM grind. Not my cup of tea. Doesn’t fit my eye when I open it up. Guess that’s why I’m sitting at home and Phil is out there making millions!




    Yup same. If they made the mods to it and kept the offset like the original one it would be in the bag. But I couldn’t get past the offset either.
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  • TheMoneyShotTheMoneyShot ***FIGJAM/Twirl of Doom***  31923WRX Points: 1,706Members Posts: 31,923 Titanium Tees
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    Lemonde wrote:




    Hi Toe > PM grind




    Eye 2 > PM Grind > Hi-Toe




    Alien > Eye 2 > PM Grind > Hi-Toe




    Should have stopped at Eye 2....
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  • dhen9dhen9  785WRX Points: 152Members Posts: 785 Golden Tee
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    Seems to be 2 or more shafts of offset on that putter. No wonder he's so inside to square.
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  • GSDriverGSDriver  791WRX Points: 155Handicap: 4Members Posts: 791 Golden Tee
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    Hi Toe > PM grind




    Not even close. Hi-toe is a poor mans PM grind.




    Indeed PM Grind was out before HiToe knockoff was released.
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    Epic Speeder 661
    Rogue 4 Wood Evenflow 75 Blue
    Epic Hybrids 3/4/5
    Apex Pro 6-P Recoil 110 F4
    MD Slate Forged 52
    PM Grind 56/60
    Odyssey EXO Stroke Lab 7 Mini
    All grips except putter are Iomic Sticky 2.3
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    Really think the flash colour scheme is a bust this year. The standbag and assorted headcovers look really insipid and dated.



    I do like the Epic 4 iron though. Don't think they got enough love due to the ridiculous price point. If Phil used long irons more on the tee box he found have had a few more wins in my opinion. He generally strikes his long irons well .


    I’d disagree with you , while shorter hitters can make a career , strokes gained off the tee has basically taught us all that we need to know about us using driver . Just bombs away
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  • JonnyKrasnodarJonnyKrasnodar  1897WRX Points: 176Members Posts: 1,897 Platinum Tees
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    Really think the flash colour scheme is a bust this year. The standbag and assorted headcovers look really insipid and dated.



    I do like the Epic 4 iron though. Don't think they got enough love due to the ridiculous price point. If Phil used long irons more on the tee box he found have had a few more wins in my opinion. He generally strikes his long irons well .


    I’d disagree with you , while shorter hitters can make a career , strokes gained off the tee has basically taught us all that we need to know about us using driver . Just bombs away




    That's fair enough and distance off the tee is everything. Just think he could have been the exception to the rule with the rest of his game.
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  • Aaronwilson_95Aaronwilson_95  914WRX Points: 125Members Posts: 914 Golden Tee
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    Really think the flash colour scheme is a bust this year. The standbag and assorted headcovers look really insipid and dated.



    I do like the Epic 4 iron though. Don't think they got enough love due to the ridiculous price point. If Phil used long irons more on the tee box he found have had a few more wins in my opinion. He generally strikes his long irons well .


    I’d disagree with you , while shorter hitters can make a career , strokes gained off the tee has basically taught us all that we need to know about us using driver . Just bombs away




    That's fair enough and distance off the tee is everything. Just think he could have been the exception to the rule with the rest of his game.


    Problem being a 440 yard hole which is close to driver 9 -driver wedge would suddenly become a 240 (3iron ) 200 yard 6 iron . Good luck with proximity being another guys flighted wedge or 9 iron all day
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  • JonnyKrasnodarJonnyKrasnodar  1897WRX Points: 176Members Posts: 1,897 Platinum Tees
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    I get your point for sure. Checked the status and less than half hit the green from 200 yards and out. Over the course of a hole you may not see big differences but over 18 and then full tournaments you start seeing variance in scores.



    He'd end up feeling the pressure of trying to keep up and start spraying tee shots.



    Still don't like the staff bag colours this year though.
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  • grm24grm24 Western PA 4175WRX Points: 1,313Members Posts: 4,175 Titanium Tees
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    Hi Toe > PM grind




    Eye 2 > PM Grind > Hi-Toe
    /thread
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  • TheMoneyShotTheMoneyShot ***FIGJAM/Twirl of Doom***  31923WRX Points: 1,706Members Posts: 31,923 Titanium Tees
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    grm24 wrote:




    Hi Toe > PM grind




    Eye 2 > PM Grind > Hi-Toe
    /thread




    Huh?
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  • grm24grm24 Western PA 4175WRX Points: 1,313Members Posts: 4,175 Titanium Tees
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    grm24 wrote:




    Hi Toe > PM grind




    Eye 2 > PM Grind > Hi-Toe
    /thread




    Huh?
    Means close thread. It's a compliment to your post.
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  • TitletownTitletown  389WRX Points: 231Members Posts: 389 Greens
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    Admittedly I haven't held the PM Grind 2.0 in my hand and I've only seen pictures, but that offset looks absurd. I enjoyed the shape of the original PM Grind but I felt like the bounce was too much and I had trouble flighting the wedges down. Supposedly the 2.0's have a different grind and it's easier to flight shots, so we will see.
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    Driver: Callaway Mavrik (9°) / Tour AD-DI

    Fairway: Callaway Mavrik (16.5°) / Tour AD-DI

    Hybrid: Callaway Apex '19 (20°) / Tour AD-DI

    Irons: Callaway X-Forged (4i-9i) / KBS Tour V

    Wedges: Callaway MD4 (46.10 - 50.10 - 54.08 - 58.08) / KBS Tour V

    Putter: Odyssey Stroke Lab Ten S

    Ball: Chrome Soft X Triple Track

  • huskerpower_105huskerpower_105  411WRX Points: 79Members Posts: 411 Greens
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    Couldn’t find anything searching but has anyone noticed Phil is back to the rogue driver? This was captured on 16 tee today at Pebble (round 3).
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    Callaway Epic Flash 10.5* | Aldila 2KXV Blue 60-S
    Callaway Epic Flash SZ 15* | Mitsubishi Tensei AV Blue 70 Stiff
    Callaway Epic Flash SZ 18* | Mitsubishi Tensei AV Blue 70 Stiff
    Callaway Apex Hybrid ‘19 20* | Project X Even Flow Blue 85 Stiff
    Callaway Apex ‘19 4-Iron | True Temper Elevate Tour Stiff
    Callaway Apex Pro ‘19 5-9 | True Temper Elevate Tour Stiff
    Callaway MackDaddy 4 Chrome 48*, 54*, 60* | True Temper Elevate Tour Stiff
    Odyssey EXO Stroke Lab Indianapolis | 33.75"
    Callaway ChromeSoft X “MURPH”
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    Couldn't find anything searching but has anyone noticed Phil is back to the rogue driver? This was captured on 16 tee today at Pebble (round 3).




    yea i just saw that definitely playing a rogue.
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  • sdremsdrem  498WRX Points: 0Members Posts: 498
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    Watching Phil on 18, looks like he's playing the ERC ball
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    TM M1 , Matrix White Tie
    Tour Edge Exotics EX8 14*
    TEE EX8 16.5*, Rogue 60
    Callaway Steelhead XR 3-AW, Recoil 760
    Cal. Mack Daddy 2 54* ,Recoil 95
    Cal. MD PM 58*, Recoil 95
    Rife Bellevue, SNSR Red 104
    Super Stroke S-tech grips
    Wilson Duo-U
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  • lc1342lc1342  314WRX Points: 53Handicap: 12Members Posts: 314 Greens
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    Just said he went back to the old driver and will use it until after Augusta.
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    lc1342 wrote:


    Just said he went back to the old driver and will use it until after Augusta.




    And went back to driving it long and online. Good call Phil. That setup is working
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    TM SIM max 10.8 Fuji Ventus red 6x 
    Ping G410 15.5* Graphite Design ADDI 8x
    Ping G410 21* ADDI 105x 
    Ping Blueprint  3- PW   Modus 130X 
    Ping Glide Forged  54 60 s400
    Cameron GSS 1.5 009. Sound slot,  tungsten weights. 


  • norge5norge5  1500WRX Points: 63Members Posts: 1,500 Platinum Tees
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    So it's not a 9 degree +2? I thought somebody said Phil was finally going with more loft, no?
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  • Z1ggy16Z1ggy16  9037WRX Points: 1,307Members Posts: 9,037 Titanium Tees
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    Noticed Phil puts the KBS 125's in the wedges, too. Are these the same flex but 8i shafts or does he play them straight in? I'm really curious to try the PM grind wedge but I'm not so sure how that huge amount of offset.
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    D - Epic SZ | Tour Z Xtreme 465
    3w - '16 Tour Issue M1 (16.5*) | Diamana B 70
    5w - '17 M1 | Tensei Pro Blue 70
    4h - 818H1 | Tensei Pro White 90
    Irons - P760 5-PW | Modus 120
    GW - Glide 3.0 50/12 | S400 Tour Issue
    SW - Glide 3.0 54/12| S400 Tour Issue
    LW - Glide 3.0 58/10 | S400 Tour Issue
    P - Odyssey Big 7 Arm Lock or Custom EVNROLL ER5
    Ball - Bridgestone BXS



  • Rpete33Rpete33  587WRX Points: 73Handicap: 18Members Posts: 587 Golden Tee
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    Z1ggy16 wrote:
    Noticed Phil puts the KBS 125's in the wedges, too. Are these the same flex but 8i shafts or does he play them straight in? I'm really curious to try the PM grind wedge but I'm not so sure how that huge amount of offset.




    More questions about his wedges, does anyone know what the loft of his pitching wedge is? If it’s a true apex MB PW it’s 47 and his next wedge is 56? Seems like a huge gap
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  • scscscsc  128WRX Points: 72Members Posts: 128 Fairways
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    Rpete33 wrote:

    Z1ggy16 wrote:
    Noticed Phil puts the KBS 125's in the wedges, too. Are these the same flex but 8i shafts or does he play them straight in? I'm really curious to try the PM grind wedge but I'm not so sure how that huge amount of offset.




    More questions about his wedges, does anyone know what the loft of his pitching wedge is? If it’s a true apex MB PW it’s 47 and his next wedge is 56? Seems like a huge gap




    If you look through last year's WITB, you'll notice the 56 is bent strong to 53 degrees (and stamped as such). I suspect he's playing the same lofts in this new 2.0 version
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    2019 WITB

    Ping G400 LST, Nventix Golf Nunchuk
    Cobra King LTD 3 wood, Graphite Design AD-GP XX
    TM UDI @ 16 degrees, Matrix HM3 105 ****
    Cobra King Utility 18.5 degree, Matrix HM3 ****
    Cobra Forged Tec Black, 5-PW, DG X7
    Cobra King Wedges: 50, 54, 58, 62 DG X7
    TM Juno
    Srixon XV
  • newportbeachnewportbeach  3653WRX Points: 255Members Posts: 3,653 Titanium Tees
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    Nice win - I hope he can continue the momentum to the majors.
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    We are not now that strength which in old days
    Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are;
    One equal temper of heroic hearts,
    Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
    To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
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  • Z1ggy16Z1ggy16  9037WRX Points: 1,307Members Posts: 9,037 Titanium Tees
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    scsc wrote:

    Rpete33 wrote:

    Z1ggy16 wrote:
    Noticed Phil puts the KBS 125's in the wedges, too. Are these the same flex but 8i shafts or does he play them straight in? I'm really curious to try the PM grind wedge but I'm not so sure how that huge amount of offset.




    More questions about his wedges, does anyone know what the loft of his pitching wedge is? If it’s a true apex MB PW it’s 47 and his next wedge is 56? Seems like a huge gap




    If you look through last year's WITB, you'll notice the 56 is bent strong to 53 degrees (and stamped as such). I suspect he's playing the same lofts in this new 2.0 version


    Yeah I thought I remember him saying his sand wedge is pent strong 2 or 3 degrees, then the 64 is bent a little bit weak as well.
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    D - Epic SZ | Tour Z Xtreme 465
    3w - '16 Tour Issue M1 (16.5*) | Diamana B 70
    5w - '17 M1 | Tensei Pro Blue 70
    4h - 818H1 | Tensei Pro White 90
    Irons - P760 5-PW | Modus 120
    GW - Glide 3.0 50/12 | S400 Tour Issue
    SW - Glide 3.0 54/12| S400 Tour Issue
    LW - Glide 3.0 58/10 | S400 Tour Issue
    P - Odyssey Big 7 Arm Lock or Custom EVNROLL ER5
    Ball - Bridgestone BXS



  • BohsauceyBohsaucey  120WRX Points: 50Handicap: +1Members Posts: 120 Fairways
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    Z1ggy16 wrote:


    Noticed Phil puts the KBS 125's in the wedges, too. Are these the same flex but 8i shafts or does he play them straight in? I'm really curious to try the PM grind wedge but I'm not so sure how that huge amount of offset.




    I play the original 64*. I don't notice the offset, I tried the 56* but I couldn't get used to the higher cg. I love the look of the big dinner plate out of traps and around the greens. With the 64 and a high spin ball I can usually throw it all the way to the flag and have it stop which is nice.



    Offset doesn't bother me though in any clubs, so your mileage may vary.
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    PING - G400
    TourEdge - XCG3 3w
    Nike - VRS Covert 5w
    PING - G30 7w
    Callaway - Apex UT 21
    PING - G400 6-PW
    Callaway - 54,60 MD4
    Callaway - PM 64
    Bettinardi - BB1
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    I guess the Rogue SZ will be in Phil’s bag for awhile...
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  • adh2k1adh2k1 Houghton, MI 296WRX Points: 56Handicap: 2Members Posts: 296 Greens
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    Looks like the Stroke Lab is back in the bag this week. Or at least it wasn't the Versa. I couldn't get a good look at what it was.
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    Callaway Epic Flash SZ 
    Callaway xHot 3Deep
    Cleveland Mashie 20.5
    Cleveland Hibore 22
    Callaway Apex Pro 16 5-P
    Ping Glide 2.0 56 ES
    Callaway PM Grind 64
    Ping G5i Craz-e h
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    adh2k1 wrote:
    Looks like the Stroke Lab is back in the bag this week. Or at least it wasn't the Versa. I couldn't get a good look at what it was.
    Looks like a Toulon.
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    -G400 LST 10* AD TP 6s
    -Rouge SZ Tensei Pro Orange 70s
    -818H2 19* Speeder 8.8s 
    -MP-18 MMC 4-PW PX LZ 6.0
    -SM7 50* 54* 58* PX LZ 6.0
    -Ping Anser Milled 5

  • KonkliferKonklifer Thinkin' of a master plan...  8024WRX Points: 586Members Posts: 8,024 Titanium Tees
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    dalton044 wrote:

    adh2k1 wrote:
    Looks like the Stroke Lab is back in the bag this week. Or at least it wasn't the Versa. I couldn't get a good look at what it was.
    Looks like a Toulon.




    Definitely a milled putter. Doesn't appear to have diamond milling.
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    PING G400 Max 10.5° (-)
    (fw tbd)
    PING G410 19° (F-)
    PING i25 22°, 26°
    Callaway XHP 6-AW
    PING Glide 2.0 Stealth, 54° SS, 58° ES
    PING Scottsdale TR B60, 34.5"
    Srixon Z-Star Yellow
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  • leftygolfer15leftygolfer15  1369WRX Points: 170Members Posts: 1,369 Platinum Tees
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    Single diamond Epic Flash Sub in the bag this week. So much for sticking with the Rogue through the Masters!
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